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I myself have exercised self-control to be able to stop and control my emotions while playing gambling, but it was difficult because curiosity arose and I wanted to win in this game or bet.
Indeed, you can stop for a few minutes to calm yourself and your mind, but in the end, after that, it's back to playing and that's what I always do.
Maybe losing all the money and not having anything can make someone stop gambling in an instant and for quite a long time, especially if you don't have a source of income, you can be sure that you will never enter the world of gambling again.

It is because your brain has already forced itself to remember that gambling gives you pleasure, and the nerves at the region in your brain that controls the release of feel-good hormones whenever you gamble has already been wired to respond to gambling positively. It's incredibly difficult to go against your brain when it comes pleasure, as it's extremely hard to curb whatever activities give you pleasure because your brain will always choose the one that you feel the most pleasure in. Even if you lose a lot of money in gambling, your brain will always claw back in to getting your feel, hence why you feel addicted to gambling even though you don't have any means to gamble. You may feel bad at first, but these feelings of regret cannot really overwhelm the feeling of pleasure that your brain wants to get.

I would think that the desire to attain more or to recover what has been lost in the past would also factor into a problem habit. The best way to stop something that is unhealthy is to cut off the source and to seek support to keep the source away. Over time it will be easier to stay away and reflection of any damage caused may become strength to stay away over a long term. I think this also applies to other vices such as drugs.

For gambling specifically, like you said, one of the ways to easily get addicted is to chase after loses, this is one of the most effective way to get addicted to gambling without even knowing, and before you know it, it has already become a habit the individual involved can not do without.
And also, from my own personal experience, one way to avoid chasing after loses in gambling is to always take some time off gambling when ever you feel you have lost some amount of money you weren't prepaid to loose, this will help you heal quicker and also put away any urge that would want to push you or give you the idea of gambling more to win your loss back.

I agree with your first statement completely. I think that the best way to win against gambling though, is not to. More often than not the house will win. Even if one does win, it will go back to the house in the long run. It can be said that it is healthy if it is a guilty pleasure or an occasional enjoyment...but this is the same as skating on thin ice of it very easily becoming unhealthy. No gambling, no stress. In my opinion, the time and emotional toll spent gambling would be better spent into more fulfilling things or better opportunities!

I am clear that the game in casinos one can never beat the house, the house always has the advantage and the games themselves are designed to always have an advantage over the house (another advantage aside) that is known, therefore When we decide to have action with a casino, what we should keep in mind is that not everything is like gold, that all that glitters is gold, no, things can be very nice here but the reality is different, besides a casino It cannot become an ATM, people who win once are because they are very lucky or because they have lost many times.

Correct me if I'm wrong, as far as I know, playing Casino is an interesting thing, but there are things we should avoid, namely the desire to play with large amounts of money, and that risks losing or vice versa, even if only a few percent of the winnings are obtained, it's the same amount. the losses you get will be even bigger than the winnings, of course it won't be balanced, because the system has been designed to give victory to users in winning, so it's the same as our brains are forced to fight the machine, in my opinion that's what must be avoided gamblers to play with big capital, it's better to play just for fun than to play with ambition..

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I also have a friend who has that same light, and I still don't understand how he does it, the most important thing is that he currently does not have a permanent job and does not play, where he is luckier and wins or at least remains in the His first matches is in poker, I don't know how he does it, and when it comes to games it's in pool, in pool he's very good and I don't know, he's lucky enough to do things right, he tells me how to do it, but he doesn't really I can make the plays that he does, he thinks very differently, and I don't understand how he doesn't play because he's quite lucky and it's something he has, but it's very difficult to learn from people like that because as a person you have to change your way of seeing the game.

If your friend plays poker, then it's understandable because poker is a game of skill, and luck plays insignificant part in it, especially in the long run. Looking from outside, it may seem that he is lucky most the time, but in fact he just knows the probabilities, and that's why he is "lucky". And you are right, it's very difficult to learn from people like him. I'd say, it's almost impossible without a big deal of experience. But someone who loves poker there is a chance. Wink

That's the way it is, I think he uses probabilities, and the worst thing is that he's not someone who's going to play it, I know that he uses a lot of some abilities that he has, I thought he was just lucky, one of the things he told me is that he Sometimes he assumed that such a player had such a game, and that made him very eager to play a bet or to do something like assuming such a thing, however what strikes me is that the knowledge is such that it assures me that when He always plays, he wins something, if he doesn't come first, he comes in at least 3rd place, he tells me that now there aren't as many games as before, poker tournaments, and that's something that has made him stop playing games of chance a lot.

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on January 30, 2023, 02:10:41 AM

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It's probably also the same when you're trading cryptocurrencies. The thrill of taking a risk in a shitcoin will perhaps release more dopamines in your brain than buying Bitcoin, then sitting on your hands for the HODL. Hahaha.
It might also be why 90% of people trying to "trade" lose their capital because they can't stop themselves from looking for their next dopamine rush.

That's correct. But need for dopamine so hard coded into us that quitting smoking was easier then now chasing a new rush.
I think i've found a way to control mine now. It sounds silly but it's just sticking into basics and routine. When basics are in check i can treat myself with gambling.

And by basics i mean i manage my budget, exercise, work, eat healthy, sleep more and do work for my relationships. When those are in check i am less addicted to that rush.

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Quote from: Wind_FURY on January 30, 2023, 02:10:41 AM

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It's probably also the same when you're trading cryptocurrencies. The thrill of taking a risk in a shitcoin will perhaps release more dopamines in your brain than buying Bitcoin, then sitting on your hands for the HODL. Hahaha.

It might also be why 90% of people trying to "trade" lose their capital because they can't stop themselves from looking for their next dopamine rush.

And probably also it's the same with any other risky activity that can potentially give you a big reward. Those are the tricks our mind plays with us. The thing is that our brain has not changed since tens of thousands of years ago, and this behaviour, always taking the risk to potentially get something big, was the right one for our survival for many thousand of years because there were no slot machines, no crypto trading, and we, humans, rarely had this opportunity to get a fortune of a lifetime within one day.

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Though I agree that it's a good idea to set aside money specifically for gambling, I also think it's crucial to have some kind of accountability mechanism in place to ensure that you don't end up gambling away all your savings. Having someone to confide in and keep you responsible may be invaluable in preventing a slide into addiction, whether it's a friend, family member, or a group of people sharing the same goals.

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what you say is absolutely true and that is what I experienced before when I was crushed at gambling.
I once told a long story in one of the threads on this gambling about my past destruction when I became a crazy gambler. but long story short everything changed when I was completely devastated when I wasn't married. and I'm trying to get married and stay away from gambling and the result is that I keep coming back to gambling, but it's different from before when I'm currently gambling more committed to the budget that I have set and every time I gamble there is a wife who says "remember, just spend the rest of the money ". so indirectly my self-control on addiction is more awake with the presence of a wife who supports me, always gives advice when I'm betting. so that there is no more chance to become a crazy gambling addict.

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Though I agree that it's a good idea to set aside money specifically for gambling, I also think it's crucial to have some kind of accountability mechanism in place to ensure that you don't end up gambling away all your savings. Having someone to confide in and keep you responsible may be invaluable in preventing a slide into addiction, whether it's a friend, family member, or a group of people sharing the same goals.

Moreover, it's incredible that despite having failures, you've managed to stay to your budget and not let addiction take over. That's a powerful display of resolve, and I have no doubt that you'll keep making progress along your chosen path.

It's also crucial to note that if you ever find yourself struggling with a temptation to gamble that seems out of control, it's time to get some professional assistance. Counseling and support groups are just two examples of the various options accessible to those who are ready to get their lives back on track after struggling with addiction.

The problem is that a player who is highly addicted to gambling can of course try to set himself limits on money to lose, for example, per day or per week.
But as soon as he loses so that the money set by the limit runs out, he immediately begins to experience extreme discomfort. And he starts to come up with something, like that the next day the limit will make itself smaller.
And still continues to bet. I think a lot of people who are heavily addicted to gambling simply can't stop with something as simple as setting individual limits on losing. Or there must be absolutely iron, steel willpower.
With a strong addiction, you still cannot do without the help of specialists, doctors and psychologists.
Possibly psychotropic drugs. But this is only by prescription of doctors.

When I play I think that the worst thing is to fall into addiction, for these reasons I don't play much, and I am afraid of losing money, so I am always very careful, when I deposit in a casino it is not a lot of money, but I divide it so that I can play several days, and as I am always looking for casinos where they offer good promotions, sometimes I am entertained and the money is there in the casino, the fact of having diversity in casinos can encourage addiction, that would be advice for others Yes players, I don't have a lot of experience but as long as I can avoid addiction to people it is a way of contributing so that they don't fall for it.

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I myself have exercised self-control to be able to stop and control my emotions while playing gambling, but it was difficult because curiosity arose and I wanted to win in this game or bet.
Indeed, you can stop for a few minutes to calm yourself and your mind, but in the end, after that, it's back to playing and that's what I always do.
Maybe losing all the money and not having anything can make someone stop gambling in an instant and for quite a long time, especially if you don't have a source of income, you can be sure that you will never enter the world of gambling again.

It is because your brain has already forced itself to remember that gambling gives you pleasure, and the nerves at the region in your brain that controls the release of feel-good hormones whenever you gamble has already been wired to respond to gambling positively. It's incredibly difficult to go against your brain when it comes pleasure, as it's extremely hard to curb whatever activities give you pleasure because your brain will always choose the one that you feel the most pleasure in. Even if you lose a lot of money in gambling, your brain will always claw back in to getting your feel, hence why you feel addicted to gambling even though you don't have any means to gamble. You may feel bad at first, but these feelings of regret cannot really overwhelm the feeling of pleasure that your brain wants to get.

I would think that the desire to attain more or to recover what has been lost in the past would also factor into a problem habit. The best way to stop something that is unhealthy is to cut off the source and to seek support to keep the source away. Over time it will be easier to stay away and reflection of any damage caused may become strength to stay away over a long term. I think this also applies to other vices such as drugs.

For gambling specifically, like you said, one of the ways to easily get addicted is to chase after loses, this is one of the most effective way to get addicted to gambling without even knowing, and before you know it, it has already become a habit the individual involved can not do without.
And also, from my own personal experience, one way to avoid chasing after loses in gambling is to always take some time off gambling when ever you feel you have lost some amount of money you weren't prepaid to loose, this will help you heal quicker and also put away any urge that would want to push you or give you the idea of gambling more to win your loss back.

I agree with your first statement completely. I think that the best way to win against gambling though, is not to. More often than not the house will win. Even if one does win, it will go back to the house in the long run. It can be said that it is healthy if it is a guilty pleasure or an occasional enjoyment...but this is the same as skating on thin ice of it very easily becoming unhealthy. No gambling, no stress. In my opinion, the time and emotional toll spent gambling would be better spent into more fulfilling things or better opportunities!

Like smoking, not all people are equally affected or driven towards the same issues when gambling. Some just do it for fun and have plenty of control abouit what they do an how much they spend. So, the games do not matter as much as the person who is making conscious decisions or becoming somehow carried away by the game.

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Though I agree that it's a good idea to set aside money specifically for gambling, I also think it's crucial to have some kind of accountability mechanism in place to ensure that you don't end up gambling away all your savings. Having someone to confide in and keep you responsible may be invaluable in preventing a slide into addiction, whether it's a friend, family member, or a group of people sharing the same goals.

Moreover, it's incredible that despite having failures, you've managed to stay to your budget and not let addiction take over. That's a powerful display of resolve, and I have no doubt that you'll keep making progress along your chosen path.

It's also crucial to note that if you ever find yourself struggling with a temptation to gamble that seems out of control, it's time to get some professional assistance. Counseling and support groups are just two examples of the various options accessible to those who are ready to get their lives back on track after struggling with addiction.

The problem is that a player who is highly addicted to gambling can of course try to set himself limits on money to lose, for example, per day or per week.
But as soon as he loses so that the money set by the limit runs out, he immediately begins to experience extreme discomfort. And he starts to come up with something, like that the next day the limit will make itself smaller.
And still continues to bet. I think a lot of people who are heavily addicted to gambling simply can't stop with something as simple as setting individual limits on losing. Or there must be absolutely iron, steel willpower.
With a strong addiction, you still cannot do without the help of specialists, doctors and psychologists.
Possibly psychotropic drugs. But this is only by prescription of doctors.

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the only Emotion we must bring in gambling is enjoyment and happiness and not that greedy and self centered because that will surely bring us to losing there are many people I knew that they keep chasing losses because they cannot take being loser and then what happened?
they continues to lose and even losing everything because of that emotions.
try figuring yourself first before entering casino.

The start of the problem is if you play with high expectation. Due to this you are probably not prepared for the worse case that can happen. Some gamblers are playing even it's not a spare money because they want to grow it instantly and not aware of the risk for doing so.

it is ok to expect higher but also learn how to accept defeat because this is the main problem here , many of us only wanted to win in gambling but does not consider that losing is what mostly happens and wins are just a bit.

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If you're a pleb, you can still gamble and enjoy the games that can entertain you but don't gamble with an expectation to win because, often, the result that we anticipate is far from what's bound to happen. So just have fun and control yourself to only play within your limits.

wrong, winning is part of gambling and only stupid people does not expect this whenever they played , but this is not how it works ,try to expect win and also try to listen to losses.

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We have seen many gamblers who have lost everything because of gambling but have not said they will stop and instead want to recover all their losses by borrowing money or other ways. And if we don't learn better self-control, we're bound to have a gambling addiction problem that begins with uncontrolled greed.

at this point, sometimes when a gambler has started to feel the seeds of addiction in him starting to feel, he will immediately stop gambling or only control every budget he wants to bet on.
but if a gambler already feels that there are seeds of gambling addiction and chooses to commit to always planning a budget for gambling, usually he will not stop gambling, in fact he will gamble more often, only with a predetermined budget and when he loses he leaves the casino and does not continue gambling

like my own case in the past I felt there were seeds of addiction and I didn't choose to leave gambling but preferred to keep gambling but only committed to a budget plan for gambling. even though i lost and ran out of budget, i quit and came back the next day and that's what i've done to this day.
so at this point I say that I have not completely been able to stop gambling addicts

As long as he can have good self-control, I think he can still control himself in gambling and with the budget, he has made before, he can also enjoy gambling time. We must hold on to commitment whenever we gamble and never cross the boundaries we have made to survive well and not experience any problems in gambling.

I think many of us have had the same experience as you and I know there are still many people trying to commit to avoid any problems. This is hard to do, but we have to do it if we don't want to experience problems like gambling addiction.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on January 31, 2023, 02:00:19 AM

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We have seen many gamblers who have lost everything because of gambling but have not said they will stop and instead want to recover all their losses by borrowing money or other ways. And if we don't learn better self-control, we're bound to have a gambling addiction problem that begins with uncontrolled greed.

at this point, sometimes when a gambler has started to feel the seeds of addiction in him starting to feel, he will immediately stop gambling or only control every budget he wants to bet on.
but if a gambler already feels that there are seeds of gambling addiction and chooses to commit to always planning a budget for gambling, usually he will not stop gambling, in fact he will gamble more often, only with a predetermined budget and when he loses he leaves the casino and does not continue gambling

like my own case in the past I felt there were seeds of addiction and I didn't choose to leave gambling but preferred to keep gambling but only committed to a budget plan for gambling. even though i lost and ran out of budget, i quit and came back the next day and that's what i've done to this day.
so at this point I say that I have not completely been able to stop gambling addicts

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I myself have exercised self-control to be able to stop and control my emotions while playing gambling, but it was difficult because curiosity arose and I wanted to win in this game or bet.
Indeed, you can stop for a few minutes to calm yourself and your mind, but in the end, after that, it's back to playing and that's what I always do.
Maybe losing all the money and not having anything can make someone stop gambling in an instant and for quite a long time, especially if you don't have a source of income, you can be sure that you will never enter the world of gambling again.

It is because your brain has already forced itself to remember that gambling gives you pleasure, and the nerves at the region in your brain that controls the release of feel-good hormones whenever you gamble has already been wired to respond to gambling positively. It's incredibly difficult to go against your brain when it comes pleasure, as it's extremely hard to curb whatever activities give you pleasure because your brain will always choose the one that you feel the most pleasure in. Even if you lose a lot of money in gambling, your brain will always claw back in to getting your feel, hence why you feel addicted to gambling even though you don't have any means to gamble. You may feel bad at first, but these feelings of regret cannot really overwhelm the feeling of pleasure that your brain wants to get.

I would think that the desire to attain more or to recover what has been lost in the past would also factor into a problem habit. The best way to stop something that is unhealthy is to cut off the source and to seek support to keep the source away. Over time it will be easier to stay away and reflection of any damage caused may become strength to stay away over a long term. I think this also applies to other vices such as drugs.

For gambling specifically, like you said, one of the ways to easily get addicted is to chase after loses, this is one of the most effective way to get addicted to gambling without even knowing, and before you know it, it has already become a habit the individual involved can not do without.
And also, from my own personal experience, one way to avoid chasing after loses in gambling is to always take some time off gambling when ever you feel you have lost some amount of money you weren't prepaid to loose, this will help you heal quicker and also put away any urge that would want to push you or give you the idea of gambling more to win your loss back.

I agree with your first statement completely. I think that the best way to win against gambling though, is not to. More often than not the house will win. Even if one does win, it will go back to the house in the long run. It can be said that it is healthy if it is a guilty pleasure or an occasional enjoyment...but this is the same as skating on thin ice of it very easily becoming unhealthy. No gambling, no stress. In my opinion, the time and emotional toll spent gambling would be better spent into more fulfilling things or better opportunities!

I am clear that the game in casinos one can never beat the house, the house always has the advantage and the games themselves are designed to always have an advantage over the house (another advantage aside) that is known, therefore When we decide to have action with a casino, what we should keep in mind is that not everything is like gold, that all that glitters is gold, no, things can be very nice here but the reality is different, besides a casino It cannot become an ATM, people who win once are because they are very lucky or because they have lost many times.

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Quote from: len01 on January 30, 2023, 02:46:27 AM

as i said in previous reply it is going to be very difficult for too crazy gambling addicts. because the gambling addict who has gone crazy in gambling never thinks about anything, all he thinks about is gambling and gambling.
no matter how many people would advise him to stop gambling and try to learn self-control. i have a few examples.

in my city there was a gambler who was crazy in gambling, until he sold all valuables and after that sold his friend's belongings, until what was worse he stole cars just to gamble.
well, in cases like that I mean it will be much more difficult to learn self-control.

It's a shame that no one can awaken these crazy gamblers because they are already experiencing a very severe gambling addiction and don't want to change in a better direction. People like this should get more help and attention, but we also can't do anything about it because they themselves don't want that help.

If that were the case, learning self-control would be more difficult for him because he did not want to change his life. But before it's too late, they already know that he has seeds of gambling addiction and must cure it before everything gets worse.

Quote from: klidex on January 30, 2023, 02:55:27 AM

Greed is always there and it's a natural trait that everyone has, not just gamblers.
Greedy nature is even more difficult to avoid and eliminate because it appears suddenly when someone is at the peak of his glory.
Many gamblers experience losses and lose all their money and even their wealth because one of the reasons is none other than greed or dissatisfaction with something that has been obtained and wanting more.
One of the ways that we don't lose money because of the appearance of greed is also like what I said before, namely immediately withdrawing all the wins you get and even if you want to leave only a few.

That's why we really have to have or learn self-control so that we can control that greed doesn't get bigger and, in the end, it will destroy our lives in gambling. However difficult it is, we must always control ourselves when playing gambling so that we can stop ourselves when we have won a big win.

We have seen many gamblers who have lost everything because of gambling but have not said they will stop and instead want to recover all their losses by borrowing money or other ways. And if we don't learn better self-control, we're bound to have a gambling addiction problem that begins with uncontrolled greed.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on January 28, 2023, 12:15:35 AM

You must remember nothing is impossible if you already have a strong desire. You have to do this if you really want to learn to control yourself in gambling so that you are not controlled by desire or the feeling of wanting to gamble without stopping. I'm sure you can do it and all you need to do is take one step and keep going to keep trying.

Desire to win? are you sure that it is controllable ? wrong mate desire in gambling is also depending on what it is , either desire to be instant millionaire or just to enjoy and have fun.

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I also can't completely stop gambling, but I'm glad I can now control myself when gambling. When I feel like I've had enough, I will immediately stop and leave the casino without any feeling of wanting to continue gambling again. You can do it too. I believe in you.

I have completely allow myself to play or not , and indeed I can control my desire in gambling , and also I can stand in table while winning .

Controlling your desire in gambling is a very important aspect that we need to consider or else we might end up taking the wrong part. There are some persons that do not have a job or have a job but depend on gambling for survival. We need to make sure even with our different problems to ensure we control our urge not to become a chronic gambler.

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I myself have exercised self-control to be able to stop and control my emotions while playing gambling, but it was difficult because curiosity arose and I wanted to win in this game or bet.
Indeed, you can stop for a few minutes to calm yourself and your mind, but in the end, after that, it's back to playing and that's what I always do.
Maybe losing all the money and not having anything can make someone stop gambling in an instant and for quite a long time, especially if you don't have a source of income, you can be sure that you will never enter the world of gambling again.

It is because your brain has already forced itself to remember that gambling gives you pleasure, and the nerves at the region in your brain that controls the release of feel-good hormones whenever you gamble has already been wired to respond to gambling positively. It's incredibly difficult to go against your brain when it comes pleasure, as it's extremely hard to curb whatever activities give you pleasure because your brain will always choose the one that you feel the most pleasure in. Even if you lose a lot of money in gambling, your brain will always claw back in to getting your feel, hence why you feel addicted to gambling even though you don't have any means to gamble. You may feel bad at first, but these feelings of regret cannot really overwhelm the feeling of pleasure that your brain wants to get.

I would think that the desire to attain more or to recover what has been lost in the past would also factor into a problem habit. The best way to stop something that is unhealthy is to cut off the source and to seek support to keep the source away. Over time it will be easier to stay away and reflection of any damage caused may become strength to stay away over a long term. I think this also applies to other vices such as drugs.

For gambling specifically, like you said, one of the ways to easily get addicted is to chase after loses, this is one of the most effective way to get addicted to gambling without even knowing, and before you know it, it has already become a habit the individual involved can not do without.
And also, from my own personal experience, one way to avoid chasing after loses in gambling is to always take some time off gambling when ever you feel you have lost some amount of money you weren't prepaid to loose, this will help you heal quicker and also put away any urge that would want to push you or give you the idea of gambling more to win your loss back.

I agree with your first statement completely. I think that the best way to win against gambling though, is not to. More often than not the house will win. Even if one does win, it will go back to the house in the long run. It can be said that it is healthy if it is a guilty pleasure or an occasional enjoyment...but this is the same as skating on thin ice of it very easily becoming unhealthy. No gambling, no stress. In my opinion, the time and emotional toll spent gambling would be better spent into more fulfilling things or better opportunities!

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You can do it because you already have a stronger willingness to control yourself in gambling. After you have played enough gambling, leave the casino immediately and don't even think about starting one more round. Whatever the outcome, you must immediately stop gambling. We'll see how it goes in 1 month. I am sure you can do it.

I understand what you mean and this action really needs to be done in order to keep the victory we get from disappearing in an instant as a result of greed and a lack of gratitude for what has been obtained.
In the past, I used to only have a capital of $ 8 playing in one of the games in a trusted casino that I have used since I first gambled at a crypto casino, I managed to win the game round after round for about 90 minutes and was able to collect at least $ 300 more and that it was a fortune for me because indeed the money that I had in the casino's wallet was only $ 8 left.
But because of greed I lost everything and even left the game with no money left.
From that experience I began to learn that every victory we have to withdraw first before it really runs out without anything left.

In the past, we had great luck at gambling which allowed us to earn a lot of money and I think that also happened to many gamblers. And I agree with you that greed can arise after we can get a lot of money so it will trigger us to keep playing and ultimately lose everything. And again, that has happened to many people and even today, greed still happens to people. It's better to withdraw that big win before we spend it at the gambling table because greed comes.

Greed is always there and it's a natural trait that everyone has, not just gamblers.
Greedy nature is even more difficult to avoid and eliminate because it appears suddenly when someone is at the peak of his glory.
Many gamblers experience losses and lose all their money and even their wealth because one of the reasons is none other than greed or dissatisfaction with something that has been obtained and wanting more.
One of the ways that we don't lose money because of the appearance of greed is also like what I said before, namely immediately withdrawing all the wins you get and even if you want to leave only a few.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on January 30, 2023, 01:54:36 AM

Quote from: len01 on January 29, 2023, 11:37:50 AM

Quote from: ethereumhunter on January 29, 2023, 01:46:34 AM

The desire to gamble will indeed exist in that person but if his self-control is very good, he will be able to control himself better. He will not become addicted to gambling again because he has seen the consequences he has experienced before. He must commit to preventing gambling addiction so that he can play comfortably without worrying that he will experience something similar again.

Learning self-control in gambling will never be easy because of greed and wanting more. That is why many people fail to learn it. This is a challenge for us so that we don't experience the same thing as other people and can prevent gambling addiction.

commitment and self-control, two things that are difficult for gambling addicts.
but usually these two statements can be carried out supported by the encouragement of something that makes gambling addicts able to hold on to commitments and always learn to control themselves. this urge usually comes from gambling stories in a very dark past and deciding to learn to control yourself and always plan a budget on gambling and think of gambling as a game for fun.
even though it was really difficult but I am one example who had a bad past in gambling and now I can commit to gambling and stop being a crazy gambling addict.

Indeed, commitment and self-control are difficult things, but it all depends on the gambler. To improve his life, he must have a strong desire to change it and consistently stick to it. If he didn't start now, when else would he be able to start it and if he started it late, he would have a hard time trying it. And ultimately, he will fail to learn about commitment and self-control. If you want, do it now before you regret it later.

as i said in previous reply it is going to be very difficult for too crazy gambling addicts. because the gambling addict who has gone crazy in gambling never thinks about anything, all he thinks about is gambling and gambling.
no matter how many people would advise him to stop gambling and try to learn self-control. i have a few examples.

in my city there was a gambler who was crazy in gambling, until he sold all valuables and after that sold his friend's belongings, until what was worse he stole cars just to gamble.
well, in cases like that I mean it will be much more difficult to learn self-control.

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Quote from: BenCodie on January 30, 2023, 02:22:05 AM

Quote from: dothebeats on January 27, 2023, 10:32:14 AM

Quote from: klidex on January 26, 2023, 10:15:41 AM

I myself have exercised self-control to be able to stop and control my emotions while playing gambling, but it was difficult because curiosity arose and I wanted to win in this game or bet.
Indeed, you can stop for a few minutes to calm yourself and your mind, but in the end, after that, it's back to playing and that's what I always do.
Maybe losing all the money and not having anything can make someone stop gambling in an instant and for quite a long time, especially if you don't have a source of income, you can be sure that you will never enter the world of gambling again.

It is because your brain has already forced itself to remember that gambling gives you pleasure, and the nerves at the region in your brain that controls the release of feel-good hormones whenever you gamble has already been wired to respond to gambling positively. It's incredibly difficult to go against your brain when it comes pleasure, as it's extremely hard to curb whatever activities give you pleasure because your brain will always choose the one that you feel the most pleasure in. Even if you lose a lot of money in gambling, your brain will always claw back in to getting your feel, hence why you feel addicted to gambling even though you don't have any means to gamble. You may feel bad at first, but these feelings of regret cannot really overwhelm the feeling of pleasure that your brain wants to get.

I would think that the desire to attain more or to recover what has been lost in the past would also factor into a problem habit. The best way to stop something that is unhealthy is to cut off the source and to seek support to keep the source away. Over time it will be easier to stay away and reflection of any damage caused may become strength to stay away over a long term. I think this also applies to other vices such as drugs.

For gambling specifically, like you said, one of the ways to easily get addicted is to chase after loses, this is one of the most effective way to get addicted to gambling without even knowing, and before you know it, it has already become a habit the individual involved can not do without.
And also, from my own personal experience, one way to avoid chasing after loses in gambling is to always take some time off gambling when ever you feel you have lost some amount of money you weren't prepaid to loose, this will help you heal quicker and also put away any urge that would want to push you or give you the idea of gambling more to win your loss back.

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Quote from: dothebeats on January 27, 2023, 10:32:14 AM

Quote from: klidex on January 26, 2023, 10:15:41 AM

I myself have exercised self-control to be able to stop and control my emotions while playing gambling, but it was difficult because curiosity arose and I wanted to win in this game or bet.
Indeed, you can stop for a few minutes to calm yourself and your mind, but in the end, after that, it's back to playing and that's what I always do.
Maybe losing all the money and not having anything can make someone stop gambling in an instant and for quite a long time, especially if you don't have a source of income, you can be sure that you will never enter the world of gambling again.

It is because your brain has already forced itself to remember that gambling gives you pleasure, and the nerves at the region in your brain that controls the release of feel-good hormones whenever you gamble has already been wired to respond to gambling positively. It's incredibly difficult to go against your brain when it comes pleasure, as it's extremely hard to curb whatever activities give you pleasure because your brain will always choose the one that you feel the most pleasure in. Even if you lose a lot of money in gambling, your brain will always claw back in to getting your feel, hence why you feel addicted to gambling even though you don't have any means to gamble. You may feel bad at first, but these feelings of regret cannot really overwhelm the feeling of pleasure that your brain wants to get.

I would think that the desire to attain more or to recover what has been lost in the past would also factor into a problem habit. The best way to stop something that is unhealthy is to cut off the source and to seek support to keep the source away. Over time it will be easier to stay away and reflection of any damage caused may become strength to stay away over a long term. I think this also applies to other vices such as drugs.

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Quote from: dothebeats on January 27, 2023, 10:32:14 AM

Quote from: klidex on January 26, 2023, 10:15:41 AM

I myself have exercised self-control to be able to stop and control my emotions while playing gambling, but it was difficult because curiosity arose and I wanted to win in this game or bet.
Indeed, you can stop for a few minutes to calm yourself and your mind, but in the end, after that, it's back to playing and that's what I always do.
Maybe losing all the money and not having anything can make someone stop gambling in an instant and for quite a long time, especially if you don't have a source of income, you can be sure that you will never enter the world of gambling again.

It is because your brain has already forced itself to remember that gambling gives you pleasure, and the nerves at the region in your brain that controls the release of feel-good hormones whenever you gamble has already been wired to respond to gambling positively.

It's DOPAMINE. There was a study that people addicted to gambling, sex, and drugs showed the same patterns under MRI.

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It's incredibly difficult to go against your brain when it comes pleasure, as it's extremely hard to curb whatever activities give you pleasure because your brain will always choose the one that you feel the most pleasure in. Even if you lose a lot of money in gambling, your brain will always claw back in to getting your feel, hence why you feel addicted to gambling even though you don't have any means to gamble. You may feel bad at first, but these feelings of regret cannot really overwhelm the feeling of pleasure that your brain wants to get.

It's probably also the same when you're trading cryptocurrencies. The thrill of taking a risk in a shitcoin will perhaps release more dopamines in your brain than buying Bitcoin, then sitting on your hands for the HODL. Hahaha.

It might also be why 90% of people trying to "trade" lose their capital because they can't stop themselves from looking for their next dopamine rush.

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