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November 13, 2013, 11:35:35 AM
#28
Hey meta-people. So I was wondering about this "activity" you show for each user based on the amount of posts combined with the post frequency over weeks since registration, and other details I'm possibly forgetting right now.

My issue with this metric is that it is completely irrelevant, I see users posting replies like "lol, right", "me too", "hi", "you're welcome", and so on. Which are fully useless, add nothing to the topic, yet increases the activity. I can imaginate a couple of reasons of why people do that, like being close to 10 years old, raising activity in accounts for selling them so other people can promote their services with sock puppets, or getting a higher rank. I have no hope for the first situation, this requires a nation-wide re-education which this forum cannot handle.

The other situations can be partially handled by simple rules, a more advanced system would apply some form of NLP. Would it be possible to not count towards activity replies with less than 5 words ? Maybe even reduce the activity when that occurs. People reported as trolls and such should never have their activity increased until they stop trolling. You could also take a dict and only count the words in a reply that appear in that dict, if it is below 5, then it cannot count towards activity either.

This bothers me because legitimate "hero members" and others are negatively affected by this kind of people.

Calculation of activity is set to repel scammers like you - you then have a hard time to rob somebody. Wink

What exactly I'm selling to scam anyone ? You're confusing yourself with me now, please don't do that again. Go create another thread for selling your scamwheel.

I'm not scammer and we both know it.

I don't know that you are not a scammer. Removed all the rest, but the reply is the same.

Are you aware what this topic is about ? By now I'm 100% sure you can't read at all, so it must be really hard for you to use this forum properly. Go ahead and create a topic on Scam accusations about me, but keep this thread with messages on topic.
legendary
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Developer
November 13, 2013, 11:32:20 AM
#27
Hey meta-people. So I was wondering about this "activity" you show for each user based on the amount of posts combined with the post frequency over weeks since registration, and other details I'm possibly forgetting right now.

My issue with this metric is that it is completely irrelevant, I see users posting replies like "lol, right", "me too", "hi", "you're welcome", and so on. Which are fully useless, add nothing to the topic, yet increases the activity. I can imaginate a couple of reasons of why people do that, like being close to 10 years old, raising activity in accounts for selling them so other people can promote their services with sock puppets, or getting a higher rank. I have no hope for the first situation, this requires a nation-wide re-education which this forum cannot handle.

The other situations can be partially handled by simple rules, a more advanced system would apply some form of NLP. Would it be possible to not count towards activity replies with less than 5 words ? Maybe even reduce the activity when that occurs. People reported as trolls and such should never have their activity increased until they stop trolling. You could also take a dict and only count the words in a reply that appear in that dict, if it is below 5, then it cannot count towards activity either.

This bothers me because legitimate "hero members" and others are negatively affected by this kind of people.

Calculation of activity is set to repel scammers like you - you then have a hard time to rob somebody. Wink

What exactly I'm selling to scam anyone ? You're confusing yourself with me now, please don't do that again. Go create another thread for selling your scamwheel.

You claim to honor people for scammers.

I'm not scammer and we both know it.

My CoinWheel is no scam and we both know it.

You are scammer cuz you are trying to tell people that I'm scammer and you have no fucking proof.

gfy.
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November 13, 2013, 11:26:51 AM
#26
Hey meta-people. So I was wondering about this "activity" you show for each user based on the amount of posts combined with the post frequency over weeks since registration, and other details I'm possibly forgetting right now.

My issue with this metric is that it is completely irrelevant, I see users posting replies like "lol, right", "me too", "hi", "you're welcome", and so on. Which are fully useless, add nothing to the topic, yet increases the activity. I can imaginate a couple of reasons of why people do that, like being close to 10 years old, raising activity in accounts for selling them so other people can promote their services with sock puppets, or getting a higher rank. I have no hope for the first situation, this requires a nation-wide re-education which this forum cannot handle.

The other situations can be partially handled by simple rules, a more advanced system would apply some form of NLP. Would it be possible to not count towards activity replies with less than 5 words ? Maybe even reduce the activity when that occurs. People reported as trolls and such should never have their activity increased until they stop trolling. You could also take a dict and only count the words in a reply that appear in that dict, if it is below 5, then it cannot count towards activity either.

This bothers me because legitimate "hero members" and others are negatively affected by this kind of people.

Calculation of activity is set to repel scammers like you - you then have a hard time to rob somebody. Wink

What exactly I'm selling to scam anyone ? You're confusing yourself with me now, please don't do that again. Go create another thread for selling your scamwheel.
legendary
Activity: 1135
Merit: 1002
Developer
November 13, 2013, 11:19:12 AM
#25
Hey meta-people. So I was wondering about this "activity" you show for each user based on the amount of posts combined with the post frequency over weeks since registration, and other details I'm possibly forgetting right now.

My issue with this metric is that it is completely irrelevant, I see users posting replies like "lol, right", "me too", "hi", "you're welcome", and so on. Which are fully useless, add nothing to the topic, yet increases the activity. I can imaginate a couple of reasons of why people do that, like being close to 10 years old, raising activity in accounts for selling them so other people can promote their services with sock puppets, or getting a higher rank. I have no hope for the first situation, this requires a nation-wide re-education which this forum cannot handle.

The other situations can be partially handled by simple rules, a more advanced system would apply some form of NLP. Would it be possible to not count towards activity replies with less than 5 words ? Maybe even reduce the activity when that occurs. People reported as trolls and such should never have their activity increased until they stop trolling. You could also take a dict and only count the words in a reply that appear in that dict, if it is below 5, then it cannot count towards activity either.

This bothers me because legitimate "hero members" and others are negatively affected by this kind of people.

Calculation of activity is set to repel scammers like you - you then have a hard time to rob somebody. Wink
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1007
November 06, 2013, 07:27:47 AM
#24
It's not complicated, every two weeks your activity increases by 14 assuming you've made at least one post.
Unless your post count is lower than that number.
legendary
Activity: 1652
Merit: 1128
November 04, 2013, 04:44:58 AM
#23
It's not complicated, every two weeks your activity increases by 14 assuming you've made at least one post.
legendary
Activity: 1120
Merit: 1038
November 04, 2013, 04:03:10 AM
#22
Can someone explain to me how activity is calculated again ?
It would be a great help to newbs if you post that in the original post.
sr. member
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October 28, 2013, 10:54:46 PM
#21
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Believe it or not, there are 200 characters in that post. How much is it worth, though? 0.

Well, if you don't want it, imma gonna sell it on Bitmit.
LoL. I doubt there are people want to buy it. haha
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1030
October 28, 2013, 04:01:00 PM
#20
i saw that, many users post like one word or just a smiley, and yet their activity increases

It increases up to the next multiple of 14, then it stays static until 14 days have passed, then the mechanism is repeated.
hero member
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Merit: 1009
October 28, 2013, 03:02:52 PM
#19
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Believe it or not, there are 200 characters in that post. How much is it worth, though? 0.

Well, if you don't want it, imma gonna sell it on Bitmit.
legendary
Activity: 1246
Merit: 1077
October 28, 2013, 03:01:40 PM
#18
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Believe it or not, there are 200 characters in that post. How much is it worth, though? 0.
sr. member
Activity: 322
Merit: 250
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October 28, 2013, 01:16:07 PM
#17
Quote from: theymos
The activity number is determined in this way: time = number of two-week periods in which you've posted since your registration activity = min(time * 14, posts)

Activity is updated every 30 minutes.

The new membergroup limits work like this: Group Requirement Brand New 0 posts

Newbie (none) Jr. Member 1 post written over 4 hours ago

Member activity: 15 Full Member activity: 60

Sr. Member activity: 200

Hero Member activity: 400

I'm not 100% sure that the membergroups work correctly. Tell me if you see any bugs.

This should explain how it works. The biggest factor is the two-week periods so spamming won't increase your activity that much.
Yes spamming will not make your activity increase much in a short time because it also based on your time count
full member
Activity: 154
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October 28, 2013, 11:48:40 AM
#16
i saw that, many users post like one word or just a smiley, and yet their activity increases
sr. member
Activity: 462
Merit: 250
It's all about the game, and how you play it
October 28, 2013, 08:39:02 AM
#15
Would it be possible to not count towards activity replies with less than 5 words ?

+1 that is a great idea. thanks.

next we're going to not count anything in the off topic section! and then the Alternate cryptocurrencies because neither is bitcoin related!
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1030
October 28, 2013, 04:07:16 AM
#14
^ Note this is not a great idea just pointing out that +1 will be replaced with equally trivial but longer statements.
I agree with what he said. (Just what people will replace instead of just quoting someone or saying "this," so no, it won't work.

A discourse forum I'm a member of has a 20 character minimum size for posts (it may be discourse default, I dunno), so people do the obvious:

Quote
Agreed. Twenty characters
legendary
Activity: 1302
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October 27, 2013, 10:21:34 PM
#13
^ Note this is not a great idea just pointing out that +1 will be replaced with equally trivial but longer statements.
I agree with what he said. (Just what people will replace instead of just quoting someone or saying "this," so no, it won't work.
donator
Activity: 1218
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Gerald Davis
October 27, 2013, 10:14:20 PM
#12
^ Note this is not a great idea just pointing out that +1 will be replaced with equally trivial but longer statements.
donator
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Gerald Davis
October 27, 2013, 10:13:50 PM
#11
Would it be possible to not count towards activity replies with less than 5 words ?

+1 that is a great idea. thanks.
legendary
Activity: 1302
Merit: 1007
October 27, 2013, 10:11:18 PM
#10
I don't think it would make much of a difference. I believe we should just leave it as it is, it seems good enough that way.
member
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October 27, 2013, 04:14:08 PM
#9
So your reply doesn't make sense, because obviously any reply contributes to raising the activity. You just need to keep posting garbage each week, which is very easy to do so and makes the activity metric irrelevant.

Of course nothing stops people from filling the forum with junk but the activity counter is capped to an increase of 14 every two weeks, thus it doesn't inflate as quickly as a mere post count. You can make 10 junk posts a day totaling 140 posts in two weeks, yet your activity increase is limited.

Thanks, I know it is limited like that but I didn't remember the exact rate. This point was made in the original post, did you read that ?

What I'm asking for is to apply some simple rules to reduce junk-activity members.
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