Tactical wait... OK
@SS2006: are you loosing this time?
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Topic: ChainProfit.com - 27+ BTC Paid | 140% Return | Running over four months now - page 10. (Read 28671 times)
May 20, 2015, 08:20:33 PM
May 20, 2015, 03:42:22 PM
Ok I tried out your "game" with 0.01BTC. When I played your game I added 0.01 to the game. Luckily other players did deposit more btc. 1st time I got 0.014 which was the 40% stated in your game. Ok. Round 2. I played 0.01 again. More people played. I got paid 0.0126 not 0.014. Is that your fee? I thought it was 40% return+ your initial bet for a total of 140% By my calculations you the game owes me 0.0014. 0.0126+0.0014=0.014
I think, your calculation was wrong at the first time. It was indeed correct for the second time. The actual return to a palyer against a bet of 0.01 BTC is always 0.0126 BTC not 0.014 BTC. When signed in, if you click on your Bet ID, it shows you the actual return of the bet. 10% is the site commission, out of which 5% goes to the owner and 5% goes to your referrer (or to the owner again if you have no referrer). It is clearly stated in their FAQ as well...
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2. How to play this game ?
A: If you have bitcoin, then it is very easy. Simply sign up and deposit the amount of bitcoin you want to play with. Now, mention the amount you want to invest in a round in the dashboard and click play. When there will be enough bitcoin deposited by other investors after you to return 140% of your investment, it will automatically be returned to you after deducting 10% commission.
A: If you have bitcoin, then it is very easy. Simply sign up and deposit the amount of bitcoin you want to play with. Now, mention the amount you want to invest in a round in the dashboard and click play. When there will be enough bitcoin deposited by other investors after you to return 140% of your investment, it will automatically be returned to you after deducting 10% commission.
Off topic - @tidus1097 Is there any avatar campaign going on for bitcoin knives ? Then I'd like to join
Ah, thank you for the clarification. That does make sense now. As for the bitcoin-knives, no unfortunately a major of order of mine was misdirected and lost by the PO. I'm in the process now of claims with them :/ Once I do get my shipment, I can resume updating the site with more knives. Unfortunately I cannot purchase no more til I get this resolved with the PO. So right now it would not be buisness wise to invest in advertising since I don't have much I can sell right now
May 20, 2015, 03:30:53 PM
Ok I tried out your "game" with 0.01BTC. When I played your game I added 0.01 to the game. Luckily other players did deposit more btc. 1st time I got 0.014 which was the 40% stated in your game. Ok. Round 2. I played 0.01 again. More people played. I got paid 0.0126 not 0.014. Is that your fee? I thought it was 40% return+ your initial bet for a total of 140% By my calculations you the game owes me 0.0014. 0.0126+0.0014=0.014
I think, your calculation was wrong at the first time. It was indeed correct for the second time. The actual return to a palyer against a bet of 0.01 BTC is always 0.0126 BTC not 0.014 BTC. When signed in, if you click on your Bet ID, it shows you the actual return of the bet. 10% is the site commission, out of which 5% goes to the owner and 5% goes to your referrer (or to the owner again if you have no referrer). It is clearly stated in their FAQ as well...
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2. How to play this game ?
A: If you have bitcoin, then it is very easy. Simply sign up and deposit the amount of bitcoin you want to play with. Now, mention the amount you want to invest in a round in the dashboard and click play. When there will be enough bitcoin deposited by other investors after you to return 140% of your investment, it will automatically be returned to you after deducting 10% commission.
A: If you have bitcoin, then it is very easy. Simply sign up and deposit the amount of bitcoin you want to play with. Now, mention the amount you want to invest in a round in the dashboard and click play. When there will be enough bitcoin deposited by other investors after you to return 140% of your investment, it will automatically be returned to you after deducting 10% commission.
Off topic - @tidus1097 Is there any avatar campaign going on for bitcoin knives ? Then I'd like to join
May 20, 2015, 12:31:09 PM
Ok I tried out your "game" with 0.01BTC. When I played your game I added 0.01 to the game. Luckily other players did deposit more btc. 1st time I got 0.014 which was the 40% stated in your game. Ok. Round 2. I played 0.01 again. More people played. I got paid 0.0126 not 0.014. Is that your fee? I thought it was 40% return+ your initial bet for a total of 140% By my calculations you the game owes me 0.0014. 0.0126+0.0014=0.014
May 20, 2015, 11:37:43 AM
When user enters Dashboard, you generate new, unique ID (you ensure uniqueness by using big numbers like 256-bit, or maintain a db of already used IDs - this could be as simple as two column table - ID + timestamp - upon generation you check if it has not been used within last 5-6 days).
at this point you have dashboard with new hidden unique-id field, that has never been used (submitted) before.
Note: you do not write the id to the table now.
When user submits his/her bet, first thing you do is to check whether it has already been used. If yes, proper message is thrown straight to the user face :-)
If no, bet is accepted and id is added to table.
old (stale) ids could be cleaned once per day via cron job, or per bet submission, or per unsuccessful bet submission <- my favorite option, means: random, but frequently enough.
If you stick to 5 days worth of IDs, you would end up with a table similar to active part of dashboard, which is as per now about 43 records.
I understand what you are saying, but I still fail to understand how this will solve the problem faced by SS2006 ? Because, user may want to submit two consecutive bets standing on the dashboard, which would have same effect of refreshing the page. If the first (desired action) is allowed, second (undesired action) will be automatically allowed. Rather, I can add an extra check box, which will be unchecked in each page load. Form will be submitted, only if this box is checked. But, this would probably create a bad user experience. So, I'm keeping it at hand as last resort.at this point you have dashboard with new hidden unique-id field, that has never been used (submitted) before.
Note: you do not write the id to the table now.
When user submits his/her bet, first thing you do is to check whether it has already been used. If yes, proper message is thrown straight to the user face :-)
If no, bet is accepted and id is added to table.
old (stale) ids could be cleaned once per day via cron job, or per bet submission, or per unsuccessful bet submission <- my favorite option, means: random, but frequently enough.
If you stick to 5 days worth of IDs, you would end up with a table similar to active part of dashboard, which is as per now about 43 records.
There is much simpler method: after receiving a POST from web form, use redirect (header("Location: /")) to move player one step further. Thus, when he/she will press F5 next time, new page (GET /) will be reloaded, not the old one.
Can I submit my CV for a position of project technical lead at CrazyPonzi.com? :-)
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Best regards,
(-) Szycha.
LoLz... let this project grow. --
Best regards,
(-) Szycha.
You do not know my financial expectations yet. They will not kill the project - they will grow with it instead ;-)
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Cheers,
(-) Szycha.
May 20, 2015, 05:59:56 AM
This is the best site. it's more of a gamblinb site, then a ponzi. Just like a roulette table.
Nice to know that you liked the game. In fact, I am working on a rebranding - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/paying-01-btc-for-rebranding-escrowed-1065588
May 20, 2015, 12:50:10 AM
This is the best site. it's more of a gamblinb site, then a ponzi. Just like a roulette table.
May 19, 2015, 05:55:56 PM
When user enters Dashboard, you generate new, unique ID (you ensure uniqueness by using big numbers like 256-bit, or maintain a db of already used IDs - this could be as simple as two column table - ID + timestamp - upon generation you check if it has not been used within last 5-6 days).
at this point you have dashboard with new hidden unique-id field, that has never been used (submitted) before.
Note: you do not write the id to the table now.
When user submits his/her bet, first thing you do is to check whether it has already been used. If yes, proper message is thrown straight to the user face :-)
If no, bet is accepted and id is added to table.
old (stale) ids could be cleaned once per day via cron job, or per bet submission, or per unsuccessful bet submission <- my favorite option, means: random, but frequently enough.
If you stick to 5 days worth of IDs, you would end up with a table similar to active part of dashboard, which is as per now about 43 records.
I understand what you are saying, but I still fail to understand how this will solve the problem faced by SS2006 ? Because, user may want to submit two consecutive bets standing on the dashboard, which would have same effect of refreshing the page. If the first (desired action) is allowed, second (undesired action) will be automatically allowed. Rather, I can add an extra check box, which will be unchecked in each page load. Form will be submitted, only if this box is checked. But, this would probably create a bad user experience. So, I'm keeping it at hand as last resort.at this point you have dashboard with new hidden unique-id field, that has never been used (submitted) before.
Note: you do not write the id to the table now.
When user submits his/her bet, first thing you do is to check whether it has already been used. If yes, proper message is thrown straight to the user face :-)
If no, bet is accepted and id is added to table.
old (stale) ids could be cleaned once per day via cron job, or per bet submission, or per unsuccessful bet submission <- my favorite option, means: random, but frequently enough.
If you stick to 5 days worth of IDs, you would end up with a table similar to active part of dashboard, which is as per now about 43 records.
Perhaps our friend used some broken browser (msie?) :-) that did not ask him / her about form re-submission; or is a victim of some malware?
I dont think it is malware, because in that case he would have faced this problem for all his bets. It might be an old browser. May be some mobile browser too. Unless he clarifies, we will never know.Can I submit my CV for a position of project technical lead at CrazyPonzi.com? :-)
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Best regards,
(-) Szycha.
LoLz... let this project grow. --
Best regards,
(-) Szycha.
May 19, 2015, 12:59:47 PM
When user enters Dashboard, you generate new, unique ID (you ensure uniqueness by using big numbers like 256-bit, or maintain a db of already used IDs - this could be as simple as two column table - ID + timestamp - upon generation you check if it has not been used within last 5-6 days).
at this point you have dashboard with new hidden unique-id field, that has never been used (submitted) before.
Note: you do not write the id to the table now.
When user submits his/her bet, first thing you do is to check whether it has already been used. If yes, proper message is thrown straight to the user face :-)
If no, bet is accepted and id is added to table.
old (stale) ids could be cleaned once per day via cron job, or per bet submission, or per unsuccessful bet submission <- my favorite option, means: random, but frequently enough.
If you stick to 5 days worth of IDs, you would end up with a table similar to active part of dashboard, which is as per now about 43 records.
Perhaps our friend used some broken browser (msie?) :-) that did not ask him / her about form re-submission; or is a victim of some malware?
Can I submit my CV for a position of project technical lead at CrazyPonzi.com? :-)
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Best regards,
(-) Szycha.
at this point you have dashboard with new hidden unique-id field, that has never been used (submitted) before.
Note: you do not write the id to the table now.
When user submits his/her bet, first thing you do is to check whether it has already been used. If yes, proper message is thrown straight to the user face :-)
If no, bet is accepted and id is added to table.
old (stale) ids could be cleaned once per day via cron job, or per bet submission, or per unsuccessful bet submission <- my favorite option, means: random, but frequently enough.
If you stick to 5 days worth of IDs, you would end up with a table similar to active part of dashboard, which is as per now about 43 records.
Perhaps our friend used some broken browser (msie?) :-) that did not ask him / her about form re-submission; or is a victim of some malware?
Can I submit my CV for a position of project technical lead at CrazyPonzi.com? :-)
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Best regards,
(-) Szycha.
May 19, 2015, 12:15:38 PM
Daily withdrawal has been made for today...
https://blockchain.info/tx/48bb942bbe7506b75983702ab56e5bae6d56ffebc4436fef8616a9679f643518
Thanks for pointing out the time difference. I did not notice that. In this case, I think, your guess is right. He refreshed and ignored the form re-submission warning, that is expected to be given by the browser.
New bets are generated with new ID. The random number field that you are suggesting will generate a new random number for each form submission. How the system will know whether the new bets are due to intentional or unintentional form submission ?
https://blockchain.info/tx/48bb942bbe7506b75983702ab56e5bae6d56ffebc4436fef8616a9679f643518
Strange.
Look at the times of your bets - if it would be doubled by webpage / browser, your bets would be separated by seconds. They are however separated by minutes.
Perhaps you press 'F5' to refresh page few minutes after your bet? You should rather click through page (click on the 'Dashboard' link for instance), or logout to make sure nothing would go wrong.
Look at the times of your bets - if it would be doubled by webpage / browser, your bets would be separated by seconds. They are however separated by minutes.
Perhaps you press 'F5' to refresh page few minutes after your bet? You should rather click through page (click on the 'Dashboard' link for instance), or logout to make sure nothing would go wrong.
Thanks for pointing out the time difference. I did not notice that. In this case, I think, your guess is right. He refreshed and ignored the form re-submission warning, that is expected to be given by the browser.
Creators could add a random field of type 'hidden' to bet form, and register their usage, not letting bets with already used ID.
New bets are generated with new ID. The random number field that you are suggesting will generate a new random number for each form submission. How the system will know whether the new bets are due to intentional or unintentional form submission ?
May 19, 2015, 02:15:47 AM
Daily withdrawal has been made for today...
https://blockchain.info/tx/bdca110cd5b3197b46e2c361faac6c8cc0c80bdd4b1e4b553b1959eac56dde8c
If you feel this service is trustworthy, please consider to leave +ve trust feedback.
I think it is happening because your browser has form auto-complete on and you have clicked the play button twice by mistake. Unless the click event is fired twice with the form filled up with value, this can not happen. If it was a bug, it would have happened for everyone. It is good if you please let me know your device and browser in PM, so that I can verify if there is any device or browser specific issue.
https://blockchain.info/tx/bdca110cd5b3197b46e2c361faac6c8cc0c80bdd4b1e4b553b1959eac56dde8c
If you feel this service is trustworthy, please consider to leave +ve trust feedback.
when I hit 'play', it duplicates my deposits. So stupid, its happened twice on 2 diff days now. Not impressed
The 0.06 and the 0.06876
The 0.06 and the 0.06876
I think it is happening because your browser has form auto-complete on and you have clicked the play button twice by mistake. Unless the click event is fired twice with the form filled up with value, this can not happen. If it was a bug, it would have happened for everyone. It is good if you please let me know your device and browser in PM, so that I can verify if there is any device or browser specific issue.
Strange.
Look at the times of your bets - if it would be doubled by webpage / browser, your bets would be separated by seconds. They are however separated by minutes.
Perhaps you press 'F5' to refresh page few minutes after your bet? You should rather click through page (click on the 'Dashboard' link for instance), or logout to make sure nothing would go wrong.
Creators could add a random field of type 'hidden' to bet form, and register their usage, not letting bets with already used ID.
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szycha
May 18, 2015, 06:49:31 PM
Thought to gamble a bit, created an account and deposited 0.03 BTC to it. It's got 4 confirmations on the network now, but still hasn't shown up on the balance. It seems people with funds in still keep playing, but how many confirms do you require for the funds to show up?
This thing has happened before as they use blockchain API which sometimes take more than usual time to forward a Tx.
So how long till my balance updates.I deposited 0.1 BTC hours ago and 9 confirmations later it's still 0. WTH?
Ideally once a payment is deposited to an address it should get forwarded to another and expected to show up within 3 confirmations. Can you please post/PM your Tx ID ?
Username: Schemer
Yes I identified your deposit yesterday and sent 0.0005 BTC from our end to check what is happening. The problem is that, like many other application, I am also using blockchain.info API to create this intermediary address on which I have no control. Since yesterday blockchain.info API is having a huge backlog in forwarding funds. I created a ticket with their support and this is what they said...
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There may be a delay with funds forwarding, but they will eventually arrive. Sorry for any inconvenience.
Lot of applications are affected by this issue and I hope they solve it soon.
But eventually the balance appears...
My account balance finaly updated.Took more than 24 hrs but my coins arrived intact.
#Legit.
#Legit.
I'd suggest to keep a note whether your balance is getting forwarded to a new address or not. As soon as it is forwarded, it should appear in your site wallet.
May 18, 2015, 05:58:38 PM
Thought to gamble a bit, created an account and deposited 0.03 BTC to it. It's got 4 confirmations on the network now, but still hasn't shown up on the balance. It seems people with funds in still keep playing, but how many confirms do you require for the funds to show up?
May 18, 2015, 09:51:43 AM
Daily withdrawal has been made for today...
https://blockchain.info/tx/bdca110cd5b3197b46e2c361faac6c8cc0c80bdd4b1e4b553b1959eac56dde8c
If you feel this service is trustworthy, please consider to leave +ve trust feedback.
I think it is happening because your browser has form auto-complete on and you have clicked the play button twice by mistake. Unless the click event is fired twice with the form filled up with value, this can not happen. If it was a bug, it would have happened for everyone. It is good if you please let me know your device and browser in PM, so that I can verify if there is any device or browser specific issue.
https://blockchain.info/tx/bdca110cd5b3197b46e2c361faac6c8cc0c80bdd4b1e4b553b1959eac56dde8c
If you feel this service is trustworthy, please consider to leave +ve trust feedback.
when I hit 'play', it duplicates my deposits. So stupid, its happened twice on 2 diff days now. Not impressed
The 0.06 and the 0.06876
The 0.06 and the 0.06876
I think it is happening because your browser has form auto-complete on and you have clicked the play button twice by mistake. Unless the click event is fired twice with the form filled up with value, this can not happen. If it was a bug, it would have happened for everyone. It is good if you please let me know your device and browser in PM, so that I can verify if there is any device or browser specific issue.
May 18, 2015, 02:49:58 AM
when I hit 'play', it duplicates my deposits. So stupid, its happened twice on 2 diff days now. Not impressed
The 0.06 and the 0.06876
The 0.06 and the 0.06876
May 17, 2015, 06:24:28 PM
4. Is referral program working? - NO, I did not got additional money on account A after creating and funding account B (or I miss something, maybe it should be more clearly stated in some sort of Account History page to avoid doubt).
Can you please confirm that account A did not get 5% referral commission when account B won a bet ? If yes, can you please PM me the details account A, account B and for which bet ID account A did not get any commission ? Please note that, referral commission is not given on investment, but on return.5. Is the game transparent? - to some extent only, there is no 'account history' nor deposit / withdrawal dates (there are amounts, however). There is no information WHY investment expired (i.e. bank roll amount at the time of expiration).
I am providing Tx hash & amount for both Deposit & Withdrawal history. Is not that enough because, once you put that Tx hash in a block explorer, it gives you corresponding date automatically ?
Bank roll is a very dynamic one. I derive it dynamically and only compare it to update a pending to paid. Expiry function is independent of bankroll. When a bet pending time goes to zero it expires. So, providing a past bankroll for an expired bet is technically difficult for me.
As payment proof, I have just added this page - www.crazyponzi.com/proof.php
May 17, 2015, 06:07:13 PM
Just increased the minimum bet amount from 0.001 BTC to 0.01 BTC. Hopefully it does NOT affect anyone and make the game more interesting for all...
Not a good idea, really. After all payments received, my balance is 0.00635144, thus < 0.01.Since I do not want to risk more money I can comfortably afford to loose, I will have to walk away.
Sad.
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I got this proposal from the players itself...
Daily withdrawal has been made for today...
https://blockchain.info/tx/ef65bca74cc79b0725c1c9ec48aeb4a52c48c89cc72d9295456a848aebd76972
https://blockchain.info/tx/ef65bca74cc79b0725c1c9ec48aeb4a52c48c89cc72d9295456a848aebd76972
Consider to raise minimum investment to 0.01 BTC. The current margin of 0.001 BTC is too low. I think it is time to scale up. Would like to know other player's opinion as well...
Well... that is a nice suggestion. But, it would probably be better to wait a few more days before implementing it. People like to test the authenticity of the site with low amount, especially when so many scams are around in this industry.
Keep up the work and generate interest. That's all.
...though it is not permanent. I'll keep it like this for a week or so and gauge the player's interest. If it goes against, I'll bring that down again. There was in fact a disparity of investment for which big investments were not paid out. So, I thought increasing it might help players in general. For me, it is a double edged sword. In one hand, I'll lose out some players, on the other hand, if payout rises, so does my commission.
It seems players did not like this increase of minimum bet amount from 0.001 BTC to 0.01 BTC. So, I am changing it back to 0.001 BTC again.
May 17, 2015, 04:43:47 PM
Disagree.
I successfully withdrew more than I invested. Just a matter of math. And (perhaps) luck.
I successfully withdrew more than I invested. Just a matter of math. And (perhaps) luck.
...Yeah after you covered your own 'investment'. LOLLOL?
I deposited 0.001 on account A and withdrew 0.00250997
I also deposited 0.004 on account B and withdrew 0.00635144
Whoa! I earned 0.00386141 BTC! But in terms of ROI I got 77.2%! Not a big cash, but at this stage of www.CrazyPonzi.com/?r=228 it is just what one can get. Unfortunately, the owners decided to kill their own project by increasing minimum investment by 10 (TEN) times. That could be feasible if number of players increased by minimum 5 times, but not now. Thus I think it is wise to step back before it dies completely (somehow no-one is investing for two days now, right?)
Anyway, to sum it all up:
1. Can anyone play? - yes
2. Are the rules clear? - more or less - yes, see my previous post for details: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11381777
3. Can I withdraw all my money? - yes, at daily basis
4. Is referral program working? - NO, I did not got additional money on account A after creating and funding account B (or I miss something, maybe it should be more clearly stated in some sort of Account History page to avoid doubt).
5. Is the game transparent? - to some extent only, there is no 'account history' nor deposit / withdrawal dates (there are amounts, however). There is no information WHY investment expired (i.e. bank roll amount at the time of expiration).
May 17, 2015, 08:32:40 AM
This turkey's dead. Only the same desperate people try to keep their 'investments' rotating by adding more and more into the pot.
SMH
SMH
Disagree.
I successfully withdrew more than I invested. Just a matter of math. And (perhaps) luck.
...Yeah after you covered your own 'investment'. LOL May 17, 2015, 08:12:35 AM
This turkey's dead. Only the same desperate people try to keep their 'investments' rotating by adding more and more into the pot.
SMH
SMH
Disagree.
I successfully withdrew more than I invested. Just a matter of math. And (perhaps) luck.
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