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Quote from: Beparanf on December 02, 2024, 09:51:23 AM

I’m wondering why some casino discouraged the full use of VPN while others fully support the use of it.

Regulations.
What's allowed in Florida may possibly be a big offense in Massachusetts, but all in the same county. You don't expect the rules given out by different regulatory bodies to be exactly the same thing, otherwise, there's certain no point of breaking the monopoly -- one body can pass their laws onto every single casino and that's fine.

Again, the said casino isn't really popular -- atleast to me (or maybe I'm a little bit too old to know about them) but they haven't been in system for as long as 10 years. Rule of the game is, the more you GROW, the more you FLOW with the system. I'm not gonna sit there and watch several people struggle to wager on my site but can't, meanwhile, every single bet counts towards the net profits that I make daily, bi-weekly or annually...

So many casinos(without any legal restrictions) are folding up due to the surge in expenses over the net profits, talk more of bringing in the same restrictions when you're not widely known.

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Quote from: Ultegra134 on December 05, 2024, 04:32:47 PM

Perhaps you'll never face any issues, provided that you're not abusing the system in any way or using a free public VPN that may have been used by other users as well.

From my understanding and some post I have came across so far, if a gambling site doesn't specify in their TOS about restrictions/prohibition of vpn then there is nothing wrong with using it, but if they specify and still permit then it could be that your country of access is listed on the site and your location should fit or suits with the country of accessing from. With this there will be no issues and the casino wouldn't hold any issues against you neither would they restricts you from having access to your funds, though for me to avoid drama it's actually good to avoid it entirely.

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Quote from: bias on December 04, 2024, 12:35:21 PM

Quote from: Zwei on December 02, 2024, 02:05:58 PM

Quote from: Beparanf on December 02, 2024, 09:51:23 AM

I’m wondering why some casino discouraged the full use of VPN while others fully support the use of it.

even if a casino claims to be VPN friendly, i wouldn't play there if my country is blocked. they can change their policy at any time, and you would end up fucked.

And there is the catch. They are supposed to promote the VPN but in reality, they are setting a net (of protection or trap, take your pick) from which you cannot escape and you will always depend on their judgment and appetite. They profit from the advertising and the hype that is caused, they force you to go through the KYK for withdrawal (at some point they all do it) and if they consider you shady, they simply change the ToS. It's better not to use a VPN, you get into trouble from the start.

Yes, you’re right, it’s better to avoid using VPN from the start rather than seeing your account getting compromised. After all, anonymity is not an issue anymore. KYC verification is the current trend, whether you like it or not, gamblers should comply with it so they can play on a reputable casino.

However, other casinos might probably promote using VPN, but later on when problems arise, that’s when they have all the right to change and update their ToS.

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Quote from: Nwada001 on December 04, 2024, 05:15:21 PM

The only benefit that I can think of that makes some casinos allow users to use VPNs is as a result of them not being limited by country restrictions that block the citizens from that particular country from gambling. They don't want to miss the traffic and revenue that can be gotten from those people.

For those who don't allow it, they don't want any stress of a gambler trying to outsmart them, especially for those who are banned from using the casino or casinos that are strict with regulation; they don't want to be queried by any government for allowing their citizens access to their casino.

Greece has blocked most, if not all, cryptocurrency casinos, which is why I've resorted to using Cloudflare to mask my IP; I haven't faced any issues so far. I highly doubt that they're banned because they're not secure or regulated, but because they're not receiving taxes from the earnings. Supposedly, most, if not all, casinos prohibit the use of VPNs in their TOS, and it's quite reasonable if you think about it, for ban evasion reasons, multiaccounting, and so on.

Perhaps you'll never face any issues, provided that you're not abusing the system in any way or using a free public VPN that may have been used by other users as well.

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Quote from: CryptSafe on December 02, 2024, 05:20:33 PM

It is rare to see a casino that allows the use of VPN and so far, this is the first casino I have heard or seen allowing her members to use VPN at free will but I am curious to know the defense mechanism the casino have put in place in a situation a country that does no allow gambling comes after them for allowing her citizens gamble on their platform through VPN and they not paying tax for their citizens who uses their casino services. How would the casino handle such situation?

Not only gambling sites but also some other sites too don't allow the use of VPNs. For most of them you get blocked with a prompt that you are making use of a VPN to mask your IP and as a result you cannot proceed since it's against their terms and conditions and you have to turn it off.
Anyways the fact is people that will make use of VPN like you mentioned are actually those that that particular gambling site isn't available in their country or region. Anyways most gambling sites these days try to make their websites available to a more regions to allow for a vast audience.

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Quote from: Beparanf on December 02, 2024, 09:51:23 AM

Just to clarify things, let’s not focus on the casino itself rather the feature of promoting the use of VPN

You heard it right. I’m recently become active on Casinopunkz due to its contest and to explore what I’m promoting on my signature space. Upon exploring, I notice that this casino is actually promoting the use of VPN for privacy purposes which is peculiar in a good way since most of the licensed casino discourage the use of VPN.
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I’m wondering why some casino discouraged the full use of VPN while others fully support the use of it.

Ultimately a casino is going to need to validate the person who is depositing money if they have any reputation worth keeping. In the current climate most will be based in stable countries and that requires disclosing information to regulators who legitimately want to monitor wrong doing. Like it or not, crypto deposits can give criminals a way to "clean" their money by channeling it into sports betting sites or casinos, playing through it a few times and then cashing out - depending on how the casino stores the funds. If they have a copy of unique identity documents, hopefully yours, that include an identity card and utility bill - that can be quite hard to fake or at least it will slow down any abuse on things like bonus promotions.

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Quote from: Beparanf on December 02, 2024, 09:51:23 AM

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I’m wondering why some casino discouraged the full use of VPN while others fully support the use of it.

Does privacy really matters mostly in a gambling site? It’s strange actually they have their reasons and if anything might happen they know how to fix the issue I’m sure. The use of vpn while registering an account can be considered as cheating probably the location is restricted either they prioritize privacy while the casino wants transparency. Not just cheating though, what if something happens in the future should such person blame the casino after violating the rules ? No, Respectfully the use of vpn must be instructed first by the casino although there’s always a reason.

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Quote from: Beparanf on December 02, 2024, 09:51:23 AM

Just to clarify things, let’s not focus on the casino itself rather the feature of promoting the use of VPN

You heard it right. I’m recently become active on Casinopunkz due to its contest and to explore what I’m promoting on my signature space. Upon exploring, I notice that this casino is actually promoting the use of VPN for privacy purposes which is peculiar in a good way since most of the licensed casino discourage the use of VPN.
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I’m wondering why some casino discouraged the full use of VPN while others fully support the use of it.

When we do speak about restrictions or prohibitions of players who do reside in other country then this one talks about legal or regulation issues on which we know that there are indeed platforms who are really that having their own banned list of countries on which arent allowed for them to play on the said platform. If this one is really that trying to tell about using of VPN then it does signifies that they do also have that restriction because if it was really that totally open then it wont really be that having that IP ban but instead they will really be that allowing every player. Assuming out that they do speak about VPN then they do have those licenses and rules that they are following into. Wondering on how they will really be that trying out to cover if ever there are gamblers who do make use of VPN on which this is surely against those terms.

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Quote from: Beparanf on December 02, 2024, 09:51:23 AM

Just to clarify things, let’s not focus on the casino itself rather the feature of promoting the use of VPN

You heard it right. I’m recently become active on Casinopunkz due to its contest and to explore what I’m promoting on my signature space. Upon exploring, I notice that this casino is actually promoting the use of VPN for privacy purposes which is peculiar in a good way since most of the licensed casino discourage the use of VPN.
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I’m wondering why some casino discouraged the full use of VPN while others fully support the use of it.

Everyone have what they want and will always require their users to go by them all, if the platform support for the use of a vpn, then there is nothing bad in doing that, but we must be able to make sure we often check on their ToS in other to know if or when this have been changed or still remains, we cannot just continue in working on assumption, we have to be sure of what we are going for to be valid when it comes to the use of vpn.

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Quote from: irsykes on December 05, 2024, 01:34:26 PM

Quote from: Zwei on December 04, 2024, 01:43:33 PM

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The main procedure of KYC strong personal data is not an excuse. If the reason for VPN I think it doesn't make sense with an account that has been verified with KYC. If you are prohibited from using VPN from the start, at least inform CS not to continue which makes the problem prolonged. If KYC is not a strong reason to take a big win, I think it doesn't make sense. And KYC is useless from that, for example. Because some countries are prohibited from accessing casinos, there should be information action

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Quote from: bias on December 05, 2024, 01:13:58 PM

Quote from: Zwei on December 04, 2024, 01:43:33 PM

not to mention, that most of those "VPN friendly" casinos don't really care if a VPN is being used as long as you are losing...
but as soon as you win big and try to withdraw, they will say you violated the terms and ban you for good, and it's all within their right since you accepted the terms.

Exactly! We have seen more than a lot of cases that casinos use this kind of method, in order to get as much as possible. If not all, since gamblers will play there until they hit something big in order to withdraw and see the bitter truth. I learned it the hard way too and from then on, never again VPN. Cry

The bottom line is avoid using a VPN even if the casino calls it VPN-friendly maybe it's just a sweetener to attract customers but I wouldn't call my words true maybe there's something wrong with it.
What is clear is that there will be many cases like that, and it will be a problem when winning large amounts using a VPN then enforcing the rules according to their wishes and this is difficult to avoid.

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Quote from: bias on December 05, 2024, 01:13:58 PM

Quote from: Zwei on December 04, 2024, 01:43:33 PM

not to mention, that most of those "VPN friendly" casinos don't really care if a VPN is being used as long as you are losing...
but as soon as you win big and try to withdraw, they will say you violated the terms and ban you for good, and it's all within their right since you accepted the terms.

Exactly! We have seen more than a lot of cases that casinos use this kind of method, in order to get as much as possible. If not all, since gamblers will play there until they hit something big in order to withdraw and see the bitter truth. I learned it the hard way too and from then on, never again VPN. Cry

I do agree, they doesn't care if you uses VPN specially if you are losing money. However, there could be changes when they see you suddenly hitting big and then maybe question or have doubts and then they gonna throw in your face the KYC mandatory ToS.

And you can't do anything about it, as in the beginning they could be friendly and so called pro-VPN, but it they have a slight doubts and suspected that something is not right when you win big, then better be ready to have problems when withdrawing. Not necessarily they will get you ban, but they could investigate and will ask for many personal details on you defeating the very purpose of using VPN to hide your identify.

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Quote from: Zwei on December 04, 2024, 01:43:33 PM

Quote from: bias on December 04, 2024, 12:35:21 PM

Quote from: Zwei on December 02, 2024, 02:05:58 PM

even if a casino claims to be VPN friendly, i wouldn't play there if my country is blocked. they can change their policy at any time, and you would end up fucked.

And there is the catch. They are supposed to promote the VPN but in reality, they are setting a net (of protection or trap, take your pick) from which you cannot escape and you will always depend on their judgment and appetite. They profit from the advertising and the hype that is caused, they force you to go through the KYK for withdrawal (at some point they all do it) and if they consider you shady, they simply change the ToS. It's better not to use a VPN, you get into trouble from the start.

not to mention, that most of those "VPN friendly" casinos don't really care if a VPN is being used as long as you are losing...
but as soon as you win big and try to withdraw, they will say you violated the terms and ban you for good, and it's all within their right since you accepted the terms.

The main procedure of KYC strong personal data is not an excuse. If the reason for VPN I think it doesn't make sense with an account that has been verified with KYC. If you are prohibited from using VPN from the start, at least inform CS not to continue which makes the problem prolonged. If KYC is not a strong reason to take a big win, I think it doesn't make sense. And KYC is useless from that, for example. Because some countries are prohibited from accessing casinos, there should be information action

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Quote from: Zwei on December 04, 2024, 01:43:33 PM

not to mention, that most of those "VPN friendly" casinos don't really care if a VPN is being used as long as you are losing...
but as soon as you win big and try to withdraw, they will say you violated the terms and ban you for good, and it's all within their right since you accepted the terms.

Exactly! We have seen more than a lot of cases that casinos use this kind of method, in order to get as much as possible. If not all, since gamblers will play there until they hit something big in order to withdraw and see the bitter truth. I learned it the hard way too and from then on, never again VPN. Cry

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Quote from: Oluwa-btc on December 04, 2024, 02:08:50 PM

Well I concur to the use of VPN cause it gives a user friendly process and opposes restrictions of servers but then I don't see why some Casinos don't buy to the demands of using VPN, probably they see it as a means of intruding into a privacy which is why they usually include that in their terms and conditions but then if there's a beneficial means to use VPN in the casino why is it restricted by some .

The only benefit that I can think of that makes some casinos allow users to use VPNs is as a result of them not being limited by country restrictions that block the citizens from that particular country from gambling. They don't want to miss the traffic and revenue that can be gotten from those people.

For those who don't allow it, they don't want any stress of a gambler trying to outsmart them, especially for those who are banned from using the casino or casinos that are strict with regulation; they don't want to be queried by any government for allowing their citizens access to their casino.

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Quote from: Zwei on December 04, 2024, 01:43:33 PM

Quote from: bias on December 04, 2024, 12:35:21 PM

Quote from: Zwei on December 02, 2024, 02:05:58 PM

even if a casino claims to be VPN friendly, i wouldn't play there if my country is blocked. they can change their policy at any time, and you would end up fucked.

And there is the catch. They are supposed to promote the VPN but in reality, they are setting a net (of protection or trap, take your pick) from which you cannot escape and you will always depend on their judgment and appetite. They profit from the advertising and the hype that is caused, they force you to go through the KYK for withdrawal (at some point they all do it) and if they consider you shady, they simply change the ToS. It's better not to use a VPN, you get into trouble from the start.

not to mention, that most of those "VPN friendly" casinos don't really care if a VPN is being used as long as you are losing...
but as soon as you win big and try to withdraw, they will say you violated the terms and ban you for good, and it's all within their right since you accepted the terms.

This has happened, and many people have mentioned it in our forum. At the beginning, the platform focuses on bringing the users towards their platform and making them deposit and spend as much as possible. As time keeps moving, they used to get good traffic. By the time if there is good winning with specific users and that's disturbing their revenue on a large scale, surely they'll look for reasons to stop the particular person from gambling. I'm not sure of it, but I don't think that the particular platform's terms and conditions support the usage of any VPN.

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Maybe some casinos allow VPN users to increase their users or quickly attract users to join their casino platform, while those that do not allow VPN use because they want to gain a good reputation.

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Quote from: Distinctin on December 04, 2024, 09:22:58 AM

Casinos aim to prevent fraud and money laundering, that’s why it’s within their terms and conditions not to use VPN so that they can assure that the users can no longer execute illicit activities like money laundering. Aside from that, these licensed casinos also encourage security and fair play, which won’t be possible with VPN knowing it can lead to casinos abuse since it will block the verification process which will trace the user identity.

But some casino sites allow to use VPN, there are some reasons of course because you know in many countries gambling/casinos sites are restricted by government, so those people’s how to access these sites, when they need to use VPN. But mostly casinos site will never allow because after used VPN they can't trace actual identity of a user.

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Quote from: Adbitco on December 04, 2024, 02:01:29 PM

Correct though if they're not having that on their Tos there wouldn't had been a day they would restricts that person, but if they openly say they allows the use of vpn what more there is nothing to be afraid but I said in respect of those that state against the use of vpn on their gambling site.
We actually need to be very careful while involving with using of VPN as there could be a bad effect maybe if they decided to update their TOS against vpn.

People that complained of something related to this that their account were banned on the gambling site they use is actually because the gambling site states that the person is from a restricted country and not the use of VPN. I just want to be practical about this but I may not be totally right. I have mistakenly left VPN on while accessing some sites before but I do not know if they allow or not allow VPN but I got no problem till today. Although, when I know I on the VPN, I will disable it.

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Quote from: Beparanf on December 02, 2024, 09:51:23 AM

Just to clarify things, let’s not focus on the casino itself rather the feature of promoting the use of VPN
I’m wondering why some casino discouraged the full use of VPN while others fully support the use of it.

Well I concur to the use of VPN cause it gives a user friendly process and opposes restrictions of servers but then I don't see why some Casinos don't buy to the demands of using VPN, probably they see it as a means of intruding into a privacy which is why they usually include that in their terms and conditions but then if there's a beneficial means to use VPN in the casino why is it restricted by some .

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