Topic: Casinobit - no house edge, 100% payout - page 3. (Read 8099 times)

The game on the main page doesn't require registration, you can send an amount and receive back at your address. The captcha is meant to be that way and the email is for opening support tickets on the site, if we value our customers anonimity it doesn't mean that we never contact our players. It isn't at all like anything, it gives you a sense of community and brings people together, a whole new experience.

And we do not have support for the color blind at the moment sorry 

Nobody asked the real question, which I'm sure is the basis for all the skepticism. If your payout is 100%, how do you make money? How do you even pay the transaction fees?

I'm also a little confused.  Why do I need to register and provide an email address if you're


?

The game that appeared when I finally got logged in seems to be a little like satoshidice.  I send coins to an address to bet, and you return winnings to the address I sent from.  Why even ask for registration if that's the game?

Finally, is this how the game is meant to look?



It looks like there might be some small text in those green boxes.  If you chose a colour that contrasted with the green I might be able to tell for sure.

I still find it hard to read the captcha:



and you still won't let me use the password I want to (and the error message doesn't fit in the box it's meant to):



I've still not got to play any games so I can't tell if you've fixed the biggest problem - that your games lacked provable fairness.  But given your first post on the subject I doubt you think it's worth doing.

Edit: I used a shorter password, managed to register, then when I went to sign in it asked for a new captcha:



but I guess I read it wrong, because then it did this:



and I can't see where to go from there.  There's no option to try logging in again.

The whole feel of the site isn't very slick.  It feels like something that's only just been put together and needs the rough edges taken off.

Maybe currently you wouldn't but soon we will have commercial quality Texas Holdem, also no house fees 

(Not that I encourage your terrible gambling addiction in any way)

I have a gambling problem and i wouldnt touch this site with my worst enemy's bitcoins

Hi there you must own stocks of one of our competitors and no, we will never go away.

The concept is liberating not just to the bitcoin community but to the gambling community as a whole.

It is irrelevant, don't tell us how to handle our business please, we have had numerous attacks on our services, the last one happened ~10 minutes ago, never was there any data or bitcoin loss.

All the bugs reported by dooglus have been fixed.

You may be putting in *effort* but you are not producing quality outcomes.  TradeFortress is correct, if you are even using mysql instead of mysqli you are behind the php curve by a few years.  Languages evolve for important reasons, developers don't just deprecate the interface to the single most popular amateur database for no reason.  For example, you must not be using Prepared Statements... that's a structural issue, not a "beta" issue.

This is why it is a beta of sorts, try to hack it, I dare every player.

And I don't agree with the 3rd statement, we put more effort than 95% of casinos currently (if not all).

Are you serious? This is *horribad* programming.

1. You are using mysql, NOT mysqli. Mysql is deprecated.

2. You don't buffer headers, which is why you get the second error.

3. The architecture of your code is pretty bad. Why's that important? Because it shows you are not putting effort in development.

4. YOU ARE NOT SUPPRESSING ERRORS.

Watch out for pen testers.

Aside from the above, I tried making an account.

* it complained that my password was too secure.  maximum 15 characters allowed

* the captcha you use is very hard to read

* once I eventually got registered I tried logging in and got an ugly error page:



I guess I'll give up for now.

What's a TTP?  Do you mean "trusted third party"?

SatoshiDice can certainly place bets against themselves, and can tell whether any given bet will win or not before publishing the transaction.  In that way they can defraud their shareholders by "winning" their profits for themselves.


Any decent casino will save the state of the game.  If you get disconnected you just reconnect and carry on where you left off.


Yes, it does.  Use a big enough hash and bruteforcing becomes untenable.  sha256 is big enough if you hash a long enough secret.


I don't care about bets they make against themselves.  So long as they can prove that their interactions with me are fair that's enough.  I know SatoshiDice could be cooking their books to defraud their investors.  I also know that when I make the "lessthan 32768" bet with them I have exactly 50% chance of winning.  I'm not an investor of theirs.  As a customer I know I'm getting a fair deal.


Provable fairness (as used by satoshidice and bitzino.com for example) doesn't require a trusted third party.  The randomness comes from the customer providing some data that the house can't know in advance.  In the case of satoshidice the customer provides the txid.  At bitzino the customer provides an arbitrary "client seed".  In both cases the data provided by the customer determines the result of the bet, but so does the secret known only by the house.  The hash of the secret is provided before the customer provides their data, which ensures fairness.

Player beware.

This thread isn't about putting down any other website, it's about putting ours up, but it is possible for them to cheat you. You can open a different thread and discuss it there, please stop hijacking threads and backlinking from them.

You are writing bullshit! Really!

http://www.satoshidice.com -> Verification

Secret list! List! Not the transaction ID.

I swear it's like people keep repeating what others said instead of thinking for themselves.

You are wrong again! It is impossible for the SatoshiDice to know a Transaction ID ahead of time.

At the moment I doubt there is a casino in the world which is provably fair let alone one which accepts bitcoins anyone who claims otherwise is throwing around statements which are way too strong for him to comprehend and the 1% might not seem like a lot but in the long run it's the 1% that gets you.


It is possible for them to rob their investors by sending selective transactions to themselves since they know the secret list ahead of time. The casinos you keep mentioning don't even have contact information when in our casino you can always open a ticket and someone will get back to you, even if you ignore the fact that they are detrimental to the bitcoin community.

I will much rather think how we can really prove that we are trustworthy instead of proving that others aren't, we are in the creative business, not the competitive one.

I will believe your words if you are able to describe in details how to cheat for the SatoshiDICE operator.
Contrary, it is very easy to cheat for you as I have wrote in my previous post.