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Topic: Casascius Roll-Your-Own Physical Bitcoins: Only 0.13 BTC (Read 4690 times)

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...Simply order 5 or more of my "broken 1BTC sample" on my website....

Mike: what are these? And are the roll your own coins still available?
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That's how I felt in the past, but I don't anticipate offering access to the dies now that the current appearance is strongly associated with me


Do you have any underlying issue if I buy blanks from another vendor and enamel them and then offer them for sale? Obviously not under your name but as you say physical bit-coins seem to have become as synonymous with you as search engines have with Google.......
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The Casascius 1oz 10BTC Silver Round (w/ Gold B)
The only issue I see by making the coins different is you are not allowing an industryd'standard' to go across the coin offerings that you have made. Plus having offered blanks out already means they are already out there. From a counterfeiting view- thats already a possibility right there. The hologram and verification program seems to be the main security here, not just the simple disk of Brass?

Just having offered coins already would put the blanks out there, since anyone could rip off the hologram, clean the coin, and have a blank.

Supply and demand has dictated that the purpose of Casascius Coins has evolved from being a functional proof of concept to a collector's item.  One merits a "standard", the other, not so much.

I saw that you once said in a post that you dont mind people using the design- even offering up the dies at one point- as long as they did not put 'casascius' anywhere on the coin. Does that offer still hold?

That's how I felt in the past, but I don't anticipate offering access to the dies now that the current appearance is strongly associated with me and that the market has decided that a Casascius Coin is a collector's item.  That said, I don't own the Bitcoin logo or the word "BITCOIN", so hopefully people will use their own resourcefulness and creativity and come up with something relatively original.
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I am no longer offering roll-your-owns of the same metallic coin that goes into my real coins.

I introduced new roll-your-owns at the conference that are markedly different - they are aluminum and non-denominated.  They are lighter and bigger - both in an obvious manner - than my regular fare of coins.

Chances are pretty good I will be able to offer these as a sort of business card!  That seemed to be the overwhelming interest in them at the conference.  They could be loaded with 0.01 BTC as well.

Also, I'm going to be offering them in bags of 500.  I initially was thinking I'd do 5000, but the sentiment I got was that's just too high a quantity for most people.

The only issue I see by making the coins different is you are not allowing an industryd'standard' to go across the coin offerings that you have made. Plus having offered blanks out already means they are already out there. From a counterfeiting view- thats already a possibility right there. The hologram and verification program seems to be the main security here, not just the simple disk of Brass?

I saw that you once said in a post that you dont mind people using the design- even offering up the dies at one point- as long as they did not put 'casascius' anywhere on the coin. Does that offer still hold?

I would have hoped that the euro-zone approach would have been taken here- 1 design for the coins, and then issuers in charge of their own holographics etc, just like the 1 and 2 euro coins have a standard side and then the states do their own thing with the front.

I was hoping to secure some from you to enamel them and offer them as fun, maybe even loaded with bitcoin if possible to have some collectors editions.

I've been offered a few hundred from someone who says he has some blanks but at a lot higher price than I really would like to pay for them Sad 
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The Casascius 1oz 10BTC Silver Round (w/ Gold B)
I am no longer offering roll-your-owns of the same metallic coin that goes into my real coins.

I introduced new roll-your-owns at the conference that are markedly different - they are aluminum and non-denominated.  They are lighter and bigger - both in an obvious manner - than my regular fare of coins.

Chances are pretty good I will be able to offer these as a sort of business card!  That seemed to be the overwhelming interest in them at the conference.  They could be loaded with 0.01 BTC as well.

Also, I'm going to be offering them in bags of 500.  I initially was thinking I'd do 5000, but the sentiment I got was that's just too high a quantity for most people.
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It's still easier to make fake ones when you have the pressed coin to go.
I agree. The roll-your-own coins should at least differ in some aspects (rather than being a perfect copy of one "real" Casascius coin)
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I think the idea behind these are to give people  way to create their own which I find more valuable since you don't have to put your trust in anyone but your self. Not to fake a casascius coin. It seems birdy might not understand how they work.
I do understand how they work.
It's still easier to make fake ones when you have the pressed coin to go.
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I think the idea behind these are to give people  way to create their own which I find more valuable since you don't have to put your trust in anyone but your self. Not to fake a casascius coin. It seems birdy might not understand how they work.
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The problem with those Roll-Your-Own Coins is that you give people ideal coins to fake the real ones :/

I think thats what holograms are for......

Yes, but it's still easier if you only have to create a hologram.
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The problem with those Roll-Your-Own Coins is that you give people ideal coins to fake the real ones :/

I think thats what holograms are for......
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The problem with those Roll-Your-Own Coins is that you give people ideal coins to fake the real ones :/
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I`m a little late to the party, but I would really like to get some Casascius coins.  

The roll-your-own idea is brilliant.  Is this going to happen again?  I don`t see it on the website, and I also realize that Casascius must already be insanely busy handling large orders to wholesaler clients.  Is there still any way for individuals to still get hold of the roll-your-own coins?

today I was PM'ed by a guy who says he has the dies for the coins and is thinking of making them. So someone might start doing it soon........
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I`m a little late to the party, but I would really like to get some Casascius coins. 

The roll-your-own idea is brilliant.  Is this going to happen again?  I don`t see it on the website, and I also realize that Casascius must already be insanely busy handling large orders to wholesaler clients.  Is there still any way for individuals to still get hold of the roll-your-own coins?
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Hi Mike,

are you still doing this?

I was thinking these would be cool keyrings/cut coin coinarts (if you have ever seen cut coin art)

I might want to order some off you like that.

I have some low cost aluminum coins that I"ll be showing at the conference, you simply add your own sticker to the back.

Aluminium doesn't take as well to coin cutting as brass. Its not so nice to enamel either.......If you start selling blanks again let me know. Or I saw you said that you might sell the right to the dies, which would be cool. Im much more into the numismatics of it than the actual BTC.

Are you ever thinking of making a proof set? 0.1,0.2,0.5,1 and 2 would make a really nice set in proof.
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The Casascius 1oz 10BTC Silver Round (w/ Gold B)

Hi Mike,

are you still doing this?

I was thinking these would be cool keyrings/cut coin coinarts (if you have ever seen cut coin art)

I might want to order some off you like that.

I have some low cost aluminum coins that I"ll be showing at the conference, you simply add your own sticker to the back.
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I just thought of a new product I'd like to offer, and you can order it right now on my website for 0.13 BTC.  I will automatically treat any order of 5 or more "broken" coins as an order for roll-your-owns.

The "roll your own" Physical Bitcoin is simply a real Casascius coin without the hologram and without any funds.  Instead you get a fresh private key circle (so you can fund it) and a gold foil sticker to cover the key.

The big advantage?  CHEAP.  Especially in quantity, if you don't care about there being a Casascius hologram.  Perfect if you are trying to give BTC for birthdays or as freebies to others at the lowest cost, to someone who won't care about the lack of a hologram.

Simply order 5 or more of my "broken 1BTC sample" on my website.  Rather than receiving coins with a torn hologram, you will receive brand new fresh coins that have never been stickered.  You'll receive a sheet of gold stickers, and a pack of pre-cut private key circles to fit.  (I will typically provide a few extra stickers and keys than you paid for so you can feel free to test/ruin a few).

The circles are laser-cut and have the private minikey on one side and the firstbits on the other, and each one is unique.  To fund it, you look up the full bitcoin address via the firstbits from https://www.casascius.com/fulllist.txt.  Same policy as on my other keys - I do not keep the private key, for each key you get, it is the only copy that exists - you're also welcome to create your own keys if you feel inclined.


Hi Mike,

are you still doing this?

I was thinking these would be cool keyrings/cut coin coinarts (if you have ever seen cut coin art)

I might want to order some off you like that.
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Your coins are not fire proof

Neither are dollar bills.
Most coinage would melt under a normal house fire anyway.
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Your coins are not fire proof

Neither are dollar bills.
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Sorry, only denominated coins.  But I do have a non denominated gold plated bar.

Any possibility of some coins with engraved keys? Your coins are not fire proof Sad
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The Casascius 1oz 10BTC Silver Round (w/ Gold B)
Sorry, only denominated coins.  But I do have a non denominated gold plated bar.
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