cedivad is gathering funs for legel action against HashFast

iCEBREAKER

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Quote from: cedivad on October 29, 2013, 05:20:11 PM

Getting my sense of humour back doesn't mean that i'm gonna see more than 25% of my investment back, tough. It just means that after a few hours of answering to your trolling posts i start to see a funny pattern.

Informing you that you have no case, no leg to stand on, and no basis for legal action at this time, isn't trolling.

OTOH, your persistent insisting that the T&C to which you agreed's Dec 31 guaranteed delivery date is ambiguous does constitute trolling.

That's why nobody gave you a single Satoshi (and instead mocked your delusions) in your begging threads. Cheesy

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Getting my sense of humour back doesn't mean that i'm gonna see more than 25% of my investment back, tough. It just means that after a few hours of answering to your trolling posts i start to see a funny pattern.

iCEBREAKER

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Quote from: cedivad on October 29, 2013, 05:01:04 PM

At least your last post was funny. Thanks.

You're very welcome!

Getting your sense of humor back means you're moving along the road to recovery.

Changing your angry, accusative signature to something more calm and rational would be another healthy step forward on that path.

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At least your last post was funny. Thanks.

iCEBREAKER

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Quote from: cedivad on October 29, 2013, 04:36:14 PM

Quote from: thoughtcourier on October 29, 2013, 04:32:13 PM

My opinion is that HashFast is untrustworthy. They represented something overly optimistic to make more sales, but put their actual expectations into the contract. My advice is to seek your refund per this thread:

http://www.justanswer.com/consumer-protection-law/82mir-made-pre-order-online-product-august-9-2013.html

It is probable that you will only get the dollar amount of the Bitcoins you paid.

Thank you for the link. I will crosspost your quote in my thread if you don't mind.

That shyster 'consumer protection lawyer' doesn't know WTF he's talking about and should stick to representing victims of McDonald's coffee burns.

There is nothing ambiguous about the guaranteed delivery date.

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All of the 550 Baby Jet units from Hashfast’s first production batch are guaranteed for delivery by December 31, 2013.
- https://hashfast.com/checkout/terms-of-sale/

Now we know what happened to Saul after he skipped town!

"Have fun in arbitration!"

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Quote from: thoughtcourier on October 29, 2013, 04:32:13 PM

My opinion is that HashFast is untrustworthy. They represented something overly optimistic to make more sales, but put their actual expectations into the contract. My advice is to seek your refund per this thread:

http://www.justanswer.com/consumer-protection-law/82mir-made-pre-order-online-product-august-9-2013.html

It is probable that you will only get the dollar amount of the Bitcoins you paid.

Thank you for the link. I will crosspost your quote in my thread if you don't mind.

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My opinion is that HashFast is untrustworthy. They represented something overly optimistic to make more sales, but put their actual expectations into the contract. My advice is to seek your refund per this thread:

http://www.justanswer.com/consumer-protection-law/82mir-made-pre-order-online-product-august-9-2013.html

It is probable that you will only get the dollar amount of the Bitcoins you paid.

cedivad

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I closed that thread and continued in a new one where i stated that i wasen't looking for anyone's money, but yes, that makes me a layer. Keep believing that.

Will you start to trow that around for the next months too (until when hf delivers?)

iCEBREAKER

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Quote from: cedivad on October 29, 2013, 04:08:22 PM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on October 29, 2013, 04:06:11 PM

What kind of idiot would make a thread called "Gathering funds for legal action against HashFast" when they aren't actually doing that?

The same idiot that decided to start with his owns money and take community's money only if people decided to join me later.

TIL it's possible to gather money from yourself, and it (somehow) makes sense to create a thread for the sole purpose of announcing such a solo adventure.

Correction -
You made TWO threads publicly announcing your self-gathering fund effort.

Correction to correction -
You failed to gather any interest in (and only scorn for) your absurd legal tantrum adventure, so you decided to double down and go it alone out of sheer malice and spite, heedless of the facts. And you accused everyone who tried to give you a clue of being a paid shill using a sockpuppet account.

What gall; how boorish!

Update to corrected correction -
cedivad is a liar:

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https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.3398182

Address: 1PrdHS7HQjhZpEnkWiGx15Pr1J3C6B4NfR
Please contribute however you can.

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on October 29, 2013, 04:06:11 PM

What kind of idiot would make a thread called "Gathering funds for legal action against HashFast" when they aren't actually doing that?

The same idiot that decided to start with his owns money and take community's money only if people decided to join me later.
What an idiot i'm.

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Quote from: cedivad on October 29, 2013, 03:39:22 PM

i'm not trying to raise anything as of now. I will start with my own funds, if the case has a base, others will join me.

Since that HF will miss their mid november deadline there will be all the time needed.

You're "not trying to raise anything as of now?"

Funny, the self-moderated thread you created and foolishly chose to exclude me from demonstrates the exact opposite.

What kind of idiot would make a thread called "Gathering funds for legal action against HashFast" when they aren't actually doing that?

Until HashFast fails to deliver by Dec 31 and then refuses to issue refunds, you have no basis for any legal action.

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Quote from: eneloop on October 29, 2013, 02:16:15 PM

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Customers are entitled to full refunds if they cancel their order, independently from the promised shipping date of a preorder. Full point.

Remember that this does not apply to on-demand built stuff.
Courts have to clarify first if it's really an on-demand order or just a preorder for a mass-produced article. I'm totally with you if it's the second one.

Every BabyJet is 100% identical to every other BabyJet. Mass produced. Refunds must be available at any time.

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I'm still interested in how much they pay you. Also, what is the kind of skills required for your work? I guess it can't be really that easy.
Anyway, to answer your last post attempt, i'm not trying to raise anything as of now. I will start with my own funds, if the case has a base, others will join me.

Since that HF will miss their mid november deadline there will be all the time needed.

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Quote from: cedivad on October 29, 2013, 03:26:01 PM

Quote from: iCEBREAKER on October 29, 2013, 03:22:13 PM

Did you have Dec 31 in your ToS?

I did.

And ^that^ is why you have no case.

Please send me 1 Bitcoin to cover the cost of my valuable legal advice.

You did manage to raise at least 1 Bitcoin in your "gathering funds" thread, didn't you?

Cheesy

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Quote from: iCEBREAKER on October 29, 2013, 03:22:13 PM

Quote from: cedivad on October 29, 2013, 03:07:31 PM

And let's not forget that the firsts batch 1 customers never had that date on their ToS.

Wrong again. Some batch 1 customers did have "that date" on their ToS.

Did you have Dec 31 in your ToS?

I did.
The first half of batch 1 didn't.

So, i'm not wrong.

You are.

I'm wrong because i keep replying to you.

iCEBREAKER

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Quote from: cedivad on October 29, 2013, 03:07:31 PM

And let's not forget that the firsts batch 1 customers never had that date on their ToS.

Wrong again. Some batch 1 customers did have "that date" on their ToS.

Did you have Dec 31 in your ToS?

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And let's not forget that the firsts batch 1 customers never had that date on their ToS.
I keep forgetting about them.

iCEBREAKER

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Quote from: cedivad on October 29, 2013, 02:59:52 PM

When will you stop lying?

When will you learn to read?

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3. DELIVERY AND QUANTITIES.
(a) Guaranteed Baby Jet Delivery Dates – Batch 1. All of the 550 Baby Jet units from Hashfast’s first production batch are guaranteed for delivery by December 31, 2013.

When will you learn to only risk what you can afford to lose?

When will you learn to stop blaming others for your own lack of due diligence and responsibility?

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I only deleted your posts from my thread. Any moderator can confirm that.
When will you stop lying?

iCEBREAKER

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Quote from: cedivad on October 29, 2013, 02:07:26 PM

Customers are entitled to full refunds if they cancel their order, independently from the promised shipping date of a preorder. Full point.

Is there still someone other than you missing the point?

Well, that certainly is your opinion. Of course, you don't know the difference between an FTC rule and an actual law, so that opinion counts for very little.

From https://hashfast.com/checkout/terms-of-sale:

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3. DELIVERY AND QUANTITIES.
(a) Guaranteed Baby Jet Delivery Dates – Batch 1. All of the 550 Baby Jet units from Hashfast’s first production batch are guaranteed for delivery by December 31, 2013.

Many people don't agree with your points and POV.

But you deleted their posts, like a coward afraid to defend his hasty conclusions from inconvenient scrutiny.

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