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Topic: [CFNP] BestMixer Signature Campaign | Sr. Members - Legendary | Up to 0.01225BTC (Read 12501 times)

full member
Activity: 728
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What doesn't kill you, makes you stronger
I though I'd save you some time from searching the main thread, so here's the link: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.51180015
Let us all of us who want to talk about this situation continue in this thread and keep the Signature one clean so that latecomers can find the news and important announcements easier! Wink

Thank you Hhampuz for always being fair and transparent in your campaigns! You could have lied by saying they hadn't sent you this week's payment yet and keep the BTC for yourself, but you didn't.
777coin is the first campaign of yours I've joined and I'm glad to work you.
sr. member
Activity: 1008
Merit: 355
This is spreading so fast, the news is already been carried by our local newspaper. This guys generate pleasure is spreading only bad news to paint the community bad just so they can discourage more of our country men from joining cryptocurrency as the technology is becoming more popular in the country.

In total, Darknet markets generate some 800 million dollars yearly. Bestmixer.io’s clients are from all the world “with the emphasis on the United States, Germany and the Netherlands,” said FIOD.

The probe was launched following a report by the US-based cyber security firm McAfee.


I am sad for the bad news that BestMixer has now stopped operating because Dutch authorities made investigations and later on shut down the whole site, the servers and its related services. I know that mixers are playing big role in making sure that bitcoin transactions remained private and anonymous but this idea along can run counter to the power of the government especially using the anti-money laundering ground. I hope Bestmixer can find the way to get back into business under a different name and using servers in less dangerous country. Good to see that people involved in its promotions in this forum are paid of what is due to them. I also appreciate that Hhampuz is one of the excellent managers we have around.
legendary
Activity: 2408
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This is spreading so fast, the news is already been carried by our local newspaper. This guys generate pleasure is spreading only bad news to paint the community bad just so they can discourage more of our country men from joining cryptocurrency as the technology is becoming more popular in the country.

In total, Darknet markets generate some 800 million dollars yearly. Bestmixer.io’s clients are from all the world “with the emphasis on the United States, Germany and the Netherlands,” said FIOD.

The probe was launched following a report by the US-based cyber security firm McAfee.
legendary
Activity: 1584
Merit: 1280
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The whole process went like this:

...snip...

I don't want any of you to feel at risk, at the end of the day I offer a service and they reached out to me (I'm not in any danger, neither are you). As for the origin of the bitcoin, it should not matter too much at this point either. Although I've never come across any case where someone got screwed over just for receiving BTC from a questionable source. Time will tell I guess but as I previously mentioned, none of us should be in any danger.
Thanks for being transparent enough and opening up about the payments. Let us hope for the best.

Manager nor the participants never did something wrong in this campaign, and don't view mixer as an illegal thing as it's main purpose is to help users preserve it's privacy. There are a lot of mixers in the space, probably the reason for shut down is they violated the law and this could be related to anti money laundering.
Not just that. The mixed coins had a criminal origin and the service was used as a tool to cover the criminal money.

The Dutch FIOD has gathered information on all the interactions on this platform in the past year. This includes IP-addresses, transaction details, bitcoin addresses and chat messages. This information will now be analysed by the FIOD in cooperation with Europol and intelligence packages will be shared with other countries.

This news has more to do with people who used the mixer,but the transaction details is what needs to be taken into account.
legendary
Activity: 3108
Merit: 1290
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Will now apply to one of your Campaigns again,
Congrats, you got accepted.

.......its such a good thing I don't really use mixers.
How I wish this would be a lesson for us all.
Manager nor the participants never did something wrong in this campaign, and don't view mixer as an illegal thing as it's main purpose is to help users preserve it's privacy. There are a lot of mixers in the space, probably the reason for shut down is they violated the law and this could be related to anti money laundering.


sr. member
Activity: 742
Merit: 395
I am alive but in hibernation.
It can be anything whether they did something or they are in suspicion of doing something wrong.

Earning from campaign is good but guys do not rely on it (as seen by outburst by few user.)  that they got  upset.

I see Hamphuz started another campaign today for Bitcoin casino, please feel free to join.

What happened in this campaign is unfortunate but Hamphuz reputation (all gained due to his professionalism ) do not require any vouch.

Hope you all get the campaign soon.
hero member
Activity: 1246
Merit: 588
Payment received. It doesn't matter anymore who we should or shouldn't trust. We have completely done our part fairly and that should be enough.

The current issue is indeed serious and is actually scares me a little bit. I thought that this certain services are fair and legit as most of this are running through the market for several years already and have established some good reputation
legendary
Activity: 3276
Merit: 2442
Thanks for the payment Hhampuz.

But since the mixer were closed recently with some serious investigations taking place, I would like to know from where did you receive their payment and pay us? This was running in my mind right from today morning once the website was seized! If the payments for the whole campaign period were made from the mixed coins wouldn't that be little bit dangerous on your side and from our side? With coin tracking taking place, wouldn't that lead up straight to this campaign money?

Posting this not to create a confusion among the participants, but to be safer on the other side. Dutch officials claim the coins were of criminal origin and seems to be used for money laundering services, so if our payment coins were the mixed one wouldn't it create a havoc in the minds of participants? Not everyone who participated in the campaign would be aware of a mixing service, so liquidating might create a problem for them.  Sad

You can still mix them with chipmixer if you want to be safe  Roll Eyes

Feeling sorry for what happened both to the participants or hhampuz and the service itself. The space needs healthy competition and services.

And what if they have been running an investigation on chipmixer too? Can you guarantee it to me that it's not happening right now?

At this point using a mixing service is risky as hell and I would think twice before I move those campaign coins.
legendary
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1166
🤩Finally Married🤩
Final Payments have been sent out!


I'm really sorry about this abrupt end. It caught me completely off-guard and has made me question who we should/shouldn't work with moving forward. I've sent you all a final payment for the work you did leading up to this point, even if you made below the required amount of posts.

Please know that I'll gladly accept all of you in any of my future/ongoing campaigns. It has been my pleasure and I've gotten to know a few amazing people through this Campaign.

This a notice that I have receive the final payment for this campaign and yet what a big disappoint this is, but don't worry Hhampuz, this is not your fault, You're just being honest with your work and they have just only used your services to advertise their company. Don't put the blame on your self mate, it makes me cry 😭

Will now apply to one of your Campaigns again, How I wish this would be a lesson for us all. I really thought BestMixer was Good and might be considered as a competitor of Chipmixer, its such a good thing I don't really use mixers.



Thanks CM, for being great to us.
copper member
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It is a pity - I thought that the 12 weeks you mentioned would be guaranteed - unfortunately not everyone cares about their declarations.
@Hhampuz know that despite this situation, I think you are one of the best managers in this forum and I will be happy to join the next campaign conducted by you.

I am pretty sure you would have done the 12 weeks and even more(They seemed to be making a tone of BTC through the mixing service) if it wasn't for the unfortunate incident.
Hhampuz always tries to keep his word about the campaigns he manages, and he has taken Quality signature campaigns in this forum to a whole new level.
legendary
Activity: 3038
Merit: 6194
Meh.
Thanks for the payment Hhampuz.

But since the mixer were closed recently with some serious investigations taking place, I would like to know from where did you receive their payment and pay us? This was running in my mind right from today morning once the website was seized! If the payments for the whole campaign period were made from the mixed coins wouldn't that be little bit dangerous on your side and from our side? With coin tracking taking place, wouldn't that lead up straight to this campaign money?

Posting this not to create a confusion among the participants, but to be safer on the other side. Dutch officials claim the coins were of criminal origin and seems to be used for money laundering services, so if our payment coins were the mixed one wouldn't it create a havoc in the minds of participants? Not everyone who participated in the campaign would be aware of a mixing service, so liquidating might create a problem for them.  Sad

The whole process went like this:

The BestMixer account here at bitcointalk sent me a PM asking if I could run a Sig campaign for them. After negotiations we set it up and agreed on payrates and for how long the campaign would run. They started off by sending me 3BTC and 4 weeks later they sent me another 3BTC (and were scheduled to send me another 3BTC this week).

I did not ask nor did I check where the BTC came from, as I've never done no matter what transaction I've been involved with.

I've never had any contact with BestMixer outside of this forum, the account that messaged me never even gave me a name at the bottom of their message. I once asked if we could talk outside of bitcointalk since it would be easier and due to them not being online here that much. They declined and said this will be the only form of communication.

I don't want any of you to feel at risk, at the end of the day I offer a service and they reached out to me (I'm not in any danger, neither are you). As for the origin of the bitcoin, it should not matter too much at this point either. Although I've never come across any case where someone got screwed over just for receiving BTC from a questionable source. Time will tell I guess but as I previously mentioned, none of us should be in any danger.


It is a pity - I thought that the 12 weeks you mentioned would be guaranteed - unfortunately not everyone cares about their declarations.

@Hhampuz know that despite this situation, I think you are one of the best managers in this forum and I will be happy to join the next campaign conducted by you.

We can run it for 12 weeks if you'd like, let me just message europol and the dutch authorities and ask if they could give us some BTC for the campaign?
hero member
Activity: 714
Merit: 611
It is a pity - I thought that the 12 weeks you mentioned would be guaranteed - unfortunately not everyone cares about their declarations.

@Hhampuz know that despite this situation, I think you are one of the best managers in this forum and I will be happy to join the next campaign conducted by you.


edit:
saying: "unfortunately not everyone cares about their declarations" i ment bestmixer crew not our camaign manager!

edit2:
I'm sorry - I wrote this post in my emotions without reading how serious the matter is - my fault - I should first read a few posts not to focus only on one in bold about the end of the campaign

hero member
Activity: 2268
Merit: 579
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Thanks for the payment Hhampuz.
@Heisenberg_Hunter you need not to worry for none us know what the company did behind back door before.
legendary
Activity: 1484
Merit: 1491
I forgot more than you will ever know.
Thanks for the payment Hhampuz.

But since the mixer were closed recently with some serious investigations taking place, I would like to know from where did you receive their payment and pay us? This was running in my mind right from today morning once the website was seized! If the payments for the whole campaign period were made from the mixed coins wouldn't that be little bit dangerous on your side and from our side? With coin tracking taking place, wouldn't that lead up straight to this campaign money?

Posting this not to create a confusion among the participants, but to be safer on the other side. Dutch officials claim the coins were of criminal origin and seems to be used for money laundering services, so if our payment coins were the mixed one wouldn't it create a havoc in the minds of participants? Not everyone who participated in the campaign would be aware of a mixing service, so liquidating might create a problem for them.  Sad

You can still mix them with chipmixer if you want to be safe  Roll Eyes

Feeling sorry for what happened both to the participants or hhampuz and the service itself. The space needs healthy competition and services.
hero member
Activity: 3108
Merit: 577
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Thank you so much Hhampuz, you managed well this campaign. We're just tuning in for your next campaign.  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1584
Merit: 1280
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Thanks for the payment Hhampuz.

But since the mixer were closed recently with some serious investigations taking place, I would like to know from where did you receive their payment and pay us? This was running in my mind right from today morning once the website was seized! If the payments for the whole campaign period were made from the mixed coins wouldn't that be little bit dangerous on your side and from our side? With coin tracking taking place, wouldn't that lead up straight to this campaign money?

Posting this not to create a confusion among the participants, but to be safer on the other side. Dutch officials claim the coins were of criminal origin and seems to be used for money laundering services, so if our payment coins were the mixed one wouldn't it create a havoc in the minds of participants? Not everyone who participated in the campaign would be aware of a mixing service, so liquidating might create a problem for them.  Sad
hero member
Activity: 1022
Merit: 683
Love is the answer
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All good things must come to an end.

Payment acknowledged. The role these payments played in stabilizing me is recognized. Thank you.

Well said, everybody knew it can´t run forever anyway, but that came by a loud noise, surprisingly.

Looking forward how this will play out in the end, heads up to you, still one of the best BMs around, last but not least since the participants last works have been payed.

See you soon, in an other campaign, heads up!
legendary
Activity: 3038
Merit: 6194
Meh.
How could you  have known that they were being investigated by the FEDs... It is not your fault. Thanks for the early pay outs
Never say never...

Perhaps the feds even decided to keep the campaign going, i'm not sure how communications with HHampuz and Bestmixer went, but i have my suspicions that the site has been under control of the FIOD for longer than just today, to collect even more information about customers.

Excuse you? What are you implying?

*Obviously not implying that you had any knowledge of that if that were to be the case.*

I'm sorry. My post was wildly off-topic, and simply my thoughts with no real proof attached to them. Wasn't really appropriate of me to post that in this thread, if at all.

I read it wrong, no worries   Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1622
Thank you Hhampuz for another great cooperation. It was an honor for me to work for you. Bitvest, Rocked.run, Bestmixer ... hope to extend that list in then future.

5 great weeks, 177 posts and 99 merits earned for bestmixer.
legendary
Activity: 1946
Merit: 1427
The website literally says that they have been under investigation since June 2018 and that they have been collecting information since them.
I meant under direct control/ran by them. (Which isn't stated anywhere AFAIAA.)
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