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Topic: Casascius coins pledge for European Bitcoin Conference (Read 3420 times)

legendary
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Revolutionizing Brokerage of Personal Data
I felt I had sufficiently made clear in the thread that the ability to provide a bulk discount applied specifically to the 25 BTC coins, no discount was possible on 1BTC coins.
I'm sorry - must have been a misunderstanding. I somehow read the "discount extends to the 25BTC coins" as to not excluding the 1 BTC coins but re-reading it you're right of course.

What I had in mind was that some enterprising person who perhaps already had a vendor table would pick up 50 or 100 or 200 of the 25 BTC coins at a discount, and make a nice little profit selling them.
Well, that's something which would better be arranged directly with the organizer of the event instead of over a forum thread. But I'm sure Mitchell already had enough on his plate Wink

If anyone in the US is going, I can reliably overnight something for Tuesday delivery to anyone in the US who might be going to the conference.  But for orders like 50-100 1BTC coins... may as well just order them like normal.  I can mail up to 2kg for USD $13.25 anywhere in the world.
If somebody could do that it would be great of course, but given the tight schedule I think our chances are slim.

No worries though - shipping is not that expensive - I think we're probably all best off ordering separately (or teaming up with some of your local Bitcoin group).
vip
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The Casascius 1oz 10BTC Silver Round (w/ Gold B)
I did get the message on my iphone, sorry I did not respond, I should have later when I was back at a computer.

However, I felt I had sufficiently made clear in the thread that the ability to provide a bulk discount applied specifically to the 25 BTC coins, no discount was possible on 1BTC coins.  The e-mail I received was to ask if there could be a discount on 52 1BTC coins and 2 25 BTC coins, and 20 non-denominated bars.  I regularly get single orders larger than this (except perhaps for the 20 bars, which happens but is much less frequent as a single order) and this wasn't what I had in mind as being a bulk order.

What I had in mind was that some enterprising person who perhaps already had a vendor table would pick up 50 or 100 or 200 of the 25 BTC coins at a discount, and make a nice little profit selling them.

If anyone in the US is going, I can reliably overnight something for Tuesday delivery to anyone in the US who might be going to the conference.  But for orders like 50-100 1BTC coins... may as well just order them like normal.  I can mail up to 2kg for USD $13.25 anywhere in the world.

Even then, unless I did express air shipping (e.g. DHL), a regular mailing to Prague wouldn't make it reliably in any amount of time.  Some of my international orders arrive in 4 days, I have had one take 34, with 10-11 days being the norm.  If I were to use DHL right now, it would probably still be in time for the conference if sending all the way to Prague.
legendary
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It doesn't seem reasonable to expect they would arrive on time even with casascius' prompt shipping.

So someone would _have_ to bring them, right?
True, I sent him a mail 4 days ago, asking him if he thinks he could still ship on time. I guess the answer is no Sad

It'd really be nice to have coins at the conference, especially many 1 BTC coins. I'm sure everyone will want at least one!
+1
donator
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I briefly talked to genjix on IRC and sent a mail to casascius with the estimated demand (partly with the information from this thread) and asked for a price.

Unfortunately I didn't get a response from him yet so I really hope somebody else has made a deal with him and bring some coins so that we can buy them at the conference.

It doesn't seem reasonable to expect they would arrive on time even with casascius' prompt shipping.

So someone would _have_ to bring them, right?

It'd really be nice to have coins at the conference, especially many 1 BTC coins. I'm sure everyone will want at least one!

legendary
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I really hope somebody else has made a deal with him and bring some coins so that we can buy them at the conference.
Count me in. I'll buy 3 25BTC.
legendary
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I briefly talked to genjix on IRC and sent a mail to casascius with the estimated demand (partly with the information from this thread) and asked for a price.

Unfortunately I didn't get a response from him yet so I really hope somebody else has made a deal with him and bring some coins so that we can buy them at the conference.
hero member
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bump!


so are there gonna be a few coins for sale at the conference?

Cascasius will you be there? did you get your free ticket ?
vip
Activity: 1386
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The Casascius 1oz 10BTC Silver Round (w/ Gold B)
I just wanted to clarify that my ability to provide a discount extends to the 25BTC coins.  The 1 BTC coin is super expensive only because I otherwise can't make them fast enough to fill the orders for them - something that can't be helped by offering discounts on large orders.  I am looking to increase production capacity and will definitely make an announcement if I am able to produce the 1 BTC's faster.
hero member
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I'll take 10 to 20 small coins, and a broken one. 10 is for sure, the other 10 depend on what the price is gonna be.
hero member
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We also have some big news tomorrow about the conference, it's not as big like a conference in Pattaya big but its significant

Free ticket to cascasius if you can make it to prague for coming up with such a clever novelty, physical, promotional, cool, souvenir.

I like the sarcasm in the first sentence and the generous offer in the second Cheesy

Looking forward to prague !
hero member
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I just don't see how it really helps people understand what Bitcoin is really about. 

It helps them think. The human brain is like an iPod: touch-activated.

+1

great line Cheesy
full member
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I think they are pretty cool and I would like to incorporate them into the conference as some kind of prize.

The numbers are starting to heat up now but ill make my pledge at the last possible moment once i know what i have to work with. 
When is the last possible moment by the way?, I guess they will be 1BTC coins.

We also have some big news tomorrow about the conference, it's not as big like a conference in Pattaya big but its significant

Free ticket to cascasius if you can make it to prague for coming up with such a clever novelty, physical, promotional, cool, souvenir.
donator
Activity: 2772
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I just don't see how it really helps people understand what Bitcoin is really about. 

It helps them think. The human brain is like an iPod: touch-activated.
donator
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I pledge one 1 BTC coin and one broken 1 BTC coin.
hero member
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@ Cascasius ..u really should visit prague too and open up  shop there Cheesy
hero member
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Ok, so I'd like to pledge:

25 x 1BTC Casascius coins
2 x 25 BTC Cascasius coins
10 x 0-Bitcoin (Non-Denominated) Gold Plated Bars

But i am able to load those Bars afterwards right?  ..I plan to buy lots of btc from one of the exchangers at the conference ant then send them to my bars ...^^



Be careful with this technique of you are crossing borders.  IMO, it's better to send them to a private key that's harder to identify as something to confiscate.

Ur quite right bro ...but first I know my borders here in germany pretty good ^^ and of course they won`t be loaded with btc (at least not the bars) while I go through customs (if i have to....i am traveling by car)..
legendary
Activity: 1904
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Ok, so I'd like to pledge:

25 x 1BTC Casascius coins
2 x 25 BTC Cascasius coins
10 x 0-Bitcoin (Non-Denominated) Gold Plated Bars

But i am able to load those Bars afterwards right?  ..I plan to buy lots of btc from one of the exchangers at the conference ant then send them to my bars ...^^



Be careful with this technique of you are crossing borders.  IMO, it's better to send them to a private key that's harder to identify as something to confiscate.
vip
Activity: 1386
Merit: 1136
The Casascius 1oz 10BTC Silver Round (w/ Gold B)
Just to address my "temptation" level:  I am already quite independently wealthy before coming along and doing anything with Bitcoin.  For me to steal BTC wouldn't improve my life much, would just cause me legal trouble and would bring a lot of people looking to kick my ass, since I have made it fairly easy to find me. 

That said, the non denominated bar is meant for you to provide your own private key.  I will provide one as a sample (it's secure too), but presumably you want to generate your own and not care about having a casascius hologram because it is more a way to store your own BTC in a shiny wrapper and not to transact it face to face.
legendary
Activity: 3431
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I just don't see how it really helps people understand what Bitcoin is really about.
You have to tell people something really exists first! Only after that, if they express interest, you can tell them what it is really about. This is exactly what casascius bitcoins are - souvenirs! People just can extract additional value out of the souvenir (if there is a hologram sticker) if they understand what bitcoin is really about.

Casascius bitcoins is great idea. Just wondering, however, what would be the 'temptation' level for casascius to 'monetize' all unclaimed private keys and run away with money?
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