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They are trying to deceive people that is why they are doing this, we know that we have no need for those coins at all but since governments have realized they cannot kill bitcoin then they are going the next best thing, they are trying to put imitations out there and then claim their coins are better than bitcoin, something similar to what we see in the altcoin market with the difference those coins are backed by central banks.

The plan is simple they will try to get people to adopt their coins instead of bitcoin and when we add that a coin owned by a government can be even more oppressive than the fiat system we have in place then it is easy to understand their motivations, but from our point of view it does not make sense to adopt those coins, but that is us, people with a decent amount of knowledge about the economy and bitcoin, but the rest of the people are not like us, so I expect in the future those coins to have decent success if they keep up the charade.
The worse part if that they can force people to use only their centralized digital currencies, forbidding bitcoin and other decentralized crypto currencies. What I most fear is a bitcoin confiscation ordered by authoritarian governments towards btcs held in centralized exchanges. If something like this happened, I believe exchanges would deliver all the coins to governments without chances of reverting the decision.
There is no doubt in my mind that something like that is coming, it seems that people forget that during the Great Depression the US government confiscated the gold that was in private hands, there were many people that disobeyed the order and were able to keep their gold and get great profits thanks to it and while there is no doubt that gold is easier to confiscate than bitcoin, how many people are actually holding their bitcoin in wallets only they control?

It seems to me that a great deal of people are storing their coins in exchanges and if at some point a law like that is passed then they're going to lose all their bitcoin, they will be incredibly mad about it but at that point there is nothing to be done, this is why if you're going to use exchanges you need to use them for what they are for, trade there and then immediately get your coins out of there.
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As I was in doubt about this matter I sent a ticket to a national exchange which I'm customer asking if the government could create a law confiscating bitcoins, then the exchange just told me: well, we can't predict what the government will do.

Again I asked them in a hypothetical scenario where the government made a rule like this to confiscate bitcoins, how would the exchange act regards this matter, and they just told me to keep in the platform only bitcoins I use for trading activity and to withdraw the rest of my coins to a safe wallet. That was their recommendation.

After reading the two replies they sent me, a red sign lighted in my head...
That's a good answer, I think governments can't take your coins from your wallet, but they can take it from exchanges. Think about it, if you are dealing with some place that deals with the government, there is always a chance that they can reach it. All they have to do is send a mail about what needs to be done, and if they send one that says "all local exchanges will have to deliver all the coins on their possession to government or it will be punishable by jail" and then what are you expecting these exchanges to do? They will of course deliver and give all the money to those governments.

This is why I think you should keep your coins in a secret hardware wallet, that way you could hide it from everyone. Of course you may want to trade or buy or even have a bit of money there, but do not keep all of it there unless you are using them, if you are not using it, just put it on a hardware wallet.

Indeed, not all of the total Bitcoin in circulation can be confiscated by the government if this program continues.  but unfortunately, other forms of refusal still exist, for example all trading sites are frozen by the government so that their very fast movements have to be crippled because they do not have a permit.  Bitcoin users will return to like p2p so that all transactions are not detected by the government.  This is the worst picture of the government if it legalizes Bitcoin and replaces it with CBDC.  But I admit CBDC will not be equivalent to Bitcoin even though the direct government makes it.
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In recent times I read an Swiss central bank is going to own bitcoins and that must be a a really good news, while they are doing this, some dumb central banks are busy looking for ways that they are going to ban Bitcoin, which doesn’t even work out since a lot of exchanges and traders will quickly move to decentralization once they place that ban, which means that the central would no longer get taxes from these exchanges, and even employees of the exchanges in those countries will lose their job which is bad for their economy.

Swiss central bank did a good thing by embracing cryptocurrency which might be turning as a trend setting for other counties to follow in near future Cool.
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Banks can go for their own digital currencies but they can't be crypto like bitcoin. since all of those are backed by banks and can easily be manipulated. These digital currencies are just like digital fiat which is already in circulation.
It's more or less stablecoin but coming from central bank, even though they usually name it as CBDC which stands for Central Bank Digital Currency but it's just same thing.
Won't be really surprised if the whole crypto market don't get hyped up when these central banks released their own version of coin since it's like a copycay the existing stablecoins.
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As I was in doubt about this matter I sent a ticket to a national exchange which I'm customer asking if the government could create a law confiscating bitcoins, then the exchange just told me: well, we can't predict what the government will do.

Again I asked them in a hypothetical scenario where the government made a rule like this to confiscate bitcoins, how would the exchange act regards this matter, and they just told me to keep in the platform only bitcoins I use for trading activity and to withdraw the rest of my coins to a safe wallet. That was their recommendation.

After reading the two replies they sent me, a red sign lighted in my head...
That's a good answer, I think governments can't take your coins from your wallet, but they can take it from exchanges. Think about it, if you are dealing with some place that deals with the government, there is always a chance that they can reach it. All they have to do is send a mail about what needs to be done, and if they send one that says "all local exchanges will have to deliver all the coins on their possession to government or it will be punishable by jail" and then what are you expecting these exchanges to do? They will of course deliver and give all the money to those governments.

This is why I think you should keep your coins in a secret hardware wallet, that way you could hide it from everyone. Of course you may want to trade or buy or even have a bit of money there, but do not keep all of it there unless you are using them, if you are not using it, just put it on a hardware wallet.
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Banks can go for their own digital currencies but they can't be crypto like bitcoin. since all of those are backed by banks and can easily be manipulated. These digital currencies are just like digital fiat which is already in circulation.
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The worse part if that they can force people to use only their centralized digital currencies, forbidding bitcoin and other decentralized crypto currencies. What I most fear is a bitcoin confiscation ordered by authoritarian governments towards btcs held in centralized exchanges. If something like this happened, I believe exchanges would deliver all the coins to governments without chances of reverting the decision.

If that happens then surely Bitcoin and other cryptos that are currently very high in price could return to like in 2018. But seeing this, it is not that easy for governments around the world to jointly ban and confiscate their people's Bitcoin and force to use a centralized one.  Although India has taken that policy in advance.  The US and many other countries are already open to developing technology.
As I was in doubt about this matter I sent a ticket to a national exchange which I'm customer asking if the government could create a law confiscating bitcoins, then the exchange just told me: well, we can't predict what the government will do.

Again I asked them in a hypothetical scenario where the government made a rule like this to confiscate bitcoins, how would the exchange act regards this matter, and they just told me to keep in the platform only bitcoins I use for trading activity and to withdraw the rest of my coins to a safe wallet. That was their recommendation.

After reading the two replies they sent me, a red sign lighted in my head...

They also need a competitor that is as equal as Bitcoin, does it already exist?
There is no equal competitor to bitcoin, that is why there is a good chance governments are going to use authoritarianism to enforce their digital currencies.
Because through free will very few people would want to adopt them instead of bitcoin.
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The worse part if that they can force people to use only their centralized digital currencies, forbidding bitcoin and other decentralized crypto currencies. What I most fear is a bitcoin confiscation ordered by authoritarian governments towards btcs held in centralized exchanges. If something like this happened, I believe exchanges would deliver all the coins to governments without chances of reverting the decision.

If that happens then surely Bitcoin and other cryptos that are currently very high in price could return to like in 2018. But seeing this, it is not that easy for governments around the world to jointly ban and confiscate their people's Bitcoin and force to use a centralized one.  Although India has taken that policy in advance.  The US and many other countries are already open to developing technology.  They also need a competitor that is as equal as Bitcoin, does it already exist?
- The government has no evidence and no clue to consider the amount of Bitcoin are flooding the market, as an investor, maybe we all hid our bitcoins very well, even when the government investigated them, the results they got were nothing. In addition, bitcoin or stocks or many other forms of investment, where to invest is freedom and based on each person's preferences, binding is meaningless when things don't violate the law and money is in our possession, we have the right to decide, I would be interested in investing in a government or bank digital currency only if they understand this principle of equality and freedom.
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The worse part if that they can force people to use only their centralized digital currencies, forbidding bitcoin and other decentralized crypto currencies. What I most fear is a bitcoin confiscation ordered by authoritarian governments towards btcs held in centralized exchanges. If something like this happened, I believe exchanges would deliver all the coins to governments without chances of reverting the decision.

If that happens then surely Bitcoin and other cryptos that are currently very high in price could return to like in 2018. But seeing this, it is not that easy for governments around the world to jointly ban and confiscate their people's Bitcoin and force to use a centralized one.  Although India has taken that policy in advance.  The US and many other countries are already open to developing technology.  They also need a competitor that is as equal as Bitcoin, does it already exist?
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“China’s experiment is very large scale,” said J. Christopher Giancarlo, former chairman of the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission. “When the world arrives in Beijing next winter for the Winter Olympics, they are going to be using the new digital renminbi to shop and to stay in hotels and to buy meals in restaurants. The world is going to see a functioning [central bank digital currency] very soon, within the coming year.”

The U.S. is playing catch-up. In late February 2021, Fed Chairman Jerome Powell said the U.S. will engage with the public on the digital dollar this year.

Advocates contend central bank digital currencies can make cross-border transactions easier, promote financial inclusion and provide payment system stability. There are also privacy and surveillance risks with government-issued digital currencies. And in times of economic uncertainty, people may be more likely to pull their funds from commercial banks, accelerating a bank run.
Yes they have been talking about it like seriously, but all the central banks digital currencies I have seen so far were never a success. And to be sincere if the central bank in my country should release a digital currency I don’t think I am ready to be making use of any of those, because first of all they are not really cryptocurrencies, they are not any different form of asset, because they are for sure going to be the same fiat or pegged to the same fiat, maybe we should call them stablecoins I guess.

I can make the same transaction that I would do with these CBDCs by using my bank app or my card, so why all the stress of buying it and still using it for the same transactions? Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are different , because there are ways that they are different and they are pegged to nothing.
They are trying to deceive people that is why they are doing this, we know that we have no need for those coins at all but since governments have realized they cannot kill bitcoin then they are going the next best thing, they are trying to put imitations out there and then claim their coins are better than bitcoin, something similar to what we see in the altcoin market with the difference those coins are backed by central banks.

The plan is simple they will try to get people to adopt their coins instead of bitcoin and when we add that a coin owned by a government can be even more oppressive than the fiat system we have in place then it is easy to understand their motivations, but from our point of view it does not make sense to adopt those coins, but that is us, people with a decent amount of knowledge about the economy and bitcoin, but the rest of the people are not like us, so I expect in the future those coins to have decent success if they keep up the charade.
The worse part if that they can force people to use only their centralized digital currencies, forbidding bitcoin and other decentralized crypto currencies. What I most fear is a bitcoin confiscation ordered by authoritarian governments towards btcs held in centralized exchanges. If something like this happened, I believe exchanges would deliver all the coins to governments without chances of reverting the decision.
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If the matter is true and clear, bring crypto does indeed have a powerful influence on our lives what else in the pandemic situation and a lot of people who would like to learn to invest in this crypto, what else the bank's class would be, they would make a coin crypto and make control of their own coin, and I don't know if it would affect any other crypto Certain Banks I am less aware that this would have a better effect on crypto with the economic climate sweeping across the country for the better and that what the central bank does leads to crypto's progress and greater progress
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Intense interest in cryptocurrencies and the Covid-19 pandemic have sparked debate among central banks on whether they should issue digital currencies of their own.
This pandemic may be one of the reasons why many countries want to issue their own CBDC. Getting digitalized has good reasons to avoid this kind of condition in the future. And it also fits the development of technology.
And moreover, the government knows that many more people around the world are now also interested in cryptocurrency. And now, the government is trying to follow the development of technology based on digital currency although it is not similar to cryptocurrency, at least, it may use the technology of blockchain or other things similarly.
And I am wondering what is the impact directly to the cryptocurrency in the future since many more countries issue their CBDC.
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It is the pandemic situation that pushes banks and any establishments to offer such a cashless payment option. I absolutely agree that it will be suitable this time and people are happy with that. Digital transformations are known already and this also leads people to know about cryptocurrency particularly Bitcoin that even drag them into investing it. But somehow, many were still in doubts about Bitcoin, and instead of moving into digitalization, they were still sticking to fiat money.
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“China’s experiment is very large scale,” said J. Christopher Giancarlo, former chairman of the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission. “When the world arrives in Beijing next winter for the Winter Olympics, they are going to be using the new digital renminbi to shop and to stay in hotels and to buy meals in restaurants. The world is going to see a functioning [central bank digital currency] very soon, within the coming year.”

The U.S. is playing catch-up. In late February 2021, Fed Chairman Jerome Powell said the U.S. will engage with the public on the digital dollar this year.

Advocates contend central bank digital currencies can make cross-border transactions easier, promote financial inclusion and provide payment system stability. There are also privacy and surveillance risks with government-issued digital currencies. And in times of economic uncertainty, people may be more likely to pull their funds from commercial banks, accelerating a bank run.
Yes they have been talking about it like seriously, but all the central banks digital currencies I have seen so far were never a success. And to be sincere if the central bank in my country should release a digital currency I don’t think I am ready to be making use of any of those, because first of all they are not really cryptocurrencies, they are not any different form of asset, because they are for sure going to be the same fiat or pegged to the same fiat, maybe we should call them stablecoins I guess.

I can make the same transaction that I would do with these CBDCs by using my bank app or my card, so why all the stress of buying it and still using it for the same transactions? Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are different , because there are ways that they are different and they are pegged to nothing.
They are trying to deceive people that is why they are doing this, we know that we have no need for those coins at all but since governments have realized they cannot kill bitcoin then they are going the next best thing, they are trying to put imitations out there and then claim their coins are better than bitcoin, something similar to what we see in the altcoin market with the difference those coins are backed by central banks.

The plan is simple they will try to get people to adopt their coins instead of bitcoin and when we add that a coin owned by a government can be even more oppressive than the fiat system we have in place then it is easy to understand their motivations, but from our point of view it does not make sense to adopt those coins, but that is us, people with a decent amount of knowledge about the economy and bitcoin, but the rest of the people are not like us, so I expect in the future those coins to have decent success if they keep up the charade.
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I've heard about digital cryptocurrencies long before but it is still unclear did central banks of some countries really prepare full adoption of digital cryptocurrencies or they suppose to apply fiat money at the same time. Nevertheless those two assets are similar because both of them are centralized and operated by banks. So, probably, for an ordinary person that will be the same as using of standard card with PayPass or like that.
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“China’s experiment is very large scale,” said J. Christopher Giancarlo, former chairman of the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission. “When the world arrives in Beijing next winter for the Winter Olympics, they are going to be using the new digital renminbi to shop and to stay in hotels and to buy meals in restaurants. The world is going to see a functioning [central bank digital currency] very soon, within the coming year.”

The U.S. is playing catch-up. In late February 2021, Fed Chairman Jerome Powell said the U.S. will engage with the public on the digital dollar this year.

Advocates contend central bank digital currencies can make cross-border transactions easier, promote financial inclusion and provide payment system stability. There are also privacy and surveillance risks with government-issued digital currencies. And in times of economic uncertainty, people may be more likely to pull their funds from commercial banks, accelerating a bank run.
Yes they have been talking about it like seriously, but all the central banks digital currencies I have seen so far were never a success. And to be sincere if the central bank in my country should release a digital currency I don’t think I am ready to be making use of any of those, because first of all they are not really cryptocurrencies, they are not any different form of asset, because they are for sure going to be the same fiat or pegged to the same fiat, maybe we should call them stablecoins I guess.

I can make the same transaction that I would do with these CBDCs by using my bank app or my card, so why all the stress of buying it and still using it for the same transactions? Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies are different , because there are ways that they are different and they are pegged to nothing.
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Digital currencies have been talked about and widely used over the past years. There are virtual currencies and cryptocurrencies which fall into the category of digital currency. Virtual currencies are used specifically in a certain group, organization, or community. It has no real value outside the community it is being used to. Meanwhile, cryptocurrencies are digital currency that is acceptable in the majority part of the world. One best example is bitcoin.

I think the government is just taking advantage of the opportunity because a lot of people now are engaging with digital payments and transactions. This is one of the best ways to manage more people's accounts and widen their scope. If the central banks will slowly get into digital currency, surely there will be people who will patronize which will result in more money and more funds for them. Soon enough, they can manipulate the market flow and possibly be in control over people's identity and assets (because it is centralized, meaning it will require KYC for verification and prone to risk due to its custodial nature).
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Intense interest in cryptocurrencies and the Covid-19 pandemic have sparked debate among central banks on whether they should issue digital currencies of their own.

China has been in the lead in developing its own digital currency. It’s been working on the initiative since 2014. Chinese central bank officials have already conducted massive trials in major cities including Shenzhen, Chengdu and Hangzhou.

“China’s experiment is very large scale,” said J. Christopher Giancarlo, former chairman of the U.S. Commodity Futures Trading Commission. “When the world arrives in Beijing next winter for the Winter Olympics, they are going to be using the new digital renminbi to shop and to stay in hotels and to buy meals in restaurants. The world is going to see a functioning [central bank digital currency] very soon, within the coming year.”

The U.S. is playing catch-up. In late February 2021, Fed Chairman Jerome Powell said the U.S. will engage with the public on the digital dollar this year.

Advocates contend central bank digital currencies can make cross-border transactions easier, promote financial inclusion and provide payment system stability. There are also privacy and surveillance risks with government-issued digital currencies. And in times of economic uncertainty, people may be more likely to pull their funds from commercial banks, accelerating a bank run.

The source of that article can be found here: https://www.cnbc.com/2021/03/06/why-central-banks-want-digital-currencies.html


With the development of the digital sphere, banks understand that money can pass by them and something needs to be done, but there is still no exact confirmation of what will happen and how. On the example of China, we can see that the testing process is underway, but they also do not force this direction, since in order for everything to work as needed, a guarantee of performance and agreement with other countries is needed. You don't need to think that if one bank decides to work with crypto, then everyone will do it right away or it will be accepted by other countries. I believe that all this is not yet accurate and probably a lot of work is underway to resolve the problem in the financial sector.
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Many more will follow this year and not just banks, but even companies are doing the same thing as this company.
The other companies who never even believed in Crypto are now starting to expand here as well. Maybe they already see its potential?
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Maybe banks want to make their own cryptocurrencies? It seems to me that these issues are very important and banks are likely to influence the crypto market trying to take possession of all crypto assets.
The fact that the initiative comes from the Central Bank already tells us that it won't be a cryptocurrency, it won't be blockchain-based, won't be mined, and will most likely be fixed to assets. It looks to me more like an attempt to take control over the situation. The banks probably see the advantages of the crypto and feel threatened, so they came up with a supposed substitution, which, they hope, people will buy.
So yes, they will form their own digital currencies but not cryptocurrencies. Remember they are banks, so this will still be centralized.
No one prevents the central banks of states from creating their own digital currencies based on the blockchain, so the centralization is different. It is foolish to expect total decentralization from such organizations, which usually have the word "central" in their names. Decentralization is possible due to the nature of the blockchain itself, but in strictly limited quantities and under the strict control of the central bank Wink
But even if they offered decentralization who is going to believe that? Unlike bitcoin which has its source code as open source a coin like that is going to have closed source code so even if they were smart enough to offer this at the beginning of the coin we know that once they have enough people using their useless coins they will change the rules just as what they do with fiat now.

Only people that do not understand the true nature of bitcoin are going to consider using those coins, but for people that do like us then it is obvious we are never going to touch those coins no matter what their promises are.
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