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Topic: Chances of signature campigns being removed from this forum - page 2. (Read 774 times)

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There are quite a few factors involved in valuing advertising. Impressions are not really all that useful, what you need to know are the clickthrough rates, and the visits that result in sales. Second and third page hits and revisits are probably the most useful of the metrics, but only the advertisers know those stats. Most of the members posting here seem to be short of money, and are unlikely to be of value to advertisers. The bulk of the posts are of very low quality, and therefore are unlikely to stimulate buying actions in visitors to the site.

Improving the quality of the threads, and the addition of good commercial discussions should attract higher value views, and this could lead to an increase in potential revenue.

In my opinion, it is very much complicated. I am not encouraging people making shit posts but you can find these campaigns getting some traffic and clicks through keywords made on some of those shit posts as well. Obviously, the campaigns are benefiting from the process as we have some that have continued for years.

Improving the quality of forum is required for getting direct advertisement deals. If a advertiser stats evaluating the quality of posts being made here, he might not be comfortable paying for direct advertisements here.
legendary
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There are quite a few factors involved in valuing advertising. Impressions are not really all that useful, what you need to know are the clickthrough rates, and the visits that result in sales. Second and third page hits and revisits are probably the most useful of the metrics, but only the advertisers know those stats. Most of the members posting here seem to be short of money, and are unlikely to be of value to advertisers. The bulk of the posts are of very low quality, and therefore are unlikely to stimulate buying actions in visitors to the site.

Improving the quality of the threads, and the addition of good commercial discussions should attract higher value views, and this could lead to an increase in potential revenue.
hero member
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I read comment by the admin that if the merit system fails to reduce spam from the website, he might take decisions like removing the signature campaigns. This is scary for me.  I am not eligible for any campaign yet but I was hopeful to get enrolled in one. If this is going to be implemented for sure, I might not be comfortable participating in discussions. I will though read posts by other members for information needed.

I do not think that'll ever  happen, FYI signature campaign guys don't get paid for posting crap! They're under stricter rules and their posts are always under scrutiny. The campaign managers I have been under are very strict and another fun fact for you, look at Chip Maker campaigners merit collection, and the stats posted by Dark Star. Signature Campaigns have always kept this forum clean, and those who fail to do so are removed.
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There's no need to worry about signature campaigns being removed or not. Knowledge they say is power. With the right knowledge you can garner from the forum if you go through the forum well, can turn you into a pro trader or good investor and you will need not participate in bounties again as money won't be your major concern. First stick around the forum and learn one or two stuffs.
legendary
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I read comment by the admin that if the merit system fails to reduce spam from the website, he might take decisions like removing the signature campaigns. This is scary for me.  I am not eligible for any campaign yet but I was hopeful to get enrolled in one. If this is going to be implemented for sure, I might not be comfortable participating in discussions. I will though read posts by other members for information needed.
If this is carried out and signature campaign is stopped in this forum, it will have a devastating effect both on the devs and their ICOs as well as forum members here. Believe me here will become a graveyard of a sort overnight. Every dev knows he has to approach this forum to get his advert done and that is why most forms have compulsory columns for BTT forum name and rank.

Whether we admit posting for reward or not, all of us  will surely be affected. I would like for Theymos to embark on a one month trial of this and see what happens
hero member
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I read comment by the admin that if the merit system fails to reduce spam from the website, he might take decisions like removing the signature campaigns. This is scary for me.  I am not eligible for any campaign yet but I was hopeful to get enrolled in one. If this is going to be implemented for sure, I might not be comfortable participating in discussions. I will though read posts by other members for information needed.

In my opinion, without signature campaigns, the rank of this forum would decrease so it's unlikely signature campaigns will be banned on this forum.
What do you mean by rank? Like Alexa rank? Who even cares about that, yeah the traffic will surely decrease that's the main reason I believe why theymos hasn't removed signatures yet. More traffic = more ad revenue, but obviously he can't just sit and see the forum filled with meaningless garbage so I think this time he is seriously considering about this.
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Signature campaign will not be remove from the forum. You know why? There are lot of investors here in this organization or forum. Removing signature campaign will be also like removing some investments in bitcoin. Some of the members here like me are still waiting for the right to time to invest. So if you think that signature campaign will not be in help for possible investment then you are wrong. Think of it the bitcoin invesment from signature campaign increases the investment proceeds. And it will also help the investors to choose from the links given or posted as signature campaign.
hero member
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I read comment by the admin that if the merit system fails to reduce spam from the website, he might take decisions like removing the signature campaigns. This is scary for me.  I am not eligible for any campaign yet but I was hopeful to get enrolled in one. If this is going to be implemented for sure, I might not be comfortable participating in discussions. I will though read posts by other members for information needed.

In my opinion, without signature campaigns, the rank of this forum would decrease so it's unlikely signature campaigns will be banned on this forum.
sr. member
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I'm sure no one will ban signature campaigns. The members of this forum have the dividends from signatures. The forum administration reserves dividends from the popularity of the forum. Who is able to voluntarily destroy what was created almost 10 years? My opinion is that managers of companies are more interested in the fight against spam.
sr. member
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I read comment by the admin that if the merit system fails to reduce spam from the website, he might take decisions like removing the signature campaigns. This is scary for me.  I am not eligible for any campaign yet but I was hopeful to get enrolled in one. If this is going to be implemented for sure, I might not be comfortable participating in discussions. I will though read posts by other members for information needed.

Anything can happen but can you quote the link where theymos said this statement.  Do you even know what a Signature campaign or bounty is ?
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Here you can read it:
So what are you proposing that be done against shady behavior regarding the merit system? Nothing? Or are you simply saying that *we could/should* tag them, but that some of the tag's by actmyname were unwarranted?

I think that tagging may be appropriate in particularly obvious cases, or particularly egregious cases involving hundreds of merit points and several posts. But generally you should start out by assuming good faith, and only change that opinion as the evidence really piles up. Tagging someone immediately after an instance of apparently-inexplicable meriting is too trigger-happy IMO. Even if it is a case of illegitimate merit, even hundreds of illegitimate merit points are not much of a problem IMO, so you have to ask whether it's worthwhile to possibly make a mistake by tagging someone who is merely suspicious.

Now, I'm not 100% sure that actmyname's ratings are outside of what I would consider appropriate, which is why I didn't take action to immediately remove him. But from what I've seen, it does seem likely that he is too trigger-happy.
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How do signature campaigns generate revenue for Theymos?

Do the campaigns have to pay the forum to operate here? Or does the forum get a commission for every ad clicked through? Or is it because the campaigns drive traffic to the forum, which allows Theymos et al to charge more for the in-between-post ads?

I can't think of any other possibilities, but I'm still not confident that they get paid directly from campaigns.

Education please.

It's that one. There would be a lot fewer people using the forum if they weren't getting paid to do so. Advertisers look at the site statistics before bidding for the advertising slots.

Last round resulted in 1.74 BTC revenue.
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hero member
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So what if it will get removed? Is it a major loss to this forum?
Are you kidding?  It would be huge.  That's why signature campaigns still exist, because they generate a lot of revenue for themos et al.

How do signature campaigns generate revenue for Theymos?

Do the campaigns have to pay the forum to operate here? Or does the forum get a commission for every ad clicked through? Or is it because the campaigns drive traffic to the forum, which allows Theymos et al to charge more for the in-between-post ads?

I can't think of any other possibilities, but I'm still not confident that they get paid directly from campaigns.

Education please.
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Also, I'm not sure where OP read anything about this, as I've not seen any recent posts where theymos or anyone else was seriously considering it.  But I'll admit I could have missed it.

Even though it is not serious talk,  i think the OP pertaining to this one .

First, most people complaining about merit are constantly posting garbage, and should not rank-up. The forum is not a welfare system; you don't run through a few hoops and then get paid for doing something that nobody actually wants. I like that good forum members can make money, especially when said forum members are in poorer countries and this is a major opportunity for them. I very much do not want to destroy the sig-ad/airdrop/bounty "industry". But I am not going to tolerate people posting garbage upon garbage. If the merit system completely fails and I can't think of anything else to replace it, then my next step will probably be to completely remove all ways for forum users to make money from posting (eg. removing signatures entirely).


It will just happen when theymos got no other option on how to eradicate shitpostere here in the forum
legendary
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So what if it will get removed? Is it a major loss to this forum?
Are you kidding?  It would be huge.  That's why signature campaigns still exist, because they generate a lot of revenue for themos et al.  So even though the campaigns incentivize shitposting and have driven down the quality of discussion here, they haven't been banned.  Even though I've been participating in campaigns since late 2015, I would not be crushed if Theymos did ban them.  It's pretty obvious they're subsidizing lazy 3rd world scunts who care nothing about this forum and are more than willing to wreck it, so long as they get paid.  I would love to see such individuals have to go out and get a real job...but I seriously doubt it's going to happen. 

Also, I'm not sure where OP read anything about this, as I've not seen any recent posts where theymos or anyone else was seriously considering it.  But I'll admit I could have missed it.
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I read comment by the admin that if the merit system fails to reduce spam from the website, he might take decisions like removing the signature campaigns. This is scary for me.  I am not eligible for any campaign yet but I was hopeful to get enrolled in one. If this is going to be implemented for sure, I might not be comfortable participating in discussions. I will though read posts by other members for information needed.

Yes. They will be banned. Go away. We don't want posters like you anyway. It's clear you don't actually want to contribute anything especially if you can't earn and I doubt you'd get the required amount of merit to move up in ranks anyway so I wouldn't want you to waste your precious time.

I am just wondering how scam coins exist.
Developer of coins announcing coin here and giving hundreds and thousands of dollars in campaign and collecting millions dollars. Afterwards they leave the forum (and no where to found). For few dollars people are also promoting them.
I think forum can do KYC for Alt coin developers, I hope if KYC is done it will deter people from scamming. (Because they know they can be traced)

It is more important to protect the investors from scam. Closing of bounties and more regulation in Alt coin ANN will  benefit the forum ( less spam and scam) and people. (Not losing money to scammers).

Reason I am saying that because 99 percent coin in coinmarketcap will redirect to bitcointalk.org for their announcement.
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I read comment by the admin that if the merit system fails to reduce spam from the website, he might take decisions like removing the signature campaigns. This is scary for me.  I am not eligible for any campaign yet but I was hopeful to get enrolled in one. If this is going to be implemented for sure, I might not be comfortable participating in discussions. I will though read posts by other members for information needed.

calm friend of this new merit system running
I think many members of this forum have not understood it yet ...
the mederator will surely wait for progress before stepping
sr. member
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I read comment by the admin that if the merit system fails to reduce spam from the website, he might take decisions like removing the signature campaigns. This is scary for me.  I am not eligible for any campaign yet but I was hopeful to get enrolled in one. If this is going to be implemented for sure, I might not be comfortable participating in discussions. I will though read posts by other members for information needed.

Anything can happen but can you quote the link where theymos said this statement.  Do you even know what a Signature campaign or bounty is ?
The Bounties can never end because many ICO and Services are paying to get their products get more visibility.

Have you ever thought of Ads in a TV channel. If one TV channel stop taking ad, will the companies stop advertising ? NO.

They will move on to the 2nd best Bitcoin Forum and start their advertisements.
legendary
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I read comment by the admin that if the merit system fails to reduce spam from the website, he might take decisions like removing the signature campaigns. This is scary for me.  I am not eligible for any campaign yet but I was hopeful to get enrolled in one. If this is going to be implemented for sure, I might not be comfortable participating in discussions. I will though read posts by other members for information needed.

Your account is less than a month old and you've only posted about a dozen times. You do not need to even think about signature campaigns, their potential removal or anything else regarding them. This should not be scary for you, because it does not affect you in anyway. You are not eligible for any campaign now and if I had to guess you most likely will never be eligible for any reputable campaign. Do not expect to get enrolled into a campaign. If you are not comfortable participating in discussions, because of the possibility that your potential future earnings are up for removal then you are not needed nor are you helpful in these discussions. Nobody wants you in a discussion that you must be paid to participate in. I am uncomfortable having a discussion with someone that needs to be paid to have that conversation.

theymos said if the merit system does not work, and they cannot think of anything sufficient to replace it (or improve it) then the only reasonable next step would be the removal of signature campaigns completely. We are forced into this state of affairs by users like yourself that have clearly only signed up for the forum in the first place thinking it would be income for your meaningless opinions or uninformed input.
jr. member
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So what if it will get removed? Is it a major loss to this forum? There are a lot of ways to market such coins aside from these campaigns. Just like what everybody stated in here, it seems like you were here just to join signature campaigns to earn judging by what you had stated ? Is that your sole purpose in here? Well you're on the wrong place, I'm afraid. Go get a job if you really wanted to pick some coins up. Saying that you're not comfortable in participating discussions just emphasizes your true intention at this forum.
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I read comment by the admin that if the merit system fails to reduce spam from the website, he might take decisions like removing the signature campaigns. This is scary for me.  I am not eligible for any campaign yet but I was hopeful to get enrolled in one. If this is going to be implemented for sure, I might not be comfortable participating in discussions. I will though read posts by other members for information needed.

So you admit that you're only here for those signature campaigns?
I bet that a friend of yours taught you how he can earn through this forum.Don't force yourself to contribute shits here,this forum is being a bit shady than it was before due to the people who only wants to earn through those campaigns.This forum isn't just about for earning cents but for communicating to others,sharing and gaining knowledge,different races,different countries all in here.BCT don't need people like you,don't waste your time here and just find a job.
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