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Quote from: LDL on November 05, 2023, 03:43:04 PM

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Bangladesh have already lost all chances of the semi-finals,

Yeh they are out of the tournament but such victory help them little bit while playing champion trophy but to be honest such behaviour from Shakib really disappointed entire fans because such things runied his sportsmanship spirit, anyway Bangladesh won this important Match thier his partnership with shanto. Now tomorrow we have a very special match between Australia and Afghanistan. I think Australia will win this important match not much important for them but for Pakistan qualification to semifinals and if we have a look at Afghanistan previous two win they won while chasing so i believe they will give tough time to Australia and it will be really interesting to watch

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Bangladesh have already lost all chances of the semi-finals, but if the remaining matches of the World Cup are held today, they will play their eighth match against Sri Lanka. There are doubts whether the match will actually take place as the amount of air pollution and smog has made the management skeptical about the match taking place.
Even if Bangladesh wins today's match, they will not get any advantage, but if Sri Lanka wins today's match, there will be no possibility of qualifying in the semi-finals. If Sri Lanka wins today's match against Bangladesh and if they win against New Zealand, is it possible to reach the semi-finals?

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Quote from: Haunebu on November 03, 2023, 09:35:11 AM

2017 isn't recent and Pakistan lost against India in the Asia Cup 2023. Keep dreaming because they need a miracle to qualify for the semi-finals.

It will be not recent for you but it will always recent for us because we are not about to forget such a amazing and gorgeous moments and will not allow you to forget such beautiful moments lol 😂. Anyway I was just talking about high stages matches (like finals of different competitions) results between India and paksitan and here are two 2017 champions trophy and emerging Asia cup. Where paksitan has dominance over India. No doubt it's true that paksitan has lose recent matches against them just like you mentioned above but when it come to big level results will be different this time too when paksitan beat NewZeland with decent margin and England too and then give amazing surprise to top 4😉😎

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Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on November 02, 2023, 05:11:26 PM

No no I just want to correct you that paksitan will face NewZeland firstly and then will face the out of form and the team who hold bottom of the table name England , while Australia will have to face Afghanistan but not paksitan. So I believe if paksitan get victory against NewZeland which will be tough one but then after that definitely they will get victory too against easy opponent England and will secure his position

Wrong! Afghanistan already have more points than Pakistan and they are about to gain even more points with their win(Most likely) against Netherlands which implies that they stand a better chance at qualifying for the semi-finals.

Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on November 02, 2023, 05:11:26 PM

Paksitan has history to fall down at extreme level and then comback and smashed each an every they faced also I want to remind you that in recent time paksitan faced india two time at high stage in ODI format and both time they beat India and become victorious, first in champion trophy 2017 and then emerging Asia cup 2023. So think before such kind of statement 😜😎

2017 isn't recent and Pakistan lost against India in the Asia Cup 2023. Keep dreaming because they need a miracle to qualify for the semi-finals.

Currently, prediction is surely not easy because now we have less than 24 hours in match, so winner could be on better place even Pakistan is having problem with NRR but still they are in for the top four with three teams are mostly settled and now last team to be clear in coming days today Afghanistan done good job with this win now they are having fifth spot and their NRR is also good, but they are having two big games against Australia and South Africa which is surely not easy but still New Zealand is clearly favorite.
New Zealand is having only 11 fit players which is matter of worry about them because their injury list is going long and Australia is also facing problems which is also interesting now tomorrow is very vital day for few teams how things will be happened all will be clear until now just wait and watch this cricket is funny game.

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Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on November 02, 2023, 05:11:26 PM

No no I just want to correct you that paksitan will face NewZeland firstly and then will face the out of form and the team who hold bottom of the table name England , while Australia will have to face Afghanistan but not paksitan. So I believe if paksitan get victory against NewZeland which will be tough one but then after that definitely they will get victory too against easy opponent England and will secure his position

Wrong! Afghanistan already have more points than Pakistan and they are about to gain even more points with their win(Most likely) against Netherlands which implies that they stand a better chance at qualifying for the semi-finals.

Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on November 02, 2023, 05:11:26 PM

Paksitan has history to fall down at extreme level and then comback and smashed each an every they faced also I want to remind you that in recent time paksitan faced india two time at high stage in ODI format and both time they beat India and become victorious, first in champion trophy 2017 and then emerging Asia cup 2023. So think before such kind of statement 😜😎

2017 isn't recent and Pakistan lost against India in the Asia Cup 2023. Keep dreaming because they need a miracle to qualify for the semi-finals.

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Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on November 02, 2023, 05:11:26 PM

Paksitan has history to fall down at extreme level and then comback and smashed each an every they faced also I want to remind you that in recent time paksitan faced india two time at high stage in ODI format and both time they beat India and become victorious, first in champion trophy 2017 and then emerging Asia cup 2023. So think before such kind of statement 😜😎

It is not possible for Pakistan to come back because there was no chance of Sri Lanka qualifying from the World Cup this year in tomorrow's match by 302 runs. However, if Pakistan can give their best performance against New Zealand and England, Pakistan will be able to come back from the weak condition like the past records in this ICC World Cup.

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Quote from: Haunebu on November 02, 2023, 12:36:43 AM

You guys are dreaming frankly speaking. Pakistan needs to win their remaining matches by big margins and teams like Aus, NZ and Afg need to lose their remaining matches by decent margins as mentioned in the link.

No no I just want to correct you that paksitan will face NewZeland firstly and then will face the out of form and the team who hold bottom of the table name England , while Australia will have to face Afghanistan but not paksitan. So I believe if paksitan get victory against NewZeland which will be tough one but then after that definitely they will get victory too against easy opponent England and will secure his position

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Chances of that happening are extremely small. Also, India vs Pakistan in the semis or finals would be boring since India would most probably crush them currently. Think!

Paksitan has history to fall down at extreme level and then comback and smashed each an every they faced also I want to remind you that in recent time paksitan faced india two time at high stage in ODI format and both time they beat India and become victorious, first in champion trophy 2017 and then emerging Asia cup 2023. So think before such kind of statement 😜😎

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Quote from: Haunebu on November 01, 2023, 12:33:48 AM

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/3762767

India qualified. South Africa 99% qualified. Remaining 2 slots will most probably be taken by Aus and NZ, but Afg can sneak in if they continue winning somehow.

But I didn't understand your statement why not paksitan qualify for next semifinals stage, they have decent chance compared to Afghanistan. If we have a look at point table then paksitan are far ahead in net runrate while have to face NewZeland and England compared to Afghanistan they have to face southafrica, Australia and sirilanka so i am extremely sure that NewZeland broke thier momentum and lose thier confidence after this huge margin defeat so they will be under huge pressure against paksitan and if paksitan done scored 350 around at bat first then thier opponent have no chance.

So if paksitan won against NewZeland then India, Australia, south Africa and paksitan will be semifinalist and we have to enjoy one again paksitan vs India. Kiss

Qualifying for the semi-finals is a complicated equation for New Zealand and Pakistan. If Pakistan wins against this year's underperforming England, there will be a 100% chance of securing the semi-finals. But from the performance of New Zealand in tomorrow's match, there is a lot of possibility that New Zealand will lose with Pakistan. If Pakistan can win against New Zealand and England then Pakistan will secure semi-final without any tie. May Pakistan secure the semi-final and face India-Pakistan in the World Cup. But this World Cup will be most interesting if India-Pakistan face each other.

New Zealand's suddenly fallen is grace for the Afghanistan and Pakistan but here still they are favorite because Pakistan having problem in NRR and Afghanistan is having big match ahead of them which are not easy to win specially against Australia and South Africa but here for me, we will have two teams for the last fourth spot New Zealand and Pakistan.
As many mentioning semi-final between India vs Pakistan it's possibility, but I am not having any thoughts about this because for me first how things will be gone for the last few matches then we can go ahead for these big matches currently I am feeling we will have South Africa at the top with India and Australia for the second and third spot teams are already settled right now just wait and watch for the last fourth team who could be going to complete this line-up.

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Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on November 01, 2023, 05:00:52 PM

If we have a look at point table then paksitan are far ahead in net runrate while have to face NewZeland and England compared to Afghanistan they have to face southafrica, Australia and sirilanka so i am extremely sure that NewZeland broke thier momentum and lose thier confidence after this huge margin defeat so they will be under huge pressure against paksitan and if paksitan done scored 350 around at bat first then thier opponent have no chance.

Quote from: LDL on November 01, 2023, 07:50:22 PM

If Pakistan can win against New Zealand and England then Pakistan will secure semi-final without any tie. May Pakistan secure the semi-final and face India-Pakistan in the World Cup.

You guys are dreaming frankly speaking. Pakistan needs to win their remaining matches by big margins and teams like Aus, NZ and Afg need to lose their remaining matches by decent margins as mentioned in the link.

Chances of that happening are extremely small. Also, India vs Pakistan in the semis or finals would be boring since India would most probably crush them currently. Think!

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Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on November 01, 2023, 05:00:52 PM

Quote from: Haunebu on November 01, 2023, 12:33:48 AM

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/3762767

India qualified. South Africa 99% qualified. Remaining 2 slots will most probably be taken by Aus and NZ, but Afg can sneak in if they continue winning somehow.

But I didn't understand your statement why not paksitan qualify for next semifinals stage, they have decent chance compared to Afghanistan. If we have a look at point table then paksitan are far ahead in net runrate while have to face NewZeland and England compared to Afghanistan they have to face southafrica, Australia and sirilanka so i am extremely sure that NewZeland broke thier momentum and lose thier confidence after this huge margin defeat so they will be under huge pressure against paksitan and if paksitan done scored 350 around at bat first then thier opponent have no chance.

So if paksitan won against NewZeland then India, Australia, south Africa and paksitan will be semifinalist and we have to enjoy one again paksitan vs India. Kiss

Qualifying for the semi-finals is a complicated equation for New Zealand and Pakistan. If Pakistan wins against this year's underperforming England, there will be a 100% chance of securing the semi-finals. But from the performance of New Zealand in tomorrow's match, there is a lot of possibility that New Zealand will lose with Pakistan. If Pakistan can win against New Zealand and England then Pakistan will secure semi-final without any tie. May Pakistan secure the semi-final and face India-Pakistan in the World Cup. But this World Cup will be most interesting if India-Pakistan face each other.

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Quote from: Haunebu on November 01, 2023, 12:33:48 AM

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/3762767

India qualified. South Africa 99% qualified. Remaining 2 slots will most probably be taken by Aus and NZ, but Afg can sneak in if they continue winning somehow.

But I didn't understand your statement why not paksitan qualify for next semifinals stage, they have decent chance compared to Afghanistan. If we have a look at point table then paksitan are far ahead in net runrate while have to face NewZeland and England compared to Afghanistan they have to face southafrica, Australia and sirilanka so i am extremely sure that NewZeland broke thier momentum and lose thier confidence after this huge margin defeat so they will be under huge pressure against paksitan and if paksitan done scored 350 around at bat first then thier opponent have no chance.

So if paksitan won against NewZeland then India, Australia, south Africa and paksitan will be semifinalist and we have to enjoy one again paksitan vs India. Kiss

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You guys are complicating things with different calculations. Am sharing a link published by ICC and they properly show the semifinals qualification scenarios for all teams in a logical manner.

https://www.icc-cricket.com/news/3762767

India qualified. South Africa 99% qualified. Remaining 2 slots will most probably be taken by Aus and NZ, but Afg can sneak in if they continue winning somehow.

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Quote from: SATWAT on October 31, 2023, 05:22:46 PM

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Pakistan will have a chance to go to the semi-finals if Pakistan wins the next two matches by a huge margin, so if their NRR is high, there will be a positive trends in the points table. On the other hand, New Zealand must lose today's match against South Africa, not just by losing but by a huge margin. In this case New Zealand's points will be 8 points but NRR will come down a lot.
Another bad news for Pakistan is that New Zealand is 100% sure to win against Sri Lanka in which their points will go down to 10 and their net run rate is much better than Pakistan. Moreover, there are two more matches for Pakistan in which even if Pakistan wins, they will not be able to win by a big margin. But all the best for Pakistan, I am hoping that Pakistan will qualify for the semi-finals.

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Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on October 31, 2023, 01:09:39 PM

One think which are in my mind that may be paksitan could be yeh 4th semifinalist by kicking out NewZeland. Shocked

Six teams ,,, India, SA , NZ , Australia, Pakistan & Afghanistan rest matches.

India Vs (SL, RSA, NED) highly possible to beat All team
SA Vs (IND, NZ , AFG) highly possible to beat AFG
NZ Vs (RSA, PAK, SL) highly possible to beat SL
AUS Vs (England, Bangladesh, Afghanistan) highly possible to beat All
PAK Vs (NZ , England) highly possible to beat England
AFG Vs (NED, AUS, RSA) highly possible to beat Netherland

India possible points 18 or 16 (Confirm semi)
South Africa possible points 12 or 14
NZ possible points 12 or 14
Australia possible points 14
Pakistan possible points 8 or 10
Afghanistan possible points 8

India, RSA, NZ , Australia this top teams can qualify semifinals.

Maybe you are right in your calculation about this all but here few things which are you ignoring like Pakistan can beat New Zealand and England with if tomorrow New Zealand lost against South Africa then they will be having only 10 points, and then we have to check NRR because as mentioned in above post I have feeling Australia will be at the third spot with New Zealand can slip to fourth with their NRR could be give them place into last four but still now we have interesting phase of the World cup after few bad matches and poor things.
But if we have New Zealand as winner against South Africa then surely Pakistan and others hope are end because all will be above 12 points which is not possible from Pakistan or Afghanistan.

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Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on October 31, 2023, 01:09:39 PM

One think which are in my mind that may be paksitan could be yeh 4th semifinalist by kicking out NewZeland. Shocked

Six teams ,,, India, SA , NZ , Australia, Pakistan & Afghanistan rest matches.

India Vs (SL, RSA, NED) highly possible to beat All team
SA Vs (IND, NZ , AFG) highly possible to beat AFG
NZ Vs (RSA, PAK, SL) highly possible to beat SL
AUS Vs (England, Bangladesh, Afghanistan) highly possible to beat All
PAK Vs (NZ , England) highly possible to beat England
AFG Vs (NED, AUS, RSA) highly possible to beat Netherland

India possible points 18 or 16 (Confirm semi)
South Africa possible points 12 or 14
NZ possible points 12 or 14
Australia possible points 14
Pakistan possible points 8 or 10
Afghanistan possible points 8

India, RSA, NZ , Australia this top teams can qualify semifinals.

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Quote from: SATWAT on October 31, 2023, 09:50:54 AM

Afghanistan having not fair chance even they won three big games but lost to Bangladesh is surely going to hurt them badly with now Pakistan, England and Sri Lanka are out of the top four which mean most chances rest of top four will stay.

You are still underestimating Afghanistan team even after they brutally defeat paksitan team, no doubt they have very small and bad history in ICC events but currently thier player are jel and In form and I believe if they played same like thier recent then definitely they can achieve something big if we have a look at afghan team most of the are below 25 rather than 3 player so TBH they will be really dangerous side in near future. Let's have a look at table if Afghanistan won all of thier remaining 3 matches then they will have 12 points because currently they are standing with 6 points so you should not underestimate them they can qualify.
One think which are in my mind that may be paksitan could be yeh 4th semifinalist by kicking out NewZeland. Shocked

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Quote from: LDL on October 31, 2023, 09:36:09 AM

Quote from: Haunebu on October 31, 2023, 09:24:31 AM

Why the heck does Bangladesh keep sending Mahmudullah down the order when he is in top form currently? Also, Pakistan should have replaced Imam with Zaman a long time ago.

Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on October 30, 2023, 01:08:04 PM

also they have to play 3 more matches against Netherlands, Australia, southafrica so if they able to won at least two then they will have 10 points which mean they can move to semis for a first time in ODI world Cup history.

10 points aren't enough to secure a semifinals spot though. They need a great NRR and they need teams like Australia and New Zealand to lose some of their upcoming matches in order to secure a spot which is a difficult ask basically.

India, New Zealand, South Africa, and Australia have the highest chances of playing the semi-finals in this World Cup. A win in any of their remaining matches would give them enough points and net run rate to qualify for the semi-finals. So no matter how well the rest of the teams do, they won't have the points to qualify. Afghanistan, England,Pakistan, Sri Lanka do not see any possibility of qualifying in the semi-finals.

I agreed with your point about last four but still few changes can happen which will affect top four like right now Australia is having 4 matches winning streaks which is good for them and in next game if they beat which having good chances then Australia could be at the third spot and New Zealand which already lost against India and Australia now going to face which is crucial match and in case of lost they could be at the fourth spot this can bring turning point.
Afghanistan having not fair chance even they won three big games but lost to Bangladesh is surely going to hurt them badly with now Pakistan, England and Sri Lanka are out of the top four which mean most chances rest of top four will stay.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 31, 2023, 09:24:31 AM

Why the heck does Bangladesh keep sending Mahmudullah down the order when he is in top form currently? Also, Pakistan should have replaced Imam with Zaman a long time ago.

Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on October 30, 2023, 01:08:04 PM

also they have to play 3 more matches against Netherlands, Australia, southafrica so if they able to won at least two then they will have 10 points which mean they can move to semis for a first time in ODI world Cup history.

10 points aren't enough to secure a semifinals spot though. They need a great NRR and they need teams like Australia and New Zealand to lose some of their upcoming matches in order to secure a spot which is a difficult ask basically.

India, New Zealand, South Africa, and Australia have the highest chances of playing the semi-finals in this World Cup. A win in any of their remaining matches would give them enough points and net run rate to qualify for the semi-finals. So no matter how well the rest of the teams do, they won't have the points to qualify. Afghanistan, England,Pakistan, Sri Lanka do not see any possibility of qualifying in the semi-finals.

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Why the heck does Bangladesh keep sending Mahmudullah down the order when he is in top form currently? Also, Pakistan should have replaced Imam with Zaman a long time ago.

Quote from: ZAINmalik75 on October 30, 2023, 01:08:04 PM

also they have to play 3 more matches against Netherlands, Australia, southafrica so if they able to won at least two then they will have 10 points which mean they can move to semis for a first time in ODI world Cup history.

10 points aren't enough to secure a semifinals spot though. They need a great NRR and they need teams like Australia and New Zealand to lose some of their upcoming matches in order to secure a spot which is a difficult ask basically.

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Quote from: Haunebu on October 30, 2023, 09:15:02 AM

Lmao. I really thought that England would defeat India since the target was low, but they embarassed themselves by getting thrashed by 100 runs. They should just pack their bags and leave now.

Also, Afghanistan and Sri Lanka seem to have equal chances of winning their match though I would give the edge to the Lankans.

Even these both matches were not interesting but still have good games with England start was good as they took early wickets and bring India under pressure but due to worst batting they bring themselves out of the match no batsman were able to have anything good against spirited Indian bowling Mohammad Shami bring them down which is really impressive.
Afghanistan is surely in heavens with their performance as they bring down three world champions down with their performance and now have chance for the top four as well even things are not easy but good performance from them in this event which is good for the game.

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