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Topic: CHAT THREAD FOR ---> Bitcoin Game Changer - Coming to over 10,000 cities across - page 2. (Read 5495 times)

legendary
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I don't live in a big city and I'm certainly not going to hop on a plane to get a client to sign documents.  Sounds like this isn't for me.   If its a 80/20 split for you to do all the work it sounds like a no brained for people just to pay the initial btc , have you do the work and send me a check.  Unless I'm wrong.
hero member
Activity: 588
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maybe you could give some more quality details over your Project. Than it would be nice to know over the spreads between 2.5 and on the 5.
Also iam interested Wink Would be nice to hear about Smiley

regards
lama-hunter
Sorry, we are not releasing quality details at this time, the business idea is still to vulnerable and can be taken with to much information.  I can discuss the spread, but I am not sure what you mean when you say this if you can explain more.
hero member
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MORE EXPLANATION

People are thinking this is some sort of MLM or Pyramid scheme.  I ensure you this is not.  We are not requesting any money before the business is laid out for you so that you know what you are investing in. 

Think of this like McDonalds.  We are setting this business up with a sort of Franchise platform, so you will only be able to do business in the general area you buy into with us.  You just do not have all of these expensive fees associated with a franchise.  We wanted to make this affordable to give the small time investor a chance to make some good money.  I hope this releaves some concerns you may have.  We just can not release the business details until after we have worked them all out.
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
How much technical knowledge & infrastructure is required to participate eg website, payment processing?

Is this job doable from home? (i.e. do participants have to be in particular physical locations)

Will the idea be fully explained and verified BEFORE sending any funds?

Honestly, from what it sounds like coming from OP and what you're asking, there is good and bad news in your case:

The good news: is that you can be able to work from home, but just pay to "secure" an area or city of your choice. The customers will somehow do some kind of business for you... which I think in this case makes it seems like it is a pyramid scheme of some sort if the "customers" hand business for you.  Take that as you will though, I just know that me personally will not feel comfortable recruiting friends to do work for me and me receiving benefits for it.

The bad news: The idea will not be explained before you send funds. Going from what he has said before, he is concerned that the idea he has for a business proposal could be stolen from people on the forum.  So in other words, he wouldn't feel safe sharing any information on anything that has to do with what he is trying to sell, which I personally think contradicts everything that he is trying to do on this thread.
Let me correct these statements:
Response to the Good News: First, there is no pyramid scheme or multilevel marketing scheme.  You will not be asked to sign people up to sell for you or anything of the sort.  Your customers are your customers and will stay your customers as long as they need your service and no one else comes in under your prices.  This is a business, where you will make money off of the business you do, not the work of someone else.  Some people who are getting more than 2 cities will end up hiring a sales team, but this will be people being hired in to work, not someone you can make a percentage of their income.  Just business.

Response to Bad news:  The business will be explained before you send any funds, we are keeping the business under wraps for now, because someone who has more money than we do could take the idea and run with it, leaving us in the dust.  When we are ready to launch, all interested parties will be required to prove they have funding and they will be told what the deal is before they pay anything.  I will make another post with more information shortly, to help explain things.
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
How much technical knowledge & infrastructure is required to participate eg website, payment processing?

Is this job doable from home? (i.e. do participants have to be in particular physical locations)

Will the idea be fully explained and verified BEFORE sending any funds?
I will be running a number of cities, and so will my partners, directly from our home computers.  You will need to have contact with your clients and will have to pay them a visit to get them to sign all the legal paperwork and sign up with your service.  The specifics will be revealed once we are ready to launch and there is no one who can jump in under us to stop the launch from happening.  We are waiting for communications back from a few processing pools and also from Blockchain.  The knowledge you will need is general computer knowledge and Bitcoin general knowledge.  I hope this answers your question.
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1004
How much technical knowledge & infrastructure is required to participate eg website, payment processing?

Is this job doable from home? (i.e. do participants have to be in particular physical locations)

Will the idea be fully explained and verified BEFORE sending any funds?

Honestly, from what it sounds like coming from OP and what you're asking, there is good and bad news in your case:

The good news: is that you can be able to work from home, but just pay to "secure" an area or city of your choice. The customers will somehow do some kind of business for you... which I think in this case makes it seems like it is a pyramid scheme of some sort if the "customers" hand business for you.  Take that as you will though, I just know that me personally will not feel comfortable recruiting friends to do work for me and me receiving benefits for it.

The bad news: The idea will not be explained before you send funds. Going from what he has said before, he is concerned that the idea he has for a business proposal could be stolen from people on the forum.  So in other words, he wouldn't feel safe sharing any information on anything that has to do with what he is trying to sell, which I personally think contradicts everything that he is trying to do on this thread.
sr. member
Activity: 264
Merit: 250
How much technical knowledge & infrastructure is required to participate eg website, payment processing?

Is this job doable from home? (i.e. do participants have to be in particular physical locations)

Will the idea be fully explained and verified BEFORE sending any funds?
sr. member
Activity: 266
Merit: 250
maybe you could give some more quality details over your Project. Than it would be nice to know over the spreads between 2.5 and on the 5.
Also iam interested Wink Would be nice to hear about Smiley

regards
lama-hunter
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
Still have no idea what the project is or what i would be doing.
As for now we are keeping it that way.   This project could get swiped out from under us with someone who has more money than we do, which would destroy everything we have been working for.  We are just looking to see who is interested before we finish the project.

Well no offense, but if you wanted to keep things under wraps until you have your project/service fully developed (sounds like you're going to proceed developing it anyways), then why would you bother trying to garner interest in getting investors? If you wanted to protect your idea from being so easily taken over by someone else, then why not just apply for a patent on your business idea/product. Even after you get everything situated and developed, you still can't necessarily trust people not to take your idea and run with it when you finally tell investors how things would work.

Investors like seeing a finished project that they can tell if they at going to make a decent ROI with it.
I agree with all you are saying, I am just throwing a tester out there to see interest sparked.  There is no way to get a patent on the business.  The business is not new in any way; it is just new to he bitcoin market.  There is no doubt that someone will take the idea and run with it, which is why we have to determine maximum profit from the door.  We are taking control of 125 to 200 cities ourselves when we open this up.  We are just seeing what kind of interest we can get prior to launch.
legendary
Activity: 1316
Merit: 1004
Still have no idea what the project is or what i would be doing.
As for now we are keeping it that way.   This project could get swiped out from under us with someone who has more money than we do, which would destroy everything we have been working for.  We are just looking to see who is interested before we finish the project.

Well no offense, but if you wanted to keep things under wraps until you have your project/service fully developed (sounds like you're going to proceed developing it anyways), then why would you bother trying to garner interest in getting investors? If you wanted to protect your idea from being so easily taken over by someone else, then why not just apply for a patent on your business idea/product. Even after you get everything situated and developed, you still can't necessarily trust people not to take your idea and run with it when you finally tell investors how things would work.

Investors like seeing a finished project that they can tell if they at going to make a decent ROI with it.
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
Still have no idea what the project is or what i would be doing.
As for now we are keeping it that way.   This project could get swiped out from under us with someone who has more money than we do, which would destroy everything we have been working for.  We are just looking to see who is interested before we finish the project.
legendary
Activity: 910
Merit: 1000
Still have no idea what the project is or what i would be doing.
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
I would like more info if/when you can say what the project actually is.

We are hoping to launch in January of next year.  What other information are you looking for?
hero member
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So in a way, it sounds like this is more of a bank/stock brokerage? Idk, just sounds like that though... but from what you're saying, the only thing you need to do is to have the funds available and ready when the time comes and you are ready to start taking investment order... but here's the reason why I'm skeptical: I am not going to say what the nature of the business is at this time.  All investors will be given a preview prior to making the investment, just to make sure this is something they are interested in.  This way there are no surprises.

If you are making a niche market where you have a certain business project outlined, the thing is, is that the person who is getting invested into something like this will probably need to know something about what they are doing.  They will need to know what they are doing, but we are taking a lot of the work out of play so that the investor can sit in front of a computer in their underwear to run this or pay someone $10 an hour to process the transactions when they come in.  So for example: someone who is a computer scientist probably won't know how to economically run a business. We are doing all of the leg work to put this all together in so that this will be a turn key business.  We beleive this will assist in making this a low blow.  People have knowledge in many different fields, and I doubt that "every one" with the funds you are requesting people to have are the only thing they need to make a ROI out of this... Not to mention you need to advertise your product, try to get people to do business with you, and maybe even need to rent out a building to do business at so people know where to go to talk to you about stuff. You do not need an office unless you want one.  I can run 25 cities from my home computer and it is not even that good. People don't tend to do business with people when it's all based on the internet, especially the case if you are trying to get people to take over 10,000 cities in America or wherever.  The money part of the business will be online. The business part of this is in the open and will be all taken care of by your customers.
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Ok, so maybe I'm reading into this in a wrong way, but how you described the business plan in the last part I bolded and underlined it seems as if this is more of a pyramid scheme?  So like those Verge energy drinks or whatever else the "customer" needs to purchase something in order for them to sell it and so on?  If the business is "taken care of by your customers", then this screams out pyramid scheme to me... did I get that wrong?
Wrong choice of words, but I have to be careful how I put things for we can not have someone with a lot of money coming to take this out from under us.  This is nothing like a pyramid scheme.
legendary
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I would like more info if/when you can say what the project actually is.
legendary
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So in a way, it sounds like this is more of a bank/stock brokerage? Idk, just sounds like that though... but from what you're saying, the only thing you need to do is to have the funds available and ready when the time comes and you are ready to start taking investment order... but here's the reason why I'm skeptical: I am not going to say what the nature of the business is at this time.  All investors will be given a preview prior to making the investment, just to make sure this is something they are interested in.  This way there are no surprises.

If you are making a niche market where you have a certain business project outlined, the thing is, is that the person who is getting invested into something like this will probably need to know something about what they are doing.  They will need to know what they are doing, but we are taking a lot of the work out of play so that the investor can sit in front of a computer in their underwear to run this or pay someone $10 an hour to process the transactions when they come in.  So for example: someone who is a computer scientist probably won't know how to economically run a business. We are doing all of the leg work to put this all together in so that this will be a turn key business.  We beleive this will assist in making this a low blow.  People have knowledge in many different fields, and I doubt that "every one" with the funds you are requesting people to have are the only thing they need to make a ROI out of this... Not to mention you need to advertise your product, try to get people to do business with you, and maybe even need to rent out a building to do business at so people know where to go to talk to you about stuff. You do not need an office unless you want one.  I can run 25 cities from my home computer and it is not even that good. People don't tend to do business with people when it's all based on the internet, especially the case if you are trying to get people to take over 10,000 cities in America or wherever.  The money part of the business will be online. The business part of this is in the open and will be all taken care of by your customers.
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Ok, so maybe I'm reading into this in a wrong way, but how you described the business plan in the last part I bolded and underlined it seems as if this is more of a pyramid scheme?  So like those Verge energy drinks or whatever else the "customer" needs to purchase something in order for them to sell it and so on?  If the business is "taken care of by your customers", then this screams out pyramid scheme to me... did I get that wrong?
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
How much work is involved as a investor? 
You can be a money only investor and we will do the legwork for you with a 80/20 split (you get 80), or you can just make the initial investment and run the whole company yourself. 
hero member
Activity: 588
Merit: 500
I'm interested but skeptical since there is no info. Could you at least give out a little bit more information as to what this is about in general? Is it btc exchange?
I can give some general info, but we are keeping this under wraps until we are ready to go live.  This project can be duplicated by anyone and I am sure it will once we hit the floor running.  We are just trying to keep this with the people instead of letting some large investor or company take it and run it with large corporate profit margins.  This project will make using Bitcoin like using a credit card, allowing and informing more users about bitcoin and making it more profitable.

So in a way, it sounds like this is more of a bank/stock brokerage? Idk, just sounds like that though... but from what you're saying, the only thing you need to do is to have the funds available and ready when the time comes and you are ready to start taking investment order... but here's the reason why I'm skeptical: I am not going to say what the nature of the business is at this time.  All investors will be given a preview prior to making the investment, just to make sure this is something they are interested in.  This way there are no surprises.

If you are making a niche market where you have a certain business project outlined, the thing is, is that the person who is getting invested into something like this will probably need to know something about what they are doing.  They will need to know what they are doing, but we are taking a lot of the work out of play so that the investor can sit in front of a computer in their underwear to run this or pay someone $10 an hour to process the transactions when they come in.  So for example: someone who is a computer scientist probably won't know how to economically run a business. We are doing all of the leg work to put this all together in so that this will be a turn key business.  We beleive this will assist in making this a low blow.  People have knowledge in many different fields, and I doubt that "every one" with the funds you are requesting people to have are the only thing they need to make a ROI out of this... Not to mention you need to advertise your product, try to get people to do business with you, and maybe even need to rent out a building to do business at so people know where to go to talk to you about stuff. You do not need an office unless you want one.  I can run 25 cities from my home computer and it is not even that good. People don't tend to do business with people when it's all based on the internet, especially the case if you are trying to get people to take over 10,000 cities in America or wherever.  The money part of the business will be online. The business part of this is in the open and will be all taken care of by your customers.
I agree with what you are saying and we have already come to these conclusions.  I have answered your questions in red.  I hope I am giving enough information.  Please feel free to ask more questions if you have them.  We are just looking to see how many people we have interested so we know how in-depth we have to go with this.  For example, we are not going to do the research needed to cover Florida law if we have no interest in Florida. 
legendary
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SpacePirate.io
How much work is involved as a investor? 

There's no time to ask questions!!! Quick!!!


legendary
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How much work is involved as a investor? 
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