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Quote from: Haunebu on September 30, 2022, 09:53:12 AM

Am a casino pleb myself, but I disagree with your advice about playing games only with the lowest house edge. Why? Because house edge isn't everything. Some of my biggest wins were from games with high house edge.

Games which I usually play are slots, Baccarat, sports betting etc where the house edge varies between them to a large degree. Fun > House edge in my opinion.

I am with you on this, house edge should not be total, I was so amazed when I was reading what the OP wrote as if it was a fixed budget affair. Dice rolling and casinos, in general, do not work like that as nothing works 100% with gambling, but to just follow someone's mind/instincts and variable approaches, is not fixed advice from anyone.

No one should be total in a certain approach to gambling and must find a way to play based on what their minds are telling them at that current time.

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You can take OP's advice and play it safe with a game with a very low house edge or you can slightly increase your risk and play in-house casino games like Stake.com originals with more or less the same house edge and have more fun. Tongue

Gambling should be entertainment.. not a method to make profit or to play it safe all the time. The 3rd party Slot providers have a higher house edge, but they are a lot more fun than playing BlackJack and Craps for hours on end. Roll Eyes

Just enjoy the experience and get the adrenaline pumping, by playing games with a house edge of between 3% and 4% and higher variance.... because you might just win the big one. Wink

(Example : Hacksaw Gaming) Cool

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The main objective of the gambling casino gives us entertainment at the same time is to get an earning and let the players enjoy winning at the same time that's why the players make a different strategies and techniques just to beat the game itself. Thats why there's a lot of player have different preferences like the RTP, bonus, free spins and etc so they can entertain themselves and got the higher chance of winnings.

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Quote from: agustina2 on September 30, 2022, 08:23:48 AM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on September 30, 2022, 06:50:32 AM

We're merely plebs, many of us. Although there are also casino whales in the forum, I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack, Craps, and Roullette IF you just bet on Red or Black.

I think that doesn't change the fact that our winning chance is still by luck. Although Blackjack should be associated with a good decision, we are still playing against the house. Craps is also a difficult game that's why even though it was stated that the house edge of this game is between 0 - 16.67%, still, if luck doesn't come to us we will be doomed. Roulettes, even if we just have to bet on red or black is also a difficult game.

In conclusion, we can't really feel that these casino games really have the lowest house edge.

For me, just choose the game we are comfortable to play with.

I think it makes sense that people look for games with the lowest house edge possible, but at the same time all of that is for nothing if we are not having any kind of fun, so the first criteria should be to find games in which we feel comfortable and that give us the fun and excitement we are looking for, and once that has been taken care for then we can look for the variation of the game which has the lowest house edge and which allows us to play the longest.

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I think that we should all be playing mostly poker, as mostly as a social activity. It is more likely to end in winnings and fun than most games out there in the casinos and in my view much more fun that those you listed. Anyway, thanks for the compilation and I will see that I learn a bit about each of those ones.

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on September 30, 2022, 06:50:32 AM

We're merely plebs, many of us. Although there are also casino whales in the forum, I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack and Craps.

I tried both of them, and my favorite is Craps. For a beginner, just bet on 6 and 8, then if the dice roll is a 7, you lose, if it's 6 or 8 you win. There are other betting strategies to use to increase your bets called "press and collect", but that's for another topic. Cool

The reasoning on why "just place on 6 and 8" is the lower house edge = 1.52%, definitely lower if compared to playing your favorite slot machines.

Plus there are bets with lower house edge in craps, like Pass Line/Come Bet = 1.41%, Don’t Pass/Come = 1.40%.
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Your topic is interesting but at which casino do you play craps currently? Very few live casinos are offering this game actually, because I think it's a little bit complicated to quickly understand all the rules for a beginner.

I play Craps in BlackJack.fun, Betplay, and Owl.Games, but most of my time is currently in BlackJack.fun because of the free spins as rewards for playing, and because they have an active community there. Plus I believe most of the casinos that have Evolution Gaming also have Craps. You have to go to Evolution's actual lobby and search for "Craps", it will be there.

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Regarding the house edge it isn't the lowest among live games if your figures are correct. Blackjack house edge is almost 3 times lower than that, and Baccarat house edge is also lower than 1.5% even without commission and still lower than those figures if you bet on player.
Moreover you can find few slots claiming they have a RTP of 99%, which is hard to check though.

https://www.tangamsystems.com/post/north-america-its-time-to-adopt-no-commission-baccarat

I believe I never claimed that Craps has the lowest house edge? Although, it's among the lowest, and relatively very low compared to slot machines.

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Quote from: davis196 on October 04, 2022, 02:14:47 AM

You are coming up with the assumption that the gamblers must gamble with the mentality of "winning more money or at least losing less money". I've always thought that this is a wrong mentality. Gambling is supposed to be fun, not a chore(assuming that you know when to stop and don't get addicted). To me, the mentality of gambling in order to win some money will always lead to addiction.

That's the point. It is by no means to be taken as a system for making money. The ideal is to think about entertainment. Like going to the cinema, but with the difference that at the end of the session you may leave with more money than you came in with.

Quote from: danadc on October 04, 2022, 11:00:37 PM

<...> for me a casino that gives players more advantage is because it is in trouble, it is like banks when they advertise, and I have seen some casinos that claim to have the lowest house edge there is, and all at once I think that they are in trouble <...>

You are wrong. A lower margin attracts more customers. It does not inexorably mean that the casino is in trouble.

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Quote from: Nrcewker on October 03, 2022, 10:39:39 PM

Quote from: yahoo62278 on September 30, 2022, 08:04:32 AM

If you're going to create a topic like this please move it to the gambling discussion board. It really doesn't belong in the gambling section as is. You really need to add more to the discussion vs just a generic explanation without really focusing on any rules. You're leading gamblers down a bad path being so vague.

Op has forgotten that the house always wins.
No matter how low the house edge is, if there is house edge present, then definitely the house will be in profit.
Basically I don’t support any casino games, as it’s completely based on luck, and the casinos always takes heavy profits from it.
It will be great if we completely avoid casino games and play on sports events, as this has to do more with calculation and predictions, rather than pure luck.

We have seen this thing about the house winning since we were little and in the movies, it is something common, for me a casino that gives players more advantage is because it is in trouble, it is like banks when they advertise, and I have seen some casinos that claim to have the lowest house edge there is, and all at once I think that they are in trouble, that they don't have many players, that they need to move the casino games, that they have more publicity or something, but we can't get on To think that a casino is going to give money away and if a casino does that of giving money away, it quickly goes bankrupt, even if it is 1 dollar, a casino takes good care of it.

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You are coming up with the assumption that the gamblers must gamble with the mentality of "winning more money or at least losing less money". I've always thought that this is a wrong mentality. Gambling is supposed to be fun, not a chore(assuming that you know when to stop and don't get addicted). To me, the mentality of gambling in order to win some money will always lead to addiction.
I wouldn't play boring games like BlackJack or Crabs only because they offer lower house edge and I have a higher chance to win money.
Just play more interesting games(even when they have higher house edge) and know when to stop.
At the end of the day, the casinos make most of their money from the gambling addicts. This is the ugly truth.

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Quote from: Nrcewker on October 03, 2022, 10:39:39 PM

Op has forgotten that the house always wins.
No matter how low the house edge is, if there is house edge present, then definitely the house will be in profit.
Basically I don’t support any casino games, as it’s completely based on luck, and the casinos always takes heavy profits from it.
It will be great if we completely avoid casino games and play on sports events, as this has to do more with calculation and predictions, rather than pure luck.

I don't think he has forgotten it as he is clearly talking about House Edge. What strikes me is that he uses the term "plebs", which sounds almost medieval to me.

Check the vocabulary you use, OP, you can't have that low regard for yourself, never mind that you don't have a lot of money.

Regarding the other thing you say, in casino games the house wins in the long run inevitably due to the House Edge, but still, they attract many players because they provide entertainment and online crypto casinos usually provide a fairly high RTP, which together with cashback reduces the HE quite a lot.

In other types of games such as sports betting or poker, you can be a winner in the long term, but all that glitters is not gold, because even in these types of games the vast majority of players are losers.

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Quote from: yahoo62278 on September 30, 2022, 08:04:32 AM

If you're going to create a topic like this please move it to the gambling discussion board. It really doesn't belong in the gambling section as is. You really need to add more to the discussion vs just a generic explanation without really focusing on any rules. You're leading gamblers down a bad path being so vague.

Op has forgotten that the house always wins.
No matter how low the house edge is, if there is house edge present, then definitely the house will be in profit.
Basically I don’t support any casino games, as it’s completely based on luck, and the casinos always takes heavy profits from it.
It will be great if we completely avoid casino games and play on sports events, as this has to do more with calculation and predictions, rather than pure luck.

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Quote from: passwordnow on October 02, 2022, 04:55:20 PM

I haven't played craps but if that's the strategy that works for you then that's good but it may not work for those that would try it. I guess that advice at the end is applicable to everyone that gambles with any other games.
We have the luck, we have to analyze and make strategies that we do for the games that we play. We have to remember that majority of them have always the house edge and the bigger chance is always on the casino itself and not with us.

I've also never played craps so I don't understand the strategy to make a chance to win bigger and also when playing other types of games don't really pay much attention to the house edge, because in my opinion all casino games except games that require skill are very dependent on luck.

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Quote from: agustina2 on September 30, 2022, 08:23:48 AM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on September 30, 2022, 06:50:32 AM

We're merely plebs, many of us. Although there are also casino whales in the forum, I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack, Craps, and Roullette IF you just bet on Red or Black.

I think that doesn't change the fact that our winning chance is still by luck. Although Blackjack should be associated with a good decision, we are still playing against the house. Craps is also a difficult game that's why even though it was stated that the house edge of this game is between 0 - 16.67%, still, if luck doesn't come to us we will be doomed. Roulettes, even if we just have to bet on red or black is also a difficult game.

In conclusion, we can't really feel that these casino games really have the lowest house edge.

For me, just choose the game we are comfortable to play with.

I guess in gambling, whether you came from a high or low social status, that won’t give you a guarantee to win as gambling will always be a game of chance and luck, and that the house will always win. Even if you play in those low edge house casinos, losses will always be inevitable. But if you know how to manage your finances and you always play in an amount you can afford to lose, losing will never become a big deal on you.

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I haven't played craps but if that's the strategy that works for you then that's good but it may not work for those that would try it. I guess that advice at the end is applicable to everyone that gambles with any other games.
We have the luck, we have to analyze and make strategies that we do for the games that we play. We have to remember that majority of them have always the house edge and the bigger chance is always on the casino itself and not with us.

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Quote from: mindrust on October 01, 2022, 06:20:17 AM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on September 30, 2022, 06:50:32 AM

We're merely plebs, many of us. Although there are also casino whales in the forum, I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack and Craps.

I tried both of them, and my favorite is Craps. For a beginner, just bet on 6 and 8, then if the dice roll is a 7, you lose, if it's 6 or 8 you win. There are other betting strategies to use to increase your bets called "press and collect", but that's for another topic. Cool

The reasoning on why "just place on 6 and 8" is the lower house edge = 1.52%, definitely lower if compared to playing your favorite slot machines.

So the game don't really matter in the end. It is all about the house edge. If some other casino provides a lower house edge than 1.52% then it will be a better game than craps. You named a betting strategy there but I am pretty sure you already know by now that these strategies are worthless. When you play a luck based game these strategies/algos only make you lose for sure because the house edge becomes more and more effective as long as you keep playing.

As far as my experience tell me, any luck based game will give us random result. No matter how high the house edge is, especially in slots. House edge is countered by RTP, wherein after several losses, a script where you can get a huge winning bet will appear. Though how to trigger that RTP is somehow alien to me Grin

Quote from: mindrust on October 01, 2022, 06:20:17 AM

The only and the best way to avoid getting caught by the house edge is playing less and wagering all your bankroll.

If we do this kind of strategy, it may evade the house edge but we are also missing the RTP, besided since it is a game of chance, there is a huge possibility that we can get busted even before any of the two triggered.

Quote from: mindrust on October 01, 2022, 06:20:17 AM

If the house edge is 1.5%, that means on a x2 game, you'll have 48.5% chance to win that bet. That chance is definitely not small. You can fool math if you play once as 48.5% and 51.5% are pretty damn close but if you don't stop and keep playing that you'll lose.

I agree, the difference between the percentage will come visible in the long run. If we are used to playing in Dice with 98.5% of winning, we can see that in a long time playing, the red streak become obvious and continue to become frequent the longer we spend time rolling.

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Quote from: chaser15 on September 30, 2022, 10:09:58 AM

Quote from: Wind_FURY on September 30, 2022, 06:50:32 AM

I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available.

Even we don't know these games? Just play on those because of the low house edge?

I think for that kind of the reason I will disagree with you.

Didn't you know that I already experienced lots of times winning in slots? Those stunning graphics when we hit that multipliers or bonus are really exciting as we can expect that a big win is coming for a high chance. I don't play Blackjack because of my small knowledge of the game. Dice seems simple to me. Playing roulette only to play on specific picks seems boring.

I will play based on my own factor disregarding the house edges and RTPs.

Those games are not even hard to understand. I think they are the most basic games when it comes to casino gambling. Those games do also exist offline so many people are already aware on what they look like or on how to place a bet on them. They are perfect for plebs or common people without have a special knowledge.

What is better with them is that they have the lowest house edge but each of us has their own favourites. Once we try some games we can make a judgment if we like them and if we will continue playing on them so it's fine if you don't like the three games offered by the op. Just continue playing with your slots.

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on September 30, 2022, 06:50:32 AM

We're merely plebs, many of us. Although there are also casino whales in the forum, I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack and Craps.

I tried both of them, and my favorite is Craps. For a beginner, just bet on 6 and 8, then if the dice roll is a 7, you lose, if it's 6 or 8 you win. There are other betting strategies to use to increase your bets called "press and collect", but that's for another topic. Cool

The reasoning on why "just place on 6 and 8" is the lower house edge = 1.52%, definitely lower if compared to playing your favorite slot machines.

Plus there are bets with lower house edge in craps, like Pass Line/Come Bet = 1.41%, Don’t Pass/Come = 1.40%.
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Your topic is interesting but at which casino do you play craps currently? Very few live casinos are offering this game actually, because I think it's a little bit complicated to quickly understand all the rules for a beginner.
Regarding the house edge it isn't the lowest among live games if your figures are correct. Blackjack house edge is almost 3 times lower than that, and Baccarat house edge is also lower than 1.5% even without commission and still lower than those figures if you bet on player.
Moreover you can find few slots claiming they have a RTP of 99%, which is hard to check though.

https://www.tangamsystems.com/post/north-america-its-time-to-adopt-no-commission-baccarat

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Quote from: Eternad on September 30, 2022, 09:58:14 AM

In gambling, playing faster to win big is the best to eliminate human error such as impatience that usually trigger the common mistakes of gambler to lose all there bank roll no matter how low the house edge is.

Agreed. It's very, very difficult to stay patient in the gambling world. This is why I personally prefer yolo gambling in the short sessions when compared to utilising gambling strategies for longer sessions.

Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 01, 2022, 05:07:48 AM

Lower house edge = lesser percentage of loss relative to your capital. It's just an advice, but if you want to play any casino game with higher house edge for fun, no one can stop you.

Low house edge games do help slow down your losses and help extend player sessions which is why your advice is helpful for sure though I place more emphasis on the fun aspect.

Truthfully, most gamblers focus on the fun aspect disregarding the house edge completely.

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on September 30, 2022, 06:50:32 AM

We're merely plebs, many of us. Although there are also casino whales in the forum, I believe it's the best advice for everyone, especially plebs, to play only the casino games with the lowest house edge available. BlackJack and Craps.

I tried both of them, and my favorite is Craps. For a beginner, just bet on 6 and 8, then if the dice roll is a 7, you lose, if it's 6 or 8 you win. There are other betting strategies to use to increase your bets called "press and collect", but that's for another topic. Cool

The reasoning on why "just place on 6 and 8" is the lower house edge = 1.52%, definitely lower if compared to playing your favorite slot machines.

So the game don't really matter in the end. It is all about the house edge. If some other casino provides a lower house edge than 1.52% then it will be a better game than craps. You named a betting strategy there but I am pretty sure you already know by now that these strategies are worthless. When you play a luck based game these strategies/algos only make you lose for sure because the house edge becomes more and more effective as long as you keep playing.

The only and the best way to avoid getting caught by the house edge is playing less and wagering all your bankroll.

If the house edge is 1.5%, that means on a x2 game, you'll have 48.5% chance to win that bet. That chance is definitely not small. You can fool math if you play once as 48.5% and 51.5% are pretty damn close but if you don't stop and keep playing that you'll lose.

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on October 01, 2022, 05:07:48 AM

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Quote from: bitbollo on September 30, 2022, 12:10:06 PM

Casino games should be used very carefully because it's really easy lost money on it...

I'll try to play just if there is some bonus or some wagering competition, unless I am playing just for the pleasure to play nothing more Sad

I never expect to win and unfortunately this should the right approach because in the long term I can just loss Sad

House edge, a lower house edge is something helpful for the player, but it's a mathematical explanation that in the long term I can only loss money Sad

Good advice! That's why, IF YOU, or SOMEONE, wants to gamble in a casino, which games should they choose? The casinos games with lower house edge. Cool

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From my point of view, I don't play for "earn" or thinking that I can won some good amounts from my casino games. I don't have the expectation to have some return, so since I am just playing for the fun so "any" games is suitable.... basic have the right mindset and a defined budget. I find very boring slots, definitely more fun BlackJack or Roulette.
However for a "high roller" or a player that wager a lot, it's always important have a look on house edge!

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