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Conclusion

1. Charity isn't suitable for gambling
2. Give awareness on massive losses and after consequences
3. Motivational and mental support is the possible solution to get rid of addiction
4. Never consider gambling a way to make money or multiply the money in the wallet
5. Gambling will be fun, until you win. So, you should have the mind to accept losses same as winning.
6. Try to learn all the impacts addiction can make in one's life before entering into it.

Thanks for all the suggestions relative to the thread.

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You can’t help an addicted gambler with money or it is not a practical way to help them, I think its better if they should undergo counselling or psychological treatment. Money is not the tight tool, I doubt that they will use it in the right way rather it might only tempt them to do their vices again.

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Quote from: acquafredda on March 13, 2021, 10:48:06 AM

Quote from: Vaskiy on March 13, 2021, 10:27:55 AM

Each and everyone here say, gamblers will further spend on gambling. So, this isn't the right way to do charity. However almost every user here are carrying a signature of a gambling site. Being loyal to them is good, but we also need to think of the one who is missing his life. Majority stated its their mistake and they're responsible for that. It is the truth with gambling, for the same mere advice and motivation alone isn't a solution to make him come out of the addiction.

Whatever the signature we may carry we do not get any pressure to use that money fro gambling. I do not see your point.
In this specific case, which is the same for you and me, if you find yourself having troubles managing your sig earnings withdraw them straight away. Having them on the site is a temptation for you? Put them on the vault or withdraw them.
Stake does not force you to use them.

Man, why are you taking Stake into the discussion. They are legit with their service. Everyone try to stay on the safer side. Even in the very first post I've mentioned about the vault and other features that help in keeping our earnings safer.

Everyone be clear, from the very first post I'm requesting you people for some sort of plans so that users who are into hard debts out of gambling can get rid of their debt and start a new life. Maybe the help done by us is very small, but this is something life saving. I've seen several gamblers on the urge of ending their lives after big losses. I don't say what we do will reach the right hands, but for sure it'll be a life saver for someone who is willing to have a new life.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on March 13, 2021, 10:27:55 AM

Each and everyone here say, gamblers will further spend on gambling. So, this isn't the right way to do charity. However almost every user here are carrying a signature of a gambling site. Being loyal to them is good, but we also need to think of the one who is missing his life. Majority stated its their mistake and they're responsible for that. It is the truth with gambling, for the same mere advice and motivation alone isn't a solution to make him come out of the addiction.

Whatever the signature we may carry we do not get any pressure to use that money fro gambling. I do not see your point.
In this specific case, which is the same for you and me, if you find yourself having troubles managing your sig earnings withdraw them straight away. Having them on the site is a temptation for you? Put them on the vault or withdraw them.
Stake does not force you to use them.

Vaskiy

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Each and everyone here say, gamblers will further spend on gambling. So, this isn't the right way to do charity. However almost every user here are carrying a signature of a gambling site. Being loyal to them is good, but we also need to think of the one who is missing his life. Majority stated its their mistake and they're responsible for that. It is the truth with gambling, for the same mere advice and motivation alone isn't a solution to make him come out of the addiction.

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I'm against charity to addicted gamblers, because they will just keep wasting more and more money due to their addiction. The correct action would be to send this kind of gambler to rehabilitation, so if necessary contribute financially to his treatment expenses, but don't give money on his hands.
It's like alcoholic homeless people begging on the streets. Some people don't give them money, because they will be feeding their addiction this way, as the alcoholic will use the money in order to buy more drinks. Instead, people pay a meal or give them clothes, accessories, etc.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on March 13, 2021, 02:38:28 AM

It might sounds strange to encourage gambling through this Charity, but my thinking is to give life and hope to overcome the financial stress which is the major reason behind the depression of gamblers. If someone is found losing $5k on gambling and is in frustration. We can support him financially providing $200. Please putforth your opinions and the right way to help Gamblers financially.

I really don't understand why. Someone who does gambling knows the great danger of losing a lot or everything. Only a very small part is lucky and wins a lot. That's why I say, it's ones own fault who takes this big risk. There are much more useful aid projects where people are affected who are not responsible for their situation, e.g. because they have suddenly fallen ill with a serious illness or people who have lost their jobs due to the recession.

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No, I think that is not strange because as long as that person wants and has a big will to stop gambling, we need to help them solve the problem. Maybe that is not a charity because we help that person solve his financial problem, and he can survive but with a note that person must stop his habit of gambling.

If we can not help that person stop gambling, but we still give them the money, I am afraid that he will come back to the gambling place because he has the money to gamble. That is not good for that person because it will difficult to stop his habit.

But if that person regrets what he's done before and really wants to stop his gambling habit, we can help him survive by maybe giving him money to eat and help him with the other thing. That can solve his problem in gambling, and he can start a new life.

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Sometimes we learn the hard way, if we get ourselves addicted in gambling, that's most likely will happen to us because we loss our control. If we help, it means we tolerate, but I'm not saying helping or lending an addicted gambler some money is bad, we just have to ensure that he will not use it for gambling again.

I have also been into debt in the past because of gambling but it's not as big as yours, maybe I should be thankful that I was able to overcome that problem and I'm sure I'm more smarter now.

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Giving them more money to gamble is not a good way to help them, if you really want to help those gamblers who are broke and drowning on debt, then you should help them mentally and emotionally, encourage them to stop gambling and do work on other things until he paid his debt slowly.

I'd rather support charities working for the poor than to a gambler. Grin

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Quote from: Vaskiy on March 13, 2021, 02:38:28 AM

Myself got lucky several times, but I wasn't able to keep up the winning with proper exit strategy. Another thing, if I've kept all the earnings without gambling now I could've been debt free. Now myself was into big debt, and I've requested the help of different people. None were there to help me. At some point I even thought of ending the life, because it isn't an easy thing for a common man to overcome a debt of $50k. My mind says the life is given by God and you don't have the right to end it. With this philosophy I'm running forward. Even now I'm spending my earnings on gambling and standing empty handed.

Now my mind always thinks of people who are same as me. I need to support them, which means financially. For this what are the ways to collect funds and give it to the right ones in need.

It might sounds strange to encourage gambling through this Charity, but my thinking is to give life and hope to overcome the financial stress which is the major reason behind the depression of gamblers. If someone is found losing $5k on gambling and is in frustration. We can support him financially providing $200. Please putforth your opinions and the right way to help Gamblers financially.

As for me, it's better to help gamblers to know the risks of gambling instead of supporting them with their wrong decisions. Sometimes, people need to face the consequences of their actions for them to learn their lesson. We're always advised to gamble just for entertainment with enough funds that we have. We shouldn't let our lives revolve around gambling because it could take everything from us.

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Quote from: molsewid on March 13, 2021, 07:58:28 AM

Quote from: cabron on March 13, 2021, 06:10:09 AM

You know you are in debt already but you still keep gambling with the earnings you get here. So how do you support yourself? The earnings we get here are just too small. I assume you have a day job. I understand the urge to bet is scratching your back.

If your lender isn't about to kill you due to the big amount, just pay them bit by bit and continue working. no addiction can't be overcome when you know there is a responsibility on your shoulder.

Entering a gambling without having an extra penny that you can use in your gambling activity was a total risk. It isn't an economical practical way knowing that you have already less money in hand to meet your needs then you're going to gamble it, it's insane. Maybe there are some of us here trying to figure out there luck by gambling their remaining money hoping to make it double in case but honestly speaking gambling is 50% probability of winning and losing. I couldn't think i could take this risk so far.

Most of the gamblers don't use there extra money to gamble. Only few players are gambling just for entertainment alone. You can prove this theory when you see the trollbox of the casino which most of the players there are chatting about how they lose badly and other sentiment. A player that playing just for entertainment will never regret losing. So therefore this kind of gambling is just applicable in theory only.

Winning probability in gambling is not fixed 50%. It depends on the type of game you are playing. Wink

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Quote from: cabron on March 13, 2021, 06:10:09 AM

You know you are in debt already but you still keep gambling with the earnings you get here. So how do you support yourself? The earnings we get here are just too small. I assume you have a day job. I understand the urge to bet is scratching your back.

If your lender isn't about to kill you due to the big amount, just pay them bit by bit and continue working. no addiction can't be overcome when you know there is a responsibility on your shoulder.

Entering a gambling without having an extra penny that you can use in your gambling activity was a total risk. It isn't an economical practical way knowing that you have already less money in hand to meet your needs then you're going to gamble it, it's insane. Maybe there are some of us here trying to figure out there luck by gambling their remaining money hoping to make it double in case but honestly speaking gambling is 50% probability of winning and losing. I couldn't think i could take this risk so far.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on March 13, 2021, 02:38:28 AM

Myself got lucky several times, but I wasn't able to keep up the winning with proper exit strategy. Another thing, if I've kept all the earnings without gambling now I could've been debt free. Now myself was into big debt, and I've requested the help of different people. None were there to help me. At some point I even thought of ending the life, because it isn't an easy thing for a common man to overcome a debt of $50k. My mind says the life is given by God and you don't have the right to end it. With this philosophy I'm running forward. Even now I'm spending my earnings on gambling and standing empty handed.

Now my mind always thinks of people who are same as me. I need to support them, which means financially. For this what are the ways to collect funds and give it to the right ones in need.

It might sounds strange to encourage gambling through this Charity, but my thinking is to give life and hope to overcome the financial stress which is the major reason behind the depression of gamblers. If someone is found losing $5k on gambling and is in frustration. We can support him financially providing $200. Please putforth your opinions and the right way to help Gamblers financially.

So gamblers will keep betting with the money collected from others? Not a good idea?

When they are thinking about betting the first thing then need to know that, are they ready to lose this money?

If not don't gamble, simple!

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Quote from: Vaskiy on March 13, 2021, 02:38:28 AM

It might sounds strange to encourage gambling through this Charity, but my thinking is to give life and hope to overcome the financial stress which is the major reason behind the depression of gamblers. If someone is found losing $5k on gambling and is in frustration. We can support him financially providing $200. Please putforth your opinions and the right way to help Gamblers financially.

Is this some sort of heroic thing just because you do feel out the pain and stress that they had been experiencing at the moment?I doubt that people would tend to give out even a cent.

Yes, they can give out moral support but not with money, its never been believable ever yet the reality would be totally opposite.Why would someone donate to other gamblers just to relieve out their stress to think
that they are also on the same stress yet we know that most gamblers are on the losing side.

Also, its up to someones will on why he lost up that much and dont expect that there would really be some aid or help in forms of financial or money but somehow you can get some moral support
but dont expect for some cash.

Charity is a dumb idea because even just asking one of the members or the community on making some donation then everyone would really be pushing their backs on who would really
be the first to donate. Grin

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Quote from: Vaskiy on March 13, 2021, 02:38:28 AM

It might sounds strange to encourage gambling through this Charity, but my thinking is to give life and hope to overcome the financial stress which is the major reason behind the depression of gamblers. If someone is found losing $5k on gambling and is in frustration. We can support him financially providing $200. Please putforth your opinions and the right way to help Gamblers financially.

are you serious about this? you wanted to Help/Support a Stupid gambler that losses His Money because of His own desired action ? Man you don't know what you are asking here, if this will be possible to do then How much are we need to collect because of millions of addicted in gamblers in the world?

Those gamblers must learn from their own mistakes , they must stand up by own feet so they will never do the same again .

I totally disagreed on this Idea , there are so much people that needs help but they are not gambler , so i would rather help them out.

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Quote from: Vaskiy on March 13, 2021, 02:38:28 AM

Now my mind always thinks of people who are same as me. I need to support them, which means financially. For this what are the ways to collect funds and give it to the right ones in need.

It might sounds strange to encourage gambling through this Charity, but my thinking is to give life and hope to overcome the financial stress which is the major reason behind the depression of gamblers. If someone is found losing $5k on gambling and is in frustration. We can support him financially providing $200. Please putforth your opinions and the right way to help Gamblers financially.

Sometimes giving money is not the best solution since actually for doing that you are not actually helping it's because you are making people rely that there's someone will catch them once they fall and in debt again so I think what's best to offer for those people is to help them introduce on professionals since this is the one needed by the gamblers. They will never go to that place and got a huge debt if they are not addicted so if you know someone who got this problem introduce them first on psychologist so that there habits will get corrected first.

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You know you are in debt already but you still keep gambling with the earnings you get here. So how do you support yourself? The earnings we get here are just too small. I assume you have a day job. I understand the urge to bet is scratching your back.

If your lender isn't about to kill you due to the big amount, just pay them bit by bit and continue working. no addiction can't be overcome when you know there is a responsibility on your shoulder.

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Its like adding fuel to a fire. First of all, you shouldn't bet with what you cannot afford to lose. If you do lose it all and are looking for handouts so that you can bet more. You are suffering with gambling addiction and you should seek medical help, not try to find other ways to be able to bet. There are a lot more noble causes where you could donate to charity, like helping underprivileged kids get quality education. Providing food and shelter to the homeless. Helping animal shelters and animal rescue. Medical research funds for Cancer, Corona and others etc. Maybe its just me, but those to me are waaay higher priority than helping some gambler make that 1 or a few extra bet. The thought itself seems absurd to me. No offense.

I have to second every single word here.
It's absolutely foolish to even think that supporting gamblers with more money would be the way to go.
First of all, a gambler needs to recognize his/her own condition and work on that first. Only after having recognized that and started a some human development path there could be some sort of financial support which would have to be linked to be progress made.
Charity and gambling in the same phrase sound like an oxymoron to me. Sorry

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you know what's better? a charity that gives gamblers a chance to get themselves on a rehabilitation facility for free and a job that could help them get back on their feet once they are out of the facility. giving someone money for financial help because they lost in gambling wouldn't solve the problem and would not really help them but would just only help them continue their destructive habit. I have been in a rough situation before because of gambling but I am one of the lucky ones since I was able to pull out of it before it is too late.

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The thought itself seems absurd to me. No offense.

it is to me too.

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