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legendary
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ICO? Not even once.

Another thing, in mining Lyra2 my GTX 960 cards mine more slowly than a 750ti.  I don't understand it.  I think there may have been another post on this 10-20 pages back, but this thread is getting long.  Smiley                --scryptr

It seems lyra2 is memory bound. Unless the 960 has more memory I wouldn't expect a big increase, but I
wouldn't expect a decrease either.

It seems to be memory bandwidth bound, not memory amount bound:



Although a 960 should surely be faster than a 750 Ti.
legendary
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Another thing, in mining Lyra2 my GTX 960 cards mine more slowly than a 750ti.  I don't understand it.  I think there may have been another post on this 10-20 pages back, but this thread is getting long.  Smiley                --scryptr

It seems lyra2 is memory bound. Unless the 960 has more memory I wouldn't expect a big increase, but I
wouldn't expect a decrease either.
legendary
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RELEASE 1.53--

I haven't posted in a while, I was disapointed with releases 1.51 and 1.52.  Both would run, but crash over time on both my Linux and Win 7 machines.  Release 1.53 runs smoothly enough on my Win 7 GTX 960, mining Quark.  However, I don't see any significant change in hashing speed since v1.50, my fallback.

I think it was the reduction in default intensity that made things better.  Perhaps SP_ could provide default intensity info for the different algos, and we could each find the top intensity for our own rigs by adjusting from the default.

Another thing, in mining Lyra2 my GTX 960 cards mine more slowly than a 750ti.  I don't understand it.  I think there may have been another post on this 10-20 pages back, but this thread is getting long.  Smiley                --scryptr
legendary
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Sorry djm34...thought some might. Are there any mult-algo trading pools out there I can quark mine on & trade for x11?
no idea, I am not much into multipool... so I guess I lost my chance to make 18k$ in fee  Grin
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Sorry djm34...thought some might. Are there any mult-algo trading pools out there I can quark mine on & trade for x11?
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I think this thread needs a fork of it's own Wink
legendary
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legendary
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15BTC per copy is $7500~ per copy. How many do you plan on selling? 2?

Quark alone JUST on Nicehash has 60GH. At 2% that's 1.2GH. That's .48BTC per day, for Quark alone and that's a smaller one. That's $18,144 per month at current BTC prices. This doesn't include ANY pools outside of Nicehash and we all know those don't exist.


15BTC= $7,500
0.48BTC/day * 30= 14.4BTC= $18,144 per month
Wow  Shocked

 Shocked 7500$ yeah may-be last year  Grin
 
Grin
(wish I knew the exchanges he uses...)
 Grin I guess I won't hire him as accountant (marketing may-be...)
legendary
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ICO? Not even once.
hiring gpu dev: foraging and hunting is a plus

Oh man, almost spilled my coffee.  Cheesy
"The position provides required business equipment, such as company laptop, a spear and a basket."


Anyway, I think if there was a group of very talented coders creating some amazing miners they wouldn't sell it publicly.
Setting up their own farms or selling it to one or two huge farm owners would probably yield more profit long term.
Also less risk of the software leaking or DRM being circumvented.
sr. member
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15BTC per copy is $7500~ per copy. How many do you plan on selling? 2?

Quark alone JUST on Nicehash has 60GH. At 2% that's 1.2GH. That's .48BTC per day, for Quark alone and that's a smaller one. That's $18,144 per month at current BTC prices. This doesn't include ANY pools outside of Nicehash and we all know those don't exist.


15BTC= $7,500
0.48BTC/day * 30= 14.4BTC= $18,144 per month
Wow  Shocked

 Shocked 7500$ yeah may-be last year  Grin
 
Grin
legendary
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DRM is more or less a time-lock - the more work you put into it, the longer you get before it's useless.
Looking at old blockchains I'm almost sure that Quark version of Smelter got hacked. Well, time to do licensing server.

Encryption, authentication, verification, and updates... I guess developers actually have to try at what they're doing and make a actual program. Maybe even make a company. You know, take shit seriously.

There is and never will be a 100% effective DRM. You just make it not worth someones time to break it. That means fair pricing (1-2% mining fee) for a fair product. In addition to this people DO actually buy software and use legal software, even around here. This is why software companies still exist in real life, even though pirated copies are so easy to come by.

What you are asking is ridiculous (as usual).
If we were to make such program/company considering the work involved, I would not price it below 15btc per copy (which actually isn't bad  Grin)
Would you buy it ? Guess not
And "fair mining" in the 1%-2% yeah right  Grin fee rather 5~15% you are kinda cheap...

Stop asking people to make stuff, you would never buy unless it is free

As usual you have no idea about anything besides the algos you 'optimize' and have no idea what sort of volume goes through the crypto networks. 15BTC per copy is $7500~ per copy. How many do you plan on selling? 2?

Shocked 7500$ yeah may-be last year  Grin
If your math are as good as your argumentation, I am done with you

and regarding your quark example, I wouldn't get what you say because it is already open-sourced and as you say yourself, most of the algo are already open-sourced...
So a whole company (5~10 dev  Shocked) making a decent %age only on new algo... well good luck with that... hope they know how to hunt so they can eat  Grin

hiring gpu dev: foraging and hunting is a plus
legendary
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DRM is more or less a time-lock - the more work you put into it, the longer you get before it's useless.
Looking at old blockchains I'm almost sure that Quark version of Smelter got hacked. Well, time to do licensing server.

Encryption, authentication, verification, and updates... I guess developers actually have to try at what they're doing and make a actual program. Maybe even make a company. You know, take shit seriously.

There is and never will be a 100% effective DRM. You just make it not worth someones time to break it. That means fair pricing (1-2% mining fee) for a fair product. In addition to this people DO actually buy software and use legal software, even around here. This is why software companies still exist in real life, even though pirated copies are so easy to come by.

What you are asking is ridiculous (as usual).
If we were to make such program/company considering the work involved, I would not price it below 15btc per copy (which actually isn't bad  Grin)
Would you buy it ? Guess not
And "fair mining" in the 1%-2% yeah right  Grin fee rather 5~15% you are kinda cheap...

Stop asking people to make stuff, you would never buy unless it is free

As usual you have no idea about anything besides the algos you 'optimize' and have no idea what sort of volume goes through the crypto networks. 15BTC per copy is $7500~ per copy. How many do you plan on selling? 2?

Quark alone JUST on Nicehash has 60GH. At 2% that's 1.2GH. That's .48BTC per day, for Quark alone and that's a smaller one. That's $18,144 per month at current BTC prices. This doesn't include ANY pools outside of Nicehash and we all know those don't exist.

At your 15% you'd be getting 3.6 BTC per day. You'd have 108 BTC at the end of the month for just Quark. I don't think you have any idea what you're talking about. This is why miners with 15% mining fees get neutered, because that level of greed no one puts up with.

I don't think paying someone .48 BTC per day is giving someone something 'for free'. I would be paying the 1-2% just like everyone else.

CCMiner already does pretty much every algo, almost everyone with a Nvidia card is using it. That is A LOT of hashrate and 1-2% doesn't sound like a lot, but it definitely adds up and you definitely could make a company built on this sort of thing. This could also be expanded to AMD cards, essentially every last bit of hashrate for altcoins would be going through this miner. That is a metric FUCKTON of money at 1-2%.

All of this could be done with a handful of programmers, probably 5-10 and overhead. There are already that many big names in the community. 6 working algos, 2 working features, 2 working security. For a small company that is a lot of income.

You guys aren't thinking about the shear scale of cryptos and what such a project encompasses. This is no different then starting a company to make ASICs, only the product already exists, there are no startup costs, and there is NO competition once things get going. Freelance devs wont be able to keep up with a actual company as long as the talent is decent.


DRM isn't a user feature, just to make sure you understand that. That's for your security. Users don't want DRM. It's a negative quality when it comes to selling software.

And then mining would be totally unprofitable. 2% mining fee, 2% pool fee, 2% trading fee, 2% BTC fee. = sell all my cards and don't mine anymore...can't afford to give hash away and it costs me to do so.  Grin  Well you get the point.

If 8% makes you unprofitable for top to bottom then you probably should sell your cards as that's a huge investment for really long term risky ROI. You can get 5% on certain CDs.

You don't know how much you're losing due to private miners as well. For AMD cards, this made them completely unprofitable unless you had said private miner. So your loses would be much higher then 2%.
legendary
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DRM is more or less a time-lock - the more work you put into it, the longer you get before it's useless.
Looking at old blockchains I'm almost sure that Quark version of Smelter got hacked. Well, time to do licensing server.

Encryption, authentication, verification, and updates... I guess developers actually have to try at what they're doing and make a actual program. Maybe even make a company. You know, take shit seriously.

There is and never will be a 100% effective DRM. You just make it not worth someones time to break it. That means fair pricing (1-2% mining fee) for a fair product. In addition to this people DO actually buy software and use legal software, even around here. This is why software companies still exist in real life, even though pirated copies are so easy to come by.


Also all algos are in the shitter right now for some reason.
And then mining would be totally unprofitable. 2% mining fee, 2% pool fee, 2% trading fee, 2% BTC fee. = sell all my cards and don't mine anymore...can't afford to give hash away and it costs me to do so.  Grin  Well you get the point.
... and again in case of fee expect rather a minimum of 5%
say new shit 15~20% (or ultra fast optimization min 2x)
      decreasing down to 5% after a while and a after a longer while 1%
legendary
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DRM is more or less a time-lock - the more work you put into it, the longer you get before it's useless.
Looking at old blockchains I'm almost sure that Quark version of Smelter got hacked. Well, time to do licensing server.

Encryption, authentication, verification, and updates... I guess developers actually have to try at what they're doing and make a actual program. Maybe even make a company. You know, take shit seriously.

There is and never will be a 100% effective DRM. You just make it not worth someones time to break it. That means fair pricing (1-2% mining fee) for a fair product. In addition to this people DO actually buy software and use legal software, even around here. This is why software companies still exist in real life, even though pirated copies are so easy to come by.


Also all algos are in the shitter right now for some reason.
And then mining would be totally unprofitable. 2% mining fee, 2% pool fee, 2% trading fee, 2% BTC fee. = sell all my cards and don't mine anymore...can't afford to give hash away and it costs me to do so.  Grin  Well you get the point.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1050
DRM is more or less a time-lock - the more work you put into it, the longer you get before it's useless.
Looking at old blockchains I'm almost sure that Quark version of Smelter got hacked. Well, time to do licensing server.

Encryption, authentication, verification, and updates... I guess developers actually have to try at what they're doing and make a actual program. Maybe even make a company. You know, take shit seriously.

There is and never will be a 100% effective DRM. You just make it not worth someones time to break it. That means fair pricing (1-2% mining fee) for a fair product. In addition to this people DO actually buy software and use legal software, even around here. This is why software companies still exist in real life, even though pirated copies are so easy to come by.

What you are asking is ridiculous (as usual).
If we were to make such program/company considering the work involved, I would not price it below 15btc per copy (which actually isn't bad  Grin)
Would you buy it ? Guess not
And "fair mining" in the 1%-2% yeah right  Grin fee rather 5~15% you are kinda cheap...

Stop asking people to make stuff, you would never buy unless it is free

regarding the miner with dev fee I did for vnl, I think it works however people released very fast an open-sourced one and since it wasn't the fastest...  Grin
But it did work, however here what I did:

My personnal info was hashed through keccak as well as various random bits of the program such that if they had been altered it would have been impossible to return a correct hash, that was funny to program however it was probably easy to bypass, this hash was sent to the algo and compared to an identical sequence xored into the init sequence of whirlpool 
legendary
Activity: 1764
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DRM is more or less a time-lock - the more work you put into it, the longer you get before it's useless.
Looking at old blockchains I'm almost sure that Quark version of Smelter got hacked. Well, time to do licensing server.

Encryption, authentication, verification, and updates... I guess developers actually have to try at what they're doing and make a actual program. Maybe even make a company. You know, take shit seriously.

There is and never will be a 100% effective DRM. You just make it not worth someones time to break it. That means fair pricing (1-2% mining fee) for a fair product. In addition to this people DO actually buy software and use legal software, even around here. This is why software companies still exist in real life, even though pirated copies are so easy to come by.


Also all algos are in the shitter right now for some reason.
legendary
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Hope you have cheap $/kwh

I found my house electric meter to be broken ))) Will be fixed in a couple of weeks then I will return my nvidia back )))
hero member
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Looking at old blockchains I'm almost sure that Quark version of Smelter got hacked. Well, time to do licensing server.

Just buys you a little more time before the call to the server and the check is NOP'd out. Ticktock.

I'm looking at eldentyrell's trick with signcrypton; it (hopefully) should give some time.
hero member
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DRM is more or less a time-lock - the more work you put into it, the longer you get before it's useless.
Looking at old blockchains I'm almost sure that Quark version of Smelter got hacked. Well, time to do licensing server.
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