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Quote from: milewilda on February 21, 2017, 07:51:53 AM

This is not surprising anymore and those newbies are saying those things just to troll or destroy the reputation of those reputable casino but not all newbies saying lies and if they could able to show proofs then those casino sites does really cheat specially on big amounts of winnings. Accusing without any proofs isn't valid at all.

Here you go:

Quote from: gully on February 19, 2017, 03:00:28 AM

They were caught cheating cards on Blackjack, video evidence below.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1EiWvN11nU#t=02m

PLEASE, PLEASE DO NOT BET.

And then once it has been proven with physical evidence and they knew they would lose if brought up on charges in a court of law this happen:

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It is funny how people are so quick to assume before smelling their own ass.
Truely pathetic..... TRUELY! Angry

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This is not surprising anymore and those newbies are saying those things just to troll or destroy the reputation of those reputable casino but not all newbies saying lies and if they could able to show proofs then those casino sites does really cheat specially on big amounts of winnings. Accusing without any proofs isn't valid at all.

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Quote from: freedomgo on February 21, 2017, 01:29:49 AM

That's a lessons learned, we gamblers should not just bet on new casinos with less volume since they can easily give up their reputation and will not pay our winnings. Site has their limit in terms of bets and winnings so they can control how much they can lose also as rare things happen like a gambler hitting a jackpot.
However, under the above scenario they have the control of your account and they can shut down your account easily.

The later effect that they failed to think of is they lose their reputation, and when they slowly lose it, they slowly loses their clients as well until business will go bankrupt.

Checking the volume first is really the first thing that i checked when i tried to play on a certain casino and you are right you could really say that a casino might give you problems later on specially when you won big amounts.Infact its not really an ideal thing for them not to pay on a few btc because reputation can be easily break up which leads to bankruptcy.

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Quote from: ralle14 on February 20, 2017, 11:31:37 AM

You can find more scam reports at the scam accusation board. Imo I don't think mbitcasino is scamming but it's somewhat their fault for not showing the rules from the casino or like having a t&c when you register at the site The second link that you shared it might be the game provider that was cheating.

Yes, I agree they aren't scamming. I read the thread and I guess it is just a hard situation there between a casino and a user. I guess the best solution there would be to pay him half of the money, for example, because maybe he really wasn't using multiple accounts and it were his friends. I'm talking about all kinds of reports, I mean, maybe people get more suspicious nowadays about casinos.

Quote from: BlockEye on February 20, 2017, 09:11:31 AM

We can't guarantee that a trusted casino running for long years will not gonna scam in future. In everyy situation, there is always a posibilty for to scam because the owner is anonymous. So if his site have been bankrupt, there is a huge possibility of scamming customer.

I totally agree with that. Moreover, a casino can be nice, then fairly accused of scamming and then be sort of trusted by many users again like betcoin.ag. I know people who still work for them and gamble on their site as if that jackpot story never took place.

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That's a lessons learned, we gamblers should not just bet on new casinos with less volume since they can easily give up their reputation and will not pay our winnings. Site has their limit in terms of bets and winnings so they can control how much they can lose also as rare things happen like a gambler hitting a jackpot.
However, under the above scenario they have the control of your account and they can shut down your account easily.

The later effect that they failed to think of is they lose their reputation, and when they slowly lose it, they slowly loses their clients as well until business will go bankrupt.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on February 20, 2017, 05:22:22 AM

Over the past few days I have noticed a lot of threads about casinos cheating or not paying the winners. Just to name a few:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/delete-1796416
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17907328
Is it just me or did you notice that there weren't so many threads like this before? What is it about? Are casinos now scamming more than before? Or is it just a coincidence? What do you think about it?
Sometimes such reports are made by newbies for the sake of activity, I guess, because they say that trusted casinos didn't pay them:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-fortune-jack-a-scam-or-are-they-legit-1787281
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cetobetocom-is-a-thief-website-1792007
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Wow! i don't really think that they are scam but some of the website that isn't popular are the scammer type but the popular type is a trust worthy website gambling and also the newbies are posting for the sake of their activity but we can't blame them its because they have a point there scamming website its really bad for us gambler's and we are earning and they are cheating so its not really a good thing to us we needed to report them the newbies today are the most well thinking users Cheesy

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Quote from: ralle14 on February 20, 2017, 11:31:37 AM

Quote from: kryptqnick on February 20, 2017, 05:22:22 AM

Is it just me or did you notice that there weren't so many threads like this before? What is it about? Are casinos now scamming more than before? Or is it just a coincidence? What do you think about it?

You can find more scam reports at the scam accusation board. Imo I don't think mbitcasino is scamming but it's somewhat their fault for not showing the rules from the casino or like having a t&c when you register at the site The second link that you shared it might be the game provider that was cheating.

Definetely. The terms and conditions must be visible when you register and not click the sitemap to see them! LOL

But there is anyway no legally binding agreement, because they don't state the operator in the ToS and you can not have a contract with a domain name.

I read scam accusations every day and I can not say that they rised recently.

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Quote from: Joel_Jantsen on February 20, 2017, 04:03:01 PM

Quote from: arcanaaerobics on February 20, 2017, 03:40:09 PM

Gambling sucks plain and simple.

It's Subjective..

Quote from: arcanaaerobics on February 20, 2017, 03:40:09 PM

Nice to see you being double-sided on the action of posting to promote their signature with you accusing them of shilling for their campaign and the poster just a few posts above of obviously not promoting them at all in what their saying when they decide to bash the campaign they are in.
Well done sir..... well done. Wink

I don't see how that comment is double-sided ? He clearly states that user is posting about awareness and shit when they're hypocritically promoting a scam casino.

Well okay will keep it at this.
I really don't care one way or another.
Just casinos are in all shape and forms are the opioid of bitcoin from where I stand from seeing what is transpiring in the last three weeks of looking into all these big name bitcoin casinos that were around for 5 years all the sudden going scam exit. Out through the side door.
Even a bitdice site has had an issue of losing 55btc and asking for it back just in the past couple of days.
So that right there tells you something is wrong with this whole casino business being online. Sad

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Quote from: arcanaaerobics on February 20, 2017, 03:40:09 PM

Gambling sucks plain and simple.

It's Subjective..

Quote from: arcanaaerobics on February 20, 2017, 03:40:09 PM

Nice to see you being double-sided on the action of posting to promote their signature with you accusing them of shilling for their campaign and the poster just a few posts above of obviously not promoting them at all in what their saying when they decide to bash the campaign they are in.
Well done sir..... well done. Wink

I don't see how that comment is double-sided ? He clearly states that user is posting about awareness and shit when they're hypocritically promoting a scam casino.

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Quote from: Lutpin on February 20, 2017, 03:35:05 PM

Quote from: raphma on February 20, 2017, 10:21:02 AM

i think it still the same, people are getting more "aware" and perceiving more cases. So, it's getting harder for casinos to cheat and they are getting busted more often.

Funny thing to say while wearing Betcoin.AG signature/avatar.

Quote from: arcanaaerobics on February 20, 2017, 03:05:26 PM

They are filthy and don't deserve on bit of remorse from any of us here who earn our income honestly!
Meaning working a 8 hour labor intensive job OUTSIDE in the REAL WORLD people!
Thanks for stopping by . please come again! Wink

If you don't like gambling, don't come by the gambling discussion section.
Do you really need the sig payment that much?

Gambling sucks plain and simple.

Nice to see you being double-sided on the action of posting to promote their signature with you accusing them of shilling for their campaign and the poster just a few posts above of obviously not promoting them at all in what their saying when they decide to bash the campaign they are in.
Well done sir..... well done. Wink

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Quote from: raphma on February 20, 2017, 10:21:02 AM

i think it still the same, people are getting more "aware" and perceiving more cases. So, it's getting harder for casinos to cheat and they are getting busted more often.

Funny thing to say while wearing Betcoin.AG signature/avatar.

Quote from: arcanaaerobics on February 20, 2017, 03:05:26 PM

They are filthy and don't deserve on bit of remorse from any of us here who earn our income honestly!
Meaning working a 8 hour labor intensive job OUTSIDE in the REAL WORLD people!
Thanks for stopping by . please come again! Wink

If you don't like gambling, don't come by the gambling discussion section.
Do you really need the sig payment that much?

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I like to see all these bitcoin casinos burn for what they have been pulling over their customer's eyes from the very start.

Their should be a law suit filed against all of them. No matter what they claim they are not doing.
They must all be put into the same boat, sent to sail and throw a flaming stake to them to watch them all BURN away from scamming anymore of these people's money!

Even these dice sites you all are promoting in your profiles. Angry

They are filthy and don't deserve on bit of remorse from any of us here who earn our income honestly!
Meaning working a 8 hour labor intensive job OUTSIDE in the REAL WORLD people!
Thanks for stopping by . please come again! Wink

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Quote from: kryptqnick on February 20, 2017, 05:22:22 AM

--snipe--

Those are obvious scams.Betcoin.ag is being doin it since ages.Other two casinos aren't as reputed as much and only it takes a fool to send money on such shady looking sites with no history or reputation.
Good Casinos are still doing their business as legitimately as possible.No coincidences to connect.

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You need to analyze every case from different perspective, as some 'casino scammed me' threads are not exactly really telling you full story.

Like in this thread about mBit Casino: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/delete-1796416

Op admitted he created multiple account, but shared them with his roommate. He also collected bonus.
mBit casino has a rule against multi accounting and it is really hard to prove that user is not cheating that system.
So who is to blame here? User - for breaking the rules? Or casino - for not believing his story about shared PC used for gambling?

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Hidden terms & condition and wagering requirement seems to be reason for dispute in majority of case. Along with manual approval of withdrawal also create some panic among new players if the amount is big so they try to create thread to complain about it out of fear rather than contacting casino immediately.

Creating scam accusations against scam casino will help other players to stay away from those shady casino.

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Quote from: kryptqnick on February 20, 2017, 05:22:22 AM

Is it just me or did you notice that there weren't so many threads like this before? What is it about? Are casinos now scamming more than before? Or is it just a coincidence? What do you think about it?

You can find more scam reports at the scam accusation board. Imo I don't think mbitcasino is scamming but it's somewhat their fault for not showing the rules from the casino or like having a t&c when you register at the site The second link that you shared it might be the game provider that was cheating.

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i think it still the same, people are getting more "aware" and perceiving more cases. So, it's getting harder for casinos to cheat and they are getting busted more often.

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Quote from: BlockEye on February 20, 2017, 09:11:31 AM

Quote from: piloder on February 20, 2017, 05:36:04 AM

Trusted casino that are running for years will not cheat any users because one single such event can lead to their end. Each casino have to spend lots of money and time to earn trust from community and they don't like to ruin it for the sake of few bitcoin.

In majority of this claims, the one who have started the thread can't post enough proof to support his/her claim or they just shout out without reading terms and condition of the site and wagering requirement before they can withdraw bonus amount.

However there are also several case of scams by some of the run running casinos but either that will get resolved after some investigation or the owner tries to cover it by paying some compensation to claimers. In worst case they keep running without giving any attention to such claims.

We can't guarantee that a trusted casino running for long years will not gonna scam in future. In everyy situation, there is always a posibilty for to scam because the owner is anonymous. So if his site have been bankrupt, there is a huge possibility of scamming customer.

About the report of newbie about scam accusation.. i think this is a moved by a competitor gambling so that the leading gambling site might fall but this accusation is seldom to happened and expect a report from newbie is always a hoax

No doubt there is big competition between some casinos, and this forum becomes like a field of this competition because it has a lot of gamblers, so the fraud became a weapon to attack others, this fact can be extended to include altcoin sections as well, there are many examples so I am not specifying, but this is a proven fact.

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Quote from: piloder on February 20, 2017, 05:36:04 AM

Trusted casino that are running for years will not cheat any users because one single such event can lead to their end. Each casino have to spend lots of money and time to earn trust from community and they don't like to ruin it for the sake of few bitcoin.

In majority of this claims, the one who have started the thread can't post enough proof to support his/her claim or they just shout out without reading terms and condition of the site and wagering requirement before they can withdraw bonus amount.

However there are also several case of scams by some of the run running casinos but either that will get resolved after some investigation or the owner tries to cover it by paying some compensation to claimers. In worst case they keep running without giving any attention to such claims.

We can't guarantee that a trusted casino running for long years will not gonna scam in future. In everyy situation, there is always a posibilty for to scam because the owner is anonymous. So if his site have been bankrupt, there is a huge possibility of scamming customer.

About the report of newbie about scam accusation.. i think this is a moved by a competitor gambling so that the leading gambling site might fall but this accusation is seldom to happened and expect a report from newbie is always a hoax

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Trusted casino that are running for years will not cheat any users because one single such event can lead to their end. Each casino have to spend lots of money and time to earn trust from community and they don't like to ruin it for the sake of few bitcoin.

In majority of this claims, the one who have started the thread can't post enough proof to support his/her claim or they just shout out without reading terms and condition of the site and wagering requirement before they can withdraw bonus amount.

However there are also several case of scams by some of the run running casinos but either that will get resolved after some investigation or the owner tries to cover it by paying some compensation to claimers. In worst case they keep running without giving any attention to such claims.

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I bet this posts is belong to scam accusations thread. But anyways if this is happening right now(as I don't know about what's happening in crypto gambling world) it seems that scammers now a days are smart enough to tricked people in different ways. But those you mentioned are sites which is not trusted not like as cryptogames nor rollin(as this is the only sites I played and tried and this sites run for so many years already) so most probably there's a big chance that this sites become scam IMO.

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Over the past few days I have noticed a lot of threads about casinos cheating or not paying the winners. Just to name a few:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/delete-1796416
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.17907328
Is it just me or did you notice that there weren't so many threads like this before? What is it about? Are casinos now scamming more than before? Or is it just a coincidence? What do you think about it?
Sometimes such reports are made by newbies for the sake of activity, I guess, because they say that trusted casinos didn't pay them:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/is-fortune-jack-a-scam-or-are-they-legit-1787281
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cetobetocom-is-a-thief-website-1792007

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