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Not a risk if we know how to manage that risk, if we think that the fee is something we can't take, why withdraw frequently? let your money sleep for awhile and just withdraw when the fee is already affordable.
Not all people can manage the risk, as I know (like me) only know bet button  Grin

LOL, you should learn how to, it's important to also know how to manage the risk and not just knowing the game, you'll realize that sooner when you fall with your own emotion and you act weird chasing your bets when you lose and would result to a lose beyond your expectation.


You are not wise..............

DOGE I guess is the cheapest and fastest, maybe OP should try this one.
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Why not use some casinos that accepts trx doge or some casinos that accepts crypto coins/tokens that has low fees? Right now there are numerous crypto that has different payment options but if you don't have any other crypto on your wallet then you have to digest what's really the fee the casino requires.

I don't have to change casino of course, I change my payment option usually the likes of XRP as it's more convenient as well.

most of the gambling casino we have now accepting other crypto currency so I don't think thats the real issue of the OP maybe he prefer to use bitcoin for gambling but he need to learn now how to use other crypto currency as alternative if they want to have low fees to be use for gambling.
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That bitcoin rises and consequently the withdrawal fees rise, we are used to it, but this time some casinos have increased up to 300% or more, I do not know if anticipating that bitcoin continues to increase.

The increase should always be proportional to the increase in bitcoin or fairly close.

How much does it bother you that it increases disproportionately? Do you change casino for this reason?

Let's go! It is not that they are so exorbitant amounts compared to some exchanges, for example.
But there are players who are moving their balances from one place to another looking for bonuses etc.

Generally those that move in a bankroll between $ 10 and $ 100. This affects them, a withdrawal commission of $ 3 after paying before (bitcoin price +/- $ 9500) $ 0.45 is taking away a percentage of profit from the players of the micro-bets.



Please! Big cash out players, we understand how insignificant the increase is for you.  Cool
But sometime in his successful career, he had the experience of paying a commission that meant 30% of his withdrawal of funds. (!?)
Withdrawal fee doesn't increase due to the price rise, its just increased due to more clogged network on the blockchain, and you can't blame the casinos and if you care about the increase in bitcoin's withdrawal fee then better move to altcoins to bet so you can save that micro bet you are talking about.But what I noticed is that withdrawal fee on the casinos are far less than while withdrawing from our wallets because casinos make batch withdrawals which can save fees in total.
I think the other reason behind the sudden increase on casinos withdrawal fees is the pandemic and the demand. We are all suffering in the midst of this pandemic but still a lot of gamers and gamblers has their own ways to manage their time and effort to play even if most of us are suffering from food and money shortage that's why the management of the casinos decided to increase their fees in order for them to increase also the payment of their workers as a help for them.
No they won't do in that way, or else they are going to lose their customers, still the memepool is slightly clogged so I find the transaction fee little higher but low less compared to previous weeks so it all depends on the network not on the casinos itself.




Please do your research on the subject, do not target your answer based on things you have just read, perhaps in this thread, experience helps contextualize and knowledge to be accurate.
Yes I am following bustadice withdrawal fee where the fee is only based on the network requirements, previously the prices increased to $11,000 in this year but at that time where withdrawal fee for instant was about 50 bits only but now is is in the region of 200 bits for instant and 40 bits for regular batching withdrawal.
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Please feel free to contribute additional topics:

_ I have already commented on the reason for the increase in Fee. Several guesses with that, but "ready"

_ Yes! altcoin / shitcoin are alternative, it is not necessary to add more of that.

If you have any personal experience, specific recommendation, you would be contributing enormously.

If you know the casino fees of your campaign, it is good to know them if you know of others, also preferably add Bitcoin.

Anyway, add "substance," I'd appreciate it.




In the case of YOLOdice website, we can't deny that the withdrawal fees are significantly high which makes it impractical to withdraw such low amount of bitcoin. At the time of writing this, the "instant withdrawal" option will cost you for about 0.00117 BTC while the batch withdrawal will cost you for about 0.000585 BTC. That is why, it would be more appropriate to withdraw at least 0.03 - 0.05 amount of bitcoin on a regular basis whenever the mempool is congested.

Moreover, I also don't think if YOLOdice is making profit with regards to withdrawal. The reason why there is an increase of withdrawal fees is that ethan decides that the withdrawal fee must be proportional to the network fee and making sure that the transaction will be confirmed in the next few blocks possible.

There is nothing we can do but wait until the mempool transaction declined or cash out big.
Thank you, it is that one wants to read and even more so if it is in your signature "should" (that nothing forces it, but is restrictive from the point of what it does, promote a betting site) to know, I am surprised to read comments " like I don't gamble "or" I usually don't "and he's in Gambling and he's got a related signature.

Hopefully there will be more reading options like yours, # 2, and also from those who contribute in relation to the OP.


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This is to be expected I guess, especially in this time of pandemic because people started to prioritize first their needs and they only gamble a little compare before, that's why the gambling site increases their withdrawal fees, because they have a business to keep running as well as families to feed.

Just like what you have mentioned, clearly they are taking the advantage to take back the profits or bankroll they lost during the first wave of the pandemic. And I guess you shouldn't probably playing gambling if you're being bother by the sudden rise of their withdrawal fees cause that just means you can't afford to lose what you have.
Please! do not include or treat sensitive topics and try to relate them to my OP. I do not feel identified with your comment, not in how it intends to contextualize, if my OP led her to that, it is not the idea, my apologies.

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The OP is concerned about big player but they are not really the most affected because transaction fee is fixed to all withdrawal amount so that minimal fee will not gonna hurt them. Small players is the most affected and suffering huge withdrawal fee. It's better to gamble using altcoin like $XRP because it's fee is very cheap no matter what is the price of BTC.

Some Casino has built-in exchange, Players there are very lucky because they can avoid huge transaction fee of BTC by converting in to altcoins that has lower fee.
Don't change my context, in fact you are taking my idea in your answer.

It is not XRP or any other altcoin, it is bitcoin in the bet, the action to withdraw can be changed if the casino allows it, there are more "good" casinos that do not have it.

Understand something when you get used to making calculations in relation to the bet size potodds etc that are relevant, you cannot be using shitcoin (which is not limiting). I know that many here only know about slots, dice, sports bets.
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Gamblers won't withdraw from the casinos regularly. Most of the top rated casinos always give the best entire access to the users. We're responsible to take care of our funds with ultimate security.

Look into casineos casino, once on sign-up you need to secure your security key as well as recovery words. Further if you forget your password this is the only option to recover your funds. The team can't do anything in such situation. As there is no third party control over our funds why can't we withdraw at some specific time interval to avoid the fee.
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Withdrawal fee doesn't increase due to the price rise, its just increased due to more clogged network on the blockchain, and you can't blame the casinos and if you care about the increase in bitcoin's withdrawal fee then better move to altcoins to bet so you can save that micro bet you are talking about.But what I noticed is that withdrawal fee on the casinos are far less than while withdrawing from our wallets because casinos make batch withdrawals which can save fees in total.
Please do your research on the subject, do not target your answer based on things you have just read, perhaps in this thread, experience helps contextualize and knowledge to be accurate.
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Why not use some casinos that accepts trx doge or some casinos that accepts crypto coins/tokens that has low fees? Right now there are numerous crypto that has different payment options but if you don't have any other crypto on your wallet then you have to digest what's really the fee the casino requires.

I don't have to change casino of course, I change my payment option usually the likes of XRP as it's more convenient as well.
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That bitcoin rises and consequently the withdrawal fees rise, we are used to it, but this time some casinos have increased up to 300% or more, I do not know if anticipating that bitcoin continues to increase.

The increase should always be proportional to the increase in bitcoin or fairly close.

How much does it bother you that it increases disproportionately? Do you change casino for this reason?

Let's go! It is not that they are so exorbitant amounts compared to some exchanges, for example.
But there are players who are moving their balances from one place to another looking for bonuses etc.

Generally those that move in a bankroll between $ 10 and $ 100. This affects them, a withdrawal commission of $ 3 after paying before (bitcoin price +/- $ 9500) $ 0.45 is taking away a percentage of profit from the players of the micro-bets.



Please! Big cash out players, we understand how insignificant the increase is for you.  Cool
But sometime in his successful career, he had the experience of paying a commission that meant 30% of his withdrawal of funds. (!?)
High fees are definitely a deal breaker to me when it comes to playing in casinos because I do not really like the idea of leaving my coins in a casino because you never know when a hack is going to happen, as such I deposit very low amounts of money in the casino most likely thinking that I will lose everything but if I happen to win I want to withdraw that money and high fees are for the most part just another way for casinos exchanges to overcharge you and earn more money.
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Its the reality and we arent only experiencing this on gambling field but also in other services as well when bitcoins price tend to rally up then so as with it fees.

And this is where Altcoins would take in play..For small time gamblers then it would better to take this option yet fees wont really increase that much

compared to bitcoin but if you do really like on using up btc then you have to deal with it or simply just skip out and wait for fees to settle down.

I agree it's something that we will experience from time to time I remember experiencing this two years ago, and now some months ago again be prepare to take some options and you have other coins for options in case you don't want to deposit Bitcoin with higher fee, my coins of options are Litecoin, XRP and Tron.
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That bitcoin rises and consequently the withdrawal fees rise, we are used to it, but this time some casinos have increased up to 300% or more, I do not know if anticipating that bitcoin continues to increase.

The increase should always be proportional to the increase in bitcoin or fairly close.

How much does it bother you that it increases disproportionately? Do you change casino for this reason?

Let's go! It is not that they are so exorbitant amounts compared to some exchanges, for example.
But there are players who are moving their balances from one place to another looking for bonuses etc.

Generally those that move in a bankroll between $ 10 and $ 100. This affects them, a withdrawal commission of $ 3 after paying before (bitcoin price +/- $ 9500) $ 0.45 is taking away a percentage of profit from the players of the micro-bets.



Please! Big cash out players, we understand how insignificant the increase is for you.  Cool
But sometime in his successful career, he had the experience of paying a commission that meant 30% of his withdrawal of funds. (!?)
Withdrawal fee doesn't increase due to the price rise, its just increased due to more clogged network on the blockchain, and you can't blame the casinos and if you care about the increase in bitcoin's withdrawal fee then better move to altcoins to bet so you can save that micro bet you are talking about.But what I noticed is that withdrawal fee on the casinos are far less than while withdrawing from our wallets because casinos make batch withdrawals which can save fees in total.
I think the other reason behind the sudden increase on casinos withdrawal fees is the pandemic and the demand. We are all suffering in the midst of this pandemic but still a lot of gamers and gamblers has their own ways to manage their time and effort to play even if most of us are suffering from food and money shortage that's why the management of the casinos decided to increase their fees in order for them to increase also the payment of their workers as a help for them.
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That bitcoin rises and consequently the withdrawal fees rise, we are used to it, but this time some casinos have increased up to 300% or more, I do not know if anticipating that bitcoin continues to increase.

The increase should always be proportional to the increase in bitcoin or fairly close.

How much does it bother you that it increases disproportionately? Do you change casino for this reason?

Let's go! It is not that they are so exorbitant amounts compared to some exchanges, for example.
But there are players who are moving their balances from one place to another looking for bonuses etc.

Generally those that move in a bankroll between $ 10 and $ 100. This affects them, a withdrawal commission of $ 3 after paying before (bitcoin price +/- $ 9500) $ 0.45 is taking away a percentage of profit from the players of the micro-bets.



Please! Big cash out players, we understand how insignificant the increase is for you.  Cool
But sometime in his successful career, he had the experience of paying a commission that meant 30% of his withdrawal of funds. (!?)
Withdrawal fee doesn't increase due to the price rise, its just increased due to more clogged network on the blockchain, and you can't blame the casinos and if you care about the increase in bitcoin's withdrawal fee then better move to altcoins to bet so you can save that micro bet you are talking about.But what I noticed is that withdrawal fee on the casinos are far less than while withdrawing from our wallets because casinos make batch withdrawals which can save fees in total.
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The big names in this field offer for people who do not like increasing fees the option to deposit and withdraw with altcoins.Almost every altcoin even those who can be considered extremely well known offer good small fees in their transactions.I also think you should be specific as some casinos still continue instant withdraws and they pay the fees for us.
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I think that being specific is not necessary because the subject can be dealt with in a general way, it is a matter of discussing and learning from places like the one you mention, I just visited it and it has poker which is what I like. Thanks for that information.


Maybe not, but I still want to know so I can give a good suggestion, the site I've mentioned, I'm using it regularly and I have no headache with the withdrawal fee as it's free every time. Other sites I know they have some withdrawal fee, so why OP would not choose a site that does not charge a withdrawal fee, that's very simple, and I understand that only few among the sites are offering free withdrawal fee, only sportsbet is the site I know.
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From rare sense, the increase of bitcoin should result to the increase of withdrawal charges of casinos games or rather other crypto gambling platforms as to increase the company rates of income stability, meanwhile lowering withdrawal charges distabilize it aims at certain point of targets by the casinos gambling companies.
Most time bitcoin had the highest charges so far therefore bettors should consider converting to other coin if that is actually available on some casinos platform for convenient withdraw.

The gambler will know where they should play, so if bitcoin fees increase, they can convert to other coins, which can reduce the fee. It is about how the gambler can select the gambling site, which has other coins to gamble, so they don't have to use bitcoin to gamble, but they can also use the altcoin to gamble. In the gambling site itself, if they only have bitcoin as the only one coin, I think their website is hard to grow because the gambler wants to use other coins than to just use bitcoin.
Maybe there are certain reasons why many gambling sites increases their withdrawals fee. There are pros and cons on what they did, the pros is their revenues will increase and the cons is there is possibilities that few of their users or the gamblers who are using the platform may switch to another casinos because of the lower fees that they are offering. I usually use bitcoin when I gambling and I also mind the fee because for me it is important that is why I choose gambling sites that are offering low withdrawal fees.
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From rare sense, the increase of bitcoin should result to the increase of withdrawal charges of casinos games or rather other crypto gambling platforms as to increase the company rates of income stability, meanwhile lowering withdrawal charges distabilize it aims at certain point of targets by the casinos gambling companies.
Most time bitcoin had the highest charges so far therefore bettors should consider converting to other coin if that is actually available on some casinos platform for convenient withdraw.

The gambler will know where they should play, so if bitcoin fees increase, they can convert to other coins, which can reduce the fee. It is about how the gambler can select the gambling site, which has other coins to gamble, so they don't have to use bitcoin to gamble, but they can also use the altcoin to gamble. In the gambling site itself, if they only have bitcoin as the only one coin, I think their website is hard to grow because the gambler wants to use other coins than to just use bitcoin.
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There is a relation to the current price rise of bitcoin and also because of the network congestion. I'll take the advice of others if you don't want to pay the increased fee for bitcoin withdrawals, you can always convert it to altcoins which have lesser fees.

But if your casino doesn't have an option or feature like that, you can set to the lowest priority but make sure that you're not in a hurry. We have no choice if fee increases but to do what fits the likes of you in withdrawal.



But I know one new casino here that the withdrawal is really high and no other options. So if you are a gambler who is conscious about the withdrawal fees, you need to check first their fees and options before sending any money to the casino. With the network getting congested, they really have no choice but increase their fees.
What's that casino? we still have an option and that is not to gamble on that casino if you find their withdrawal fee to be high. That's the best solution for someone who look to the fees as high as ever when you withdraw.

But it's also good to understand how the fees work. Casinos are flexible with their withdrawal fees because they also rely to the network's reaction so if there's a congestion, expect higher fees.

I never understand why people blame casino's for the higher fee which is not in their control. Secondly people are worried to lose few satoshi in withdrawal tx fee but are happy to lose lot of money and bitcoins through gambling  Wink
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There is a relation to the current price rise of bitcoin and also because of the network congestion. I'll take the advice of others if you don't want to pay the increased fee for bitcoin withdrawals, you can always convert it to altcoins which have lesser fees.

But if your casino doesn't have an option or feature like that, you can set to the lowest priority but make sure that you're not in a hurry. We have no choice if fee increases but to do what fits the likes of you in withdrawal.



But I know one new casino here that the withdrawal is really high and no other options. So if you are a gambler who is conscious about the withdrawal fees, you need to check first their fees and options before sending any money to the casino. With the network getting congested, they really have no choice but increase their fees.
What's that casino? we still have an option and that is not to gamble on that casino if you find their withdrawal fee to be high. That's the best solution for someone who look to the fees as high as ever when you withdraw.

But it's also good to understand how the fees work. Casinos are flexible with their withdrawal fees because they also rely to the network's reaction so if there's a congestion, expect higher fees.
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Try to contact the owner of the casino that you have found increasing their withdrawal fees.
I think, contacting support for decrease the fee is embarrassing self. When comes into casino player bring a lot of money in a briefcase, winning a big amount of bet and make his big smile face. then suddenly, comes to be unhappy when withdrawing a "big" fee?,  Roll Eyes
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From rare sense, the increase of bitcoin should result to the increase of withdrawal charges of casinos games or rather other crypto gambling platforms as to increase the company rates of income stability, meanwhile lowering withdrawal charges distabilize it aims at certain point of targets by the casinos gambling companies.
Most time bitcoin had the highest charges so far therefore bettors should consider converting to other coin if that is actually available on some casinos platform for convenient withdraw.
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Please! Big cash out players, we understand how insignificant the increase is for you.  Cool
But sometime in his successful career, he had the experience of paying a commission that meant 30% of his withdrawal of funds. (!?)
Its the reality and we arent only experiencing this on gambling field but also in other services as well when bitcoins price tend to rally up then so as with it fees.

And this is where Altcoins would take in play..For small time gamblers then it would better to take this option yet fees wont really increase that much

compared to bitcoin but if you do really like on using up btc then you have to deal with it or simply just skip out and wait for fees to settle down.
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Doesn't NitrogenSports KYC you immediately though? If I'm running up a balance, I need to withdraw smaller amounts because some of these shady casinos will immediately request documents the moment you get considerable winnings. Bitstars pulled this before and other people have had the same experience.
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The fees always varies on any type of the coin where the network congestion is big deal in determining the fees, even the slower ones will rise due to this.
Well, that is right. Bitcoin gambling casino has no fault here when the withdrawal fee will arise. When the network is congested, that is expected that bitcoin fee will also arise due to overloaded network and a lot of unconfirmed transaction. You can check mempool in that way, if the network is congested, don't mind about withdrawal. Just wait until the network did not busy and withdraw your bitcoin. [option 1]
Yeah it is advisable to check mempool whenever trying to withdraw, and aside from the literal bitcoin fee or whatever coin that you use there are still casino fee on withdrawal, that's added to the fee that you are paying. Preferably to wait rather than spending too much, or if the bitcoin rises try to calculate a little coz that's also a gain to you, so spending a little more won't hurt your pocket.

Another is, --exchange your bitcoin into lower fees altcoin, like XRP and Ethereum to your wallet. But make sure that the online casino site has multiple cryptocurrencies accepted. [option 2]
The best option is this but I doubt it would just add to your costs coz it will generate a fee, then another fee for transferring into another. Nothing to worry about the casinos, casinos now are multicurrency integrated. Calculation before withdrawal is a must.
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