Carrying Hardware Wallets When Traveling Internationally

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Quote from: Zanab247 on August 09, 2022, 12:50:09 PM

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I don't think you need to carry a hardware wallet to travel. When you take an international trip, you carry your laptop and they don't ask you about bitcoin. Now you just need a smartphone to travel unrestricted and put your wallet in your cell phone, which is very simple.

Yes, it will help you to avoid so many negative things in the airport, because there are some countries who are not yet legalized Bitcoin in their countries which they will not like to see such things in someone laptop at the moment. Moving with your phone when embark on international trip is more comfortable than laptop because it will be very hard for the airport officials to see your wallet and the amount of coins inside your wallet without you telling them were your wallet is in your smartphone.

One of the benefits when you have crypto into your HW or even on your own mobile phone but cant we make out some questions or realizations
that we've been doing all of this for a while now considering that credit/debit cards had already long time existed? Yes, it does have limitations though not compared when you are
travelling but having those funds stored which involved millions (if you have) without putting yourself in risk because no one really knows that you do own or
bringing up that big amount. It would really be just common sense which you could really tell the difference among the two.

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I don't think you need to carry a hardware wallet to travel. When you take an international trip, you carry your laptop and they don't ask you about bitcoin. Now you just need a smartphone to travel unrestricted and put your wallet in your cell phone, which is very simple.

Yes, it will help you to avoid so many negative things in the airport, because there are some countries who are not yet legalized Bitcoin in their countries which they will not like to see such things in someone laptop at the moment. Moving with your phone when embark on international trip is more comfortable than laptop because it will be very hard for the airport officials to see your wallet and the amount of coins inside your wallet without you telling them were your wallet is in your smartphone.

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How are most of you traveling then if you daytrade or do transactions then? I mean you have to bring your hardware wallet with you... but what about your seed?

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I don't think you need to carry a hardware wallet to travel. When you take an international trip, you carry your laptop and they don't ask you about bitcoin. Now you just need a smartphone to travel unrestricted and put your wallet in your cell phone, which is very simple.

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A new bill has been passed under the title "‘Combating Money Laundering, Terrorist Financing, and Counterfeiting Act of 2017’"

If this bill becomes a law, you will have to declare the cryptos while travelling IN and OUT of united states, else all cryptos could be seized.

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Bitcoin and digital money values are variable assets. We all know. These assets are exhibited in stock markets. Bitcoin and digital money holders, if they have invested in the past, are now very lucky.
When you have a small number of assets, you can keep your assets in your online wallets. However, if the number of assets you have or the value of them increases, it is not safe in your online wallets. Blockchain wallets are safe. We can not argue this. If you protect the crypt, it's almost impossible to hack. But fraudsters will not try to break your ciphers. It tries to take over your cipher.
Now portable wallets are very popular. I think this should happen. Because it is safer to carry assets that are in portable electronic wallets instead of online ones.
There is another problem. Where should we keep these wallets. For if you lose, you will be lost in your possessions.

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Quote from: jerry0 on December 14, 2017, 11:01:02 AM

Are there many of you who travel internationally? If you do, obviously you have your laptop as well for many people. But i assume most of you travel with your nano ledger or trezor as well? If so, i assume you don't have to declare you have over 10k on you right since its not a currency but an asset. But also you aren't carrying bitcoin because the nano ledger is basically like your bank card which has money in it? Has anyone been asked about it when flying internationally?

Then again if you have a bitcoin wallet on your computer such as electrum or any similar ones, wouldn't that be the same thing as a nano ledger or trezor? But the thing is the nano ledger looks like a keychain or usb but the trezor looks a bit different? And also when you carry it, do you generally carry it as is or you put it in a box?

good point. I don't think you need to declare anything because you don't have any money with you even when cryptocurrencies would be considered as money. Ledger only stores your private keys, however the actual funds are always stored in blockchain.

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When I travel very far my hardware wallet and my laptop are two things I never forget to carry along with me as I want to be able to use my bitcoins at every opportunity.

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I always travel with my Ledger Nano S and Laptop. You made an interesting point and I didnt declare the values. It is worth thinking of whether there is a need to declare.
I will think Bitcoin to be the same as gold chain, it has a value in fiat but not yet converted to fiat. I have been checked before when traveling out of my country with my bitcoin.

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absolutely there is no need to declare it because we assume it as a credit card and even if you have millions deposited there you don`t have to declare it an d there is not any rule about it.

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I personally dont travel a lot and when I do it I dont take any kind of bitcoin wallet with me. I dont see a reason why transporting bitcoin through a nano ledger/ trezor would cause you any problem since there are no specific laws saying this is restricted or not. And anyway I dont think many security guys from the airport knows about bitcoin.

I suggest all of you to check the laws of the airports and governments very carefully and see if they specify anything about transporting any kind of virtual money or I any other thing that could be related with bitcoin. You never know when a security guy could stop you,then confiscated you bitcoins. You can also ask at the airport if what you are doing if ok but I doubt they would have an answer because I dont think they know what bitcoin is so it will be ok.

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Quote from: jerry0 on December 14, 2017, 11:01:02 AM

Are there many of you who travel internationally? If you do, obviously you have your laptop as well for many people. But i assume most of you travel with your nano ledger or trezor as well? If so, i assume you don't have to declare you have over 10k on you right since its not a currency but an asset. But also you aren't carrying bitcoin because the nano ledger is basically like your bank card which has money in it? Has anyone been asked about it when flying internationally?

I do not usually travel with my hardware wallet,but i carry my laptop with me all the time and i do have a few coins in my electrum wallet but there is no need for you to inform the authorities that you are holding any digital coins in the first place and when in the future if they ask and if i am going to say no,how on earth are they going to find out,unless i say other wise,so i do not think it will be a big deal and that is the beauty of bitcoin. Wink

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First, why the heck you are carrying around your HW wallet for traveling? I think it's too risky.
Why not just setup a desktop wallet or trusted online wallet and spare some BTC/ crypto over there for daily transaction that you might need a long the way? I think that will be more feasible.
Regarding (immigration) declaration, I think they never asked about that if you not really mention anything related to it. It's like normal account bank I think. How many that you have over there, as long as it's not cash, they never care.

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Watch for Homeland Security, they aren't shady, just incompetent. Don't even try to explain it to them, because they'll just assume its a threat and might possibly confiscate it. Yes, abuse of power in the name of security.

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Declaring your woth when entering some countries like the USA and the Netherlands, failure to which and its discovered that inaccurate information was offered could lead to consequences that might not be friendly

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if quite simply Bitcoin is a digital currency that has increased recently by 8 times

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There is no need to declare anything in my point of view unless you are carrying big amount of cash. Having coins in your wallet is like having money in your bank account and since there is no need for you to declare money in your account then you don't need to declare how much is the value of coins in your wallet. Besides, if the customs inspect your things, most likely they would not be able to recognize your hardware wallet since the shape is similar to USB so they would assume that it is just a USB. Anyway, when I travel internationally, a phone with coins will do for me in case I will be short with cash.

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High fees = low BTC price

The price of the Nano S has doubled in the last few months so they must be following the
BTC miners and keeping a low supply in order to push the price up.

Don't worry if you get mugged abroad, they only wanted the Nano and not your coins
held on it

Might get one myself when they are under $30 but just now it's like buying special
Tulip soil that will be dirt cheap again after a major blow-out

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Quote from: AGD on December 14, 2017, 05:17:46 PM

Send your wallet.dat by email. This way you don't need to carry anything

This is obviously the safest option. But the problem is interesting from a theoretical point of view. As Bitcoins are not recognized as money, they should not be allowed to harass you. But I can imagine that in the USA you could get trouble all the same.

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