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legendary
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July 09, 2024, 12:54:24 AM
#52
Gambling because 15 of what you lose will eventually go to healthcare is a very shitty excuse.
Gambling because 15% of what you lose will eventually go to healthcare is not a shitty excuse. It is very good in my opinion and not an excuse. The guy does not like gambling because he knows that people are losing than they are winning. But he later knew that in his country, some of the taxes from gambling goes to health care which helped him. He then start to gamble because of that. He has in mind already that gambling is very risky, that he can lose the money. But that if he lose, some of the money will go to healthcare in a way that some lives can be saved just like during his time in hospital. It is a brilliant thinking.
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July 09, 2024, 12:24:05 AM
#51
However, there are still many people who deny the donation from gambling, they say "the social welfare didn't only get donation from gambling, but they also get from rich people, big manufactures etc."

Just like people who boycott companies that supporting Israel or didn't help Palestine, but they're still use their products. Google, cell phone, etc are made from the companies they boycotted.

For me, nothing changed. This is just another positive effect of gambling, think also some people lose a lot of money like their lives due to excessive gambling.
This gaming corporation giving away money is very small percentage how they make money off gambling, some also doing this due to some tax related.
Why they lose their lives? if they become poor, they're eligible to get donation from government where the funds come from gambling, right?
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July 08, 2024, 08:15:55 PM
#50
Actually i am not a rich person so i bankroll only a small amount of weekly income for gambling. You should hate it when you repeatedly lose gambling because it is not with your luck. You will find many people in your area who have good luck and always win by betting on gambling. Poor people in my country don't like gambling. But middle class people are more addicted to gambling because they dream of getting rich suddenly. They pay more to gambling because they think it is possible to get rich quick.
This is where they are getting it wrongly because you can never get rich just like that by gambling continually, most times we shouldn't be replying on regular gambling to become so rich over night. Most times what makes people go bankrupt is inability to control their feelings towards gambling and it should be somewhat limited or being cultured to limit how they gamble. If gambler could be responsible and limit the way they chase lose after loss is another cool way to stop them from losing more while gambling.
Indeed, there are many people who misunderstand gambling, thinking that they can get rich quickly by gambling and they also think that gambling is a means of being able to make money for sure. Unfortunately, this is of course not true because with their understanding like that, they will only feel annoyed. When the money they bet on is lost in gambling, apart from that, they will not be able to accept the money they bet on and lose it in gambling, so this attitude and behavior will only make them more addicted to gambling. The wrong mindset regarding understanding gambling must be changed, they must be able to consider gambling as a means of entertainment, nothing more than that. If they want to be rich, of course they have to work for real, not just by hoping for a miracle to happen by gambling, don't get big wins or win consistently, to get just one win, which isn't even big, is very difficult. So if they have the wrong thoughts about gambling then they will only put themselves at the point of misery.

Of course we ourselves will determine what our fate will be in the future, if we can gamble responsibly then there is little chance of big losses occurring because having a sense of responsibility can make us prevent actions that carry big risks, because many gamblers experience big losses. because they do not have a good sense of responsibility or boundaries with the gambling they do. However, when they think that gambling is wrong and are addicted, it is certainly not easy to change their mindset or perception about the gambling they do. Those who are addicted to gambling certainly have the perception that they can get money or win at gambling with certainty so they don't think that winnings at gambling are based on luck. and of course that will set them up for misery.
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July 08, 2024, 08:07:04 PM
#49
This is where they are getting it wrongly because you can never get rich just like that by gambling continually, most times we shouldn't be replying on regular gambling to become so rich over night. Most times what makes people go bankrupt is inability to control their feelings towards gambling and it should be somewhat limited or being cultured to limit how they gamble. If gambler could be responsible and limit the way they chase lose after loss is another cool way to stop them from losing more while gambling.
Of course, it is impossible to get rich if we gamble continuously and in fact we all often see those who have gambled frequently, they will experience financial problems and it is not uncommon for someone who gambles frequently that they don't. can have savings because they always spend more of the funds they have on gambling so they don't have time to think about having savings.

Limiting ourselves to gambling activities is of course very important because no one can win their gambling often and only luck can give us a win and of course we rarely get this in gambling, so it would be better for us to be able to control ourselves. When gambling and when we lose, we can stop and not continue gambling which will cause us to experience even more losses.
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July 08, 2024, 07:43:57 PM
#48
How about you what made you change your perception of gambling from negative to positive?
Or what will make you change your perception?
For me, nothing changed. This is just another positive effect of gambling, think also some people lose a lot of money like their lives due to excessive gambling.
This gaming corporation giving away money is very small percentage how they make money off gambling, some also doing this due to some tax related.
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July 08, 2024, 06:58:44 PM
#47
That only depends on what will be the reason of a person has, we couldn't judge their undertakings towards gambling. If their purpose is good towards partaking gambling, then there's no doubt about it since the motives is for very crucial and important reason. Sometimes we will break our every principles just for sacrificing our dignity for a love ones, yes we hate something but I believed it could come to an exception once there's a deeper reason on a case to case basis.
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July 08, 2024, 05:01:12 PM
#46
I think that his position was not correct or incorrect in relation to the subject, it was his way of thinking about something that undoubtedly many people do not understand, in my case it is difficult for me to believe that some countries penalize gambling, but, the prostitution, oh is allowed.

Consequently, he initial position is fine, no problem, I respect it, but then it changes due to the fact that betting generates tax payments, and that even many gaming companies have social aid foundations, etc., hey, like any other bussines, but, it is an error of conviction in reference to the subject.

That denotes misinformation in the criteria of ideas in reference to gambling topic, because I repeat; It is very valid to be against betting, but it is also very valid to support it. In reality, social aid should not have changed its initial position; in short, it is an issue with many aspects socio-culturals.
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July 08, 2024, 03:26:23 PM
#45
Did I read it right? OP's friend started gambling because of that small % of the money going on taxes and an even smaller % of that tax money going to healthcare? If he really wants to impact healthcare and taxation he should simply start a company. He'd have to pay healthcare tax for himself and all his employees and that would be a significant sum. He'd also be making money in the process. Gambling because 15 of what you lose will eventually go to healthcare is a very shitty excuse.
I don't think also that the perception about gambling is also ok and this for me a negative aspects of gambling, how can you gamble with the aim that when you lose the casino goes to pay tax from such loses, because at the end if he continue to gamble with such a pattern he will end up becoming an addicts or even go into debt simply by trying to meet up with his set targets.


At the end he will not impact anything on the healthcare sector as he wish and also may not end well personally, I buy into your idea of him starting a project such as a healthcare oriented company and give back directly to the society, gambling can give him such positive result.
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July 08, 2024, 03:18:21 PM
#44
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That's... oddly specific. I don't think asking for help in social welfare even includes them being told that "Hey, this money came from taxes from gamblers!" kind of thing. But anyway, if it was negative I don't think this would've been enough to change it. In the first place, it's not about where the money goes, the negative idea about gambling is because of how it gets the money.

In most cases, at least in most news articles shown to people, it's about gamblers being destroyed by gambling. Yes, it helps people sure, but it doesn't change the fact that it can and will destroy some peoples lives. You can argue that it's not really their fault, but just because of players being impulsive which is true, but again the initial idea that it destroyed the lives of people still stands. Pretty sure that's how most peoples idea stand, at least from what I feel/understand about them.
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July 08, 2024, 02:45:53 PM
#43
Actually i am not a rich person so i bankroll only a small amount of weekly income for gambling. You should hate it when you repeatedly lose gambling because it is not with your luck. You will find many people in your area who have good luck and always win by betting on gambling. Poor people in my country don't like gambling. But middle class people are more addicted to gambling because they dream of getting rich suddenly. They pay more to gambling because they think it is possible to get rich quick.
This is where they are getting it wrongly because you can never get rich just like that by gambling continually, most times we shouldn't be replying on regular gambling to become so rich over night. Most times what makes people go bankrupt is inability to control their feelings towards gambling and it should be somewhat limited or being cultured to limit how they gamble. If gambler could be responsible and limit the way they chase lose after loss is another cool way to stop them from losing more while gambling.
legendary
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July 08, 2024, 02:30:52 PM
#42
Did I read it right? OP's friend started gambling because of that small % of the money going on taxes and an even smaller % of that tax money going to healthcare? If he really wants to impact healthcare and taxation he should simply start a company. He'd have to pay healthcare tax for himself and all his employees and that would be a significant sum. He'd also be making money in the process. Gambling because 15 of what you lose will eventually go to healthcare is a very shitty excuse.
legendary
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July 08, 2024, 02:24:14 PM
#41
...the taxes coming from gambling that's allocated for the health sector his loved one was operated, and he got free medications...

This is something that every country should have, unfortunately, it is not the case. In addition to the gambling tax, it could be taken from other taxes and all that money could be used for the treatment of citizens. You live in a nice state, in my state, the casinos pay a lot of taxes for sure and invest a lot in sports fields around the country, I guess that is a good part, but we all know they use it to advertise and reduce taxes because they invest money in various social organizations as well.

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July 08, 2024, 01:58:10 PM
#40
We are from the same country as OP yes, gambling is legal in our country, but with strict restrictions; when I was not yet betting, I also did not like gambling, but after seeing the big allocations and the many schools, hospitals, and medical equipment bought by Pagcor and PCSO the two agencies that manage the gambling operation in our country, we become supportive, there is no free hospitalization in our country you need to be part of the poor sector to avail of this help.
Gambling is considered evil by many, but for some people, it's a blessing for their needs.

This is quite a different situation than what is obtainable in other places that a gambling agency would use tax generated as social responsibility for the community. This is very encouraging that the poor benefit from the little gambling money that they put in.

My jurisdiction, nothing of such happens and taxes are only collected by the government for whatever purpose they would use it for. Thus, the situation never had any positive or negative influence to gambling since it has been what was on ground. You bet for yourself and to your own peril not for any expectations of any accruing or future benefit. Therefore, you are there for yourself and that is why you only should bet as you can bear the loses.
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July 08, 2024, 01:52:50 PM
#39
Actually i am not a rich person so i bankroll only a small amount of weekly income for gambling. You should hate it when you repeatedly lose gambling because it is not with your luck. You will find many people in your area who have good luck and always win by betting on gambling. Poor people in my country don't like gambling. But middle class people are more addicted to gambling because they dream of getting rich suddenly. They pay more to gambling because they think it is possible to get rich quick.
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July 08, 2024, 01:39:49 PM
#38
How about you what made you change your perception of gambling from negative to positive?
Or what will make you change your perception?
I don't want to get into your story, so to answer your direct question, i never had a negative perception about gambling, what i don't accept is underage gambling, and most casinos warn that users below the age limit should not gamble in their platforms. If adults want to gamble, then let them do so, i gamble too, but i do so responsibly. Gambling only becomes a problem when it is abused, but just as everything is, so there is nothing peculiarly wrong about gambling IMO.
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July 08, 2024, 01:34:47 PM
#37
I don't think there's ever a time I've ever been against gambling. When I was a kid I thought nothing of gambling so I didn't have a perspective on it. Even when I became an adult, I didn't think of gambling till I started gambling. So I have never been against gambling or ever advocated that it should be banned.
Of course I don't believe bitcoin doesn't have any disadvantages, almost everything has disadvantages but on the grand scheme of things, there's nothing illegal about, except it is done illegally or fraudulently.

This is a good example of why company should do charity work too. A little giving back to the community goes a long way. It may seem like nothing, but as long as it can save or help one person, it's something.
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July 08, 2024, 01:33:33 PM
#36
How about you what made you change your perception of gambling from negative to positive?
Or what will make you change your perception?

Let's have a discussion on this.
Right from the beginning, I didn't dislike gambling, so I don't know if there was something that could have made me begin to like it if I was among those who hated it from the beginning.
 
The sweet part of the story is that there was a positive result and gambling funds were able to help save someone's life. It's not like a situation where they used it for something negative and the rest of them, which could have triggered him to hate gambling more.
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July 08, 2024, 12:59:50 PM
#35
With this, his perception of gambling changed. He now supports betting on the lottery and sometimes takes a chance by betting as a way to thank the agency and, at the same time, try to win the jackpot.

Sometimes we minimize things that have no impact on us. From the case you convey, taxes from gambling help the health sector, which also allows it to be allocated to increasing talents and interests such as scholarships or skills courses for less fortunate people.

I don't think it's just gambling, as taxes from the production of processed tobacco and alcoholic beverages also make quite a large contribution to state tax revenues. some may even set up their foundations to help.

we cannot force people to think well when it comes to gambling. they have their own thoughts. let them finally open their own eyes to some of the benefits they may actually feel and enjoy from something they consider bad.
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July 08, 2024, 12:48:36 PM
#34
Every individual with their own perspective as it relates to gambling. I do not have any problem with gambling but I think we all know that it is a risky venture and as such, while gambling, we should gamble responsibly.

In my country, revenues are majorly generated from natural  resources and multinationals that operates in my country, so there are lots of agencies that does cater for social welfare and lots more. I have not really heard anything about revenue being generated from gambling uses for any purpose or whatsoever but I believe revenues oare for from the tac payers and should be used for rendering services to them.
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July 08, 2024, 12:29:50 PM
#33
Then one day it happened one of his loved ones needed an operation and medication, and since he was poor he had no money to use for the operation and to buy medicines, but one of his relatives advised him to go to the hospital's social welfare and with the help of the social welfare and the taxes coming from gambling that's allocated for the health sector his loved one was operated, and he got free medications.
You are correct that taxes from gambling goes into social welfare but the taxes that goes into social welfare isn't just from gambling alone. There are other sectors that contribute their taxes so social welfare. It is proper to have a balanced view so that a gambling addict will not blame the social welfare schemes as their reason for getting addicted to gambling. As they may also argue that because they wanted to contribute to the scheme they have to gamble more which the taxes from their gambling goes to this scheme.

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How about you what made you change your perception of gambling from negative to positive?
Or what will make you change your perception?
I used to see gambling in a negative light while growing up because of what was fed to us as kids by our parents. I wouldn't blame them though, they just wanted to keep us safe. And whatever they told us about gambling was from a limited and one-sided point of view. I grew and got the full picture of gambling I wouldn't say my view of gambling is positive or negative, it is more of neutral. Because however anyone chooses to see gambling, they are right about it.
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