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Topic: Chainalysis runs Electrum nodes. - page 3. (Read 523 times)

legendary
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September 22, 2021, 01:01:21 PM
#5
It's no surprise that Walletexplorer is actually Chainalysis and most other explorers are also tracking or collecting IP addresses but you can always run your own open source explorer to avoid this.
Same goes for Electrum wallet, and I was talking for some time that people should run their own nodes and use wallets with Tor support like Wasabi.
Maybe people don't care about privacy and think they have nothing to hide now, but this can bite them hard in future.

Time to run your own servers!
Even better is running your own Bitcoin node.

legendary
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September 22, 2021, 10:14:16 AM
#4
We've know this, but now it's confirmed. Or leaked. Or whatever.

Time to run your own servers!

Indeed, time to run our own servers. Correction: as pooya87 said, it's even better to just run your own full node.

And although it is something expected, the fact it's now public knowledge is imho important.
For example, maybe an update (or fork?) of Electrum will be developed for being privacy focused? Maybe with options for customizing when and which addresses to be queried, maybe with clients connecting to multiple servers to ask randomly for information? I guess that it also can be done. Of course, the top solution remains the use of own server.
copper member
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September 22, 2021, 10:06:08 AM
#3
But what I noticed is that most bitcoin users like the SPV wallets just because it requires little memory space for download and also work effectively, but it does not guarantee privacy, many people now are even using it directly with their IP address, an easy way to link bitcoin users to their real identity.

Yeah I'm not sure electrum works well for privacy either even if you use tor as you can still end up linking your whole wallet together as one (which might be a problem if you come to use an exchange).

I'd imagine, given the number of servers that are available, electrum and other spv clients will get different upgrades to help combat this issue and increase privacy (such as getting nodes to send the blockchain to clients for analysis or sending individual addresses to different notes to help make things more private - it'd be hard for electrum's team to enforce/and in some cases suggest the use of tor or vpns though).
legendary
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September 22, 2021, 09:41:44 AM
#2
The ways to privacy can be cost effective, but much more better than not having privacy. It is best to have the full blockchain and run your own node with Tor for privacy reasons.

But what I noticed is that most bitcoin users like the SPV wallets just because it requires little memory space for download and also work effectively, but it does not guarantee privacy, many people now are even using it directly with their IP address, an easy way to link bitcoin users to their real identity.

People can try to want to maximize privacy, but SPV wallets can truly not give effective result because it runs with servers that will connect to the blockchain, the server operators can easily know the addresses wallet users are using and also know other information. The best is to run full node with Tor which gives privacy.

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September 22, 2021, 09:14:34 AM
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https://www.coindesk.com/business/2021/09/21/leaked-slides-show-how-chainalysis-flags-crypto-suspects-for-cops/

Leaked Slides Show How Chainalysis Flags Crypto Suspects for Cops
Walletexplorer.com, a block explorer site secretly operated by Chainalysis, has provided law enforcement with “meaningful leads,” the documents say.

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Another way Chainalysis captures Bitcoin user data is by running nodes that verify transactions, the documents confirm. This allows the company to capture data leaks on the publicly accessible internet, or clearnet, from users’ simplified payment verification (SPV) wallets. Those services were designed to prioritize easy storage over foolproof security (although to be fair they are arguably more secure than wallets that rely on APIs to verify transactions).

“The downside to this design is that when the user wallet connects to the network, a variety of information is revealed - the user’s IP address, the full set of addresses in the wallet (used and unused) and the version of the wallet software,” according to the slide deck. “Chainalysis runs a series of nodes on the Bitcoin network ... and if a user connects to one of our nodes, we receive the above information.”

The picture below that paragraph shows the word Electrum.

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That Chainalysis runs its own data-capturing nodes would not come as a surprise to privacy-focused Bitcoiners; the community has long suspected as much.

“We’ve always known that they’re running nodes - it’s just a matter of which services they’re connected to,” said Colin Harper, the head of content at Luxor Tech, a bitcoin mining company.

We've know this, but now it's confirmed. Or leaked. Or whatever.

Time to run your own servers!
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