Changing Gambling Narratives - page 2.

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Quote from: bubilas on January 25, 2025, 08:21:50 AM

The story of one gambler whose life was ruined much more expensively than 10,000 lives of those who made a profit from the casino and simply became more cheerful. The loser I am writing about may not cope with the addiction, and take all the things out of the house, play benefits and payments intended for children, and do hundreds of other dirty deeds. It is clear that the community is right to consider the abuse of gambling and betting evil. And they can be understood in this. Yes, in small quantities, hours spent gambling are fun. But no one knows if they can control themselves.

I understand your point but in reality there’s a 10,000 losers and only 1 winner in gambling as a representation on the winning rate against the casino. Your comparison seems like there’s a lot of winner compared to losers although you are just trying to emphasize the value of being losers to the winners.

In reality, 1 positive testimonials from winner can encourage and give motivation to all the losers to play more that’s why there’s still a lot of gamblers out there despite many is losing money frequently.

The power of 1 positive comment is more valuable than testimonials of many gambling addiction since there’s still a lot of gamblers despite the risk.

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Gambling is not really against human nature. Different types of gambling existed in different ancient civilizations.

The famous musketeers of King Louis XIII loved to play dice. Alexandre Dumas wrote about this very excitingly in his famous novel "The Three Musketeers".

French kings, in particular, Louis XIII and Louis XIV, preferred card games.

Roulette appeared later. A colorful description of the game of roulette is contained, in particular, in Jack London's novel "Time Waits for No One".

At all times, men (and women) played gambling to get to know themselves better, to learn not to be afraid of risk, to experience vivid emotions.

If a person does not develop a gambling addiction in the process of gambling, then gambling makes his life more interesting and fulfilling.

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 24, 2025, 03:28:44 PM

I want to bring to our notice that we all have to stand in support for gambling, because its now becoming so alarming that the government as well as some individual have always been seeing gambling as an illegal thing to do, well this is not what we can force anyone go against his will, but then, we also have to know what we stand for, whom we are and also be proud of it by making our stand, therefore i bring to you the following.

1. Gamblers are not thieves, even though they exist everywhere.
2. Gamblers are not scammers or looter of money, some are doing it does not qualify every gambler same
3. Gambling does not go against human nature, we do it to have fun, meet friends and exercise our knowledge
4. Gambling do no harm except we invoke it on ourselves, many people are being responsible for their cause.

Lets join in support for the growth and development of gambling, eradicating the narrative of gambling doing more evil than the good if offers.

The story of one gambler whose life was ruined much more expensively than 10,000 lives of those who made a profit from the casino and simply became more cheerful. The loser I am writing about may not cope with the addiction, and take all the things out of the house, play benefits and payments intended for children, and do hundreds of other dirty deeds. It is clear that the community is right to consider the abuse of gambling and betting evil. And they can be understood in this. Yes, in small quantities, hours spent gambling are fun. But no one knows if they can control themselves.

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 24, 2025, 03:28:44 PM

Lets join in support for the growth and development of gambling, eradicating the narrative of gambling doing more evil than the good if offers.

The four points you mentioned are your understanding, of course they apply only to yourself, in government and society the position of gambling has various understandings, you could say that, but I don't think so for those for whom gambling is against their religious laws, all these points are accepted and supported for those who always win and profit in gambling games, but not for those who always have problems, that's for sure.

Maybe you can ask for support in this forum, but not in parliament or to the authority in your country, if that you do I believe you have been demonstrated by your home by an anti -gambling community, here maybe there is no problem with this support, because the forum does not apply gambling licensing rules, maybe you will have problems if you propose this point in the parliament building.

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 24, 2025, 03:28:44 PM

1. Gamblers are not thieves, even though they exist everywhere.
2. Gamblers are not scammers or looter of money, some are doing it does not qualify every gambler same
3. Gambling does not go against human nature, we do it to have fun, meet friends and exercise our knowledge
4. Gambling do no harm except we invoke it on ourselves, many people are being responsible for their cause.

These comparisons are based on the two faces of gamblers: there are bad or irresponsible gamblers and there are good and responsible gamblers. its really up to the individual what they choose to become, and the only way not to become the bad example of gambling is to have total control over your actions in how you gamble.
So when you start to gamble, you need to understand the possibility of what you will become if you fail to be responsible.

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Quote from: Oshosondy on January 24, 2025, 03:33:52 PM

Gambling is legal in most countries except countries that their religion do not allow them to gamble. They see gambling like sin which make them not to gamble. Most of the countries that ban gambling are Muslim countries.

What I noticed is linked to gambling is money laundering but according to the news that I have read very well before, money laundering are in bank and seen as clean.

If there is any legal gambling in a country, it is for sure regulated casinos, especially in this day and age when online casinos are rampant,
in which most casinos that pretend to be legal but are illegal in reality are also rampant.

And there are other casinos that are owned by the government itself, hiding behind charity programs, which have also been of great help to us and have been beneficial for decades.

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We can not do that if our country prohibit gambling because that will break the government law and we can face a problem. We can not blame those people who say that gambling as an illegal thing that because that is their right. If we don't like them say like that, we don't have to listen what they say whilst we can still playing gambling as usual. Gambling can be dangerous for those people only if they can not control themselves and can not limit their gambling habit and gives much problem to them.

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 24, 2025, 03:28:44 PM

Lets join in support for the growth and development of gambling, eradicating the narrative of gambling doing more evil than the good if offers.

Worry not, bro. Gambling isn't going anywhere. It's here to stay, no matter what. It's as old as prostitution and man's habit. All the vices you mentioned and alleged to belong to gambling are also associated with every business enterprise man engages in. They're all common place things, nothing extraordinary.

Quote from: Oshosondy on January 24, 2025, 03:33:52 PM

Gambling is legal in most countries except countries that their religion do not allow them to gamble. They see gambling like sin which make them not to gamble. Most of the countries that ban gambling are Muslim countries.

Sadly, these countries or states (as it's the case with my country) won't object to aides/revenue sent from gambling countries or states to them. It's the highest level of irony when they knowingly accept aides or revenue from those they see as indulging in sinful habit, really.

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I'm not against OP, we all know there are always good and bad effects or advantages of gambling.
Too much is always bad in all aspects of things, not only in gambling. That's why we have a government to protect us, people, and make some rules and regulations.
So for me, I stand with OP, let's just obey the government without harming everybody. We can't blame them.

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 24, 2025, 03:28:44 PM

I want to bring to our notice that we all have to stand in support for gambling, because its now becoming so alarming that the government as well as some individual have always been seeing gambling as an illegal thing to do, well this is not what we can force anyone go against his will, but then, we also have to know what we stand for, whom we are and also be proud of it by making our stand, therefore i bring to you the following.

1. Gamblers are not thieves, even though they exist everywhere.
2. Gamblers are not scammers or looter of money, some are doing it does not qualify every gambler same
3. Gambling does not go against human nature, we do it to have fun, meet friends and exercise our knowledge
4. Gambling do no harm except we invoke it on ourselves, many people are being responsible for their cause.

Lets join in support for the growth and development of gambling, eradicating the narrative of gambling doing more evil than the good if offers.

No doubt that some countries don't seem to be friendly for gamblers and gambling as a business but this is not in most countries because there are gambling laws in some jurisdiction that helps in regulating gambling business. In my country, gambling is a legal business and one of the biggest industry that have created employment both direct and indirect. Government also make a lot of revenue from gambling as a business so those negative perception you listed are not too common again because time have past when those things were happening.

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Why it feels like this is an alliance to start a revolution? Grin

Actually, the narrative about the gambling industry has changed. And that's why many countries are starting to experiment that they can get huge revenue on it.
With that, they'll have another reason to just allow gambling companies to come to them because they are seeing the stats don't lie and many are benefiting from it. But at what expense? at the expense of the losers.

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Only religious leaders and hard core religious practitioners that will kick against gambling, but the government of christain countries wouldn't kick against it, because you are free to do whatever you like as long as it isn't against the law. Some gamblers have made people to look down on gamblers, and criticize gambling due to their careless gambling lifestyle that turned them to addicts.

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 24, 2025, 03:28:44 PM

I want to bring to our notice that we all have to stand in support for gambling, because its now becoming so alarming that the government as well as some individual have always been seeing gambling as an illegal thing to do, well this is not what we can force anyone go against his will, but then, we also have to know what we stand for, whom we are and also be proud of it by making our stand, therefore i bring to you the following.

Seriously the negative narratives of gambling has helped a lot of gamblers to try keep good conducts and maintain responsible gambling habits otherwise, the number of addicted gamblers we accounts up to dates would had been more than what we got now.

Atleast the criticism of the anti gamblers formally reminds us about the potential risks of gambling so even if we have not come to the point of anyone particularly to educate us about gambling risks is a point to stay concious and aware that is accompanied with disheartening characters if we are not disciplined enough when gambling.

So I think everyone should say whatever they want to say buy should not be enough reason to get gambling banned in it entire processes as being criticized.

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Gambling is gaining massive awareness despite the negative perception of some people, especially now that crypto casinos have joined the gambling industry. The biggest factor that can change the negative perception of people who don't understand responsible gambling is the gamblers lifestyles. The attitudes of gambling addicts makes people who don't understand to generalize that gambling is evil and it's irresponsible and lazy people who are looking for a short cut to riches that gambles. These people don't know that many people that they respect as responsible people gambles, it's only the irresponsible ones that their attitudes reveals them. It can help if responsible gamblers can be proud to say that they gamble if the need arises.

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 24, 2025, 03:28:44 PM

Lets join in support for the growth and development of gambling, eradicating the narrative of gambling doing more evil than the good if offers.

Without supporting gambling, gambling itself has grown greatly.
You may see that there are countries that prohibit or restrict gambling, but the prohibition or restriction is not entirely because there are certain conditions where gambling is still carried out only with more closed conditions or only for areas that have been determined to have physical casinos, while online casinos can operate and be accessed anywhere.

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 24, 2025, 03:28:44 PM

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It shouldn't be gamblers. It should be the concept or notion of spending money itself. You don't see people shaming others whenever they buy a game they want, items and clothes they want, or even the gacha games out there where people spend thousands. Yet gamblers get shamed just because they spend money to win more lol. Though tbf the notion got worse not because of gambling but because of the people themselves. Gamblers are not scammers yes, but scammers can be gamblers. Or thieves.

Anyway, I don't think we need to do anything ourselves really. The notion is slowly changing with more people being open to the mindset that gamblers just, well, gamble. Granted until some major religions don't remove the idea that gambling is a sin I reckon that's going to be a permanent mark.

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One of the arguments for banning gambling in some countries is that the state allegedly protects, so to speak, the poor strata of the population from complete ruin, relying on the fact that people will look for ways to earn money in gambling.
For me, this looks like hypocrisy. Concern for one's people, on the contrary, should be in the form of choosing freedom of action, educating the population, and preventing misconceptions about what is entertainment and what is not.
I agree that many people, looking for ways to survive, rush into the abyss of gambling, losing everything, and getting a lot of debt. But everyone else who likes gambling and those who understand when to play and when to look for ways to provide for their lives and their loved ones should not suffer from this.

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Quote from: retreat on January 25, 2025, 12:51:00 AM

But you can't force your views on gambling on others, especially for countries that prohibit gambling because it is against the majority of people's religion in the country, for example in my country gambling is prohibited because the majority of people here are Muslim and Christian, so the government strictly prohibits gambling to respect the prohibition of gambling in those religions (even though in the end there are still hundreds of thousands of people who actively gamble here). But I agree with you that gambling is not something illegal, but often people see it as a bad thing.

As far as I know, gambling is prohibited in most countries of the world. But by nature we are more attracted to forbidden things. So I think people in countries where gambling is prohibited are more involved in gambling.

Gambling is bad when you choose it as a profession and become addicted to it. If we think of gambling only as a game or we gamble only to pass the time, then maybe it cannot be called bad. But I have seen many gamblers whose only job all day is gambling. I will say that gambling is definitely bad for these gamblers. And they are addicted to gambling badly. We must try to control ourselves and also be aware of gambling addiction.

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The gambling industry is just an entertainment business. To offset some of the negative aspects of this industry, such as the risk of gambling addiction or criminalization of activities (such as money laundering), organizations in this industry (casinos) could allocate part of the profits to charitable programs. I think this would help to improve the biased attitude towards gambling.

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Quote from: Aanuoluwatofunmi on January 24, 2025, 03:28:44 PM

1. Gamblers are not thieves, even though they exist everywhere.

Where does this narrative come from? I have never heard anyone accuse or group gamblers as robbers. Maybe because they know a few people who would steal to gamble but that is just a small percentage of gamblers.

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3. Gambling does not go against human nature, we do it to have fun, meet friends and exercise our knowledge

In fact, gambling is literally in our nature. We humans like to be entertained. We are competitive and we like to win. We do both of these things through gambling. There is nothing unnatural or inhumane with the very act of gambling.

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