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shorena

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Quote from: tonygal on January 02, 2015, 02:13:50 PM

Quote from: shorena on January 02, 2015, 07:40:54 AM

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[1] http://213.165.91.169/

That looks really nice. Is there a step-by-step guide how to set up a full node available somewhere?

There is some sort of script flying around for Ubuntu Server but it did not work for me so I did it by hand. Its just an install of bitcoin core and for ubuntu there is a repo, so its not much. You will have no info page though.

Quote from: Buffer Overflow on January 02, 2015, 09:41:54 AM

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What program did you use to get those stats?

rrdtool [2] and shellscripts (cronjobs)

details about that can be found here [1]. Its not a step by step, but it should get you started

[1] http://213.165.91.169/whatdo.txt
[2] http://oss.oetiker.ch/rrdtool/

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Quote from: ranochigo on January 03, 2015, 04:05:05 AM

SSD would use less power and be more resistant to damage than old HDD. They are also much faster than HDD and is useful for syncing and relaying of blocks.

Well, on paper a ssd is way faster than hdd but a BananaPi with SATA 1 Interface and an 10 MBit upload connection won't use nearly the max. read/write performance of the ssd. But an ssd would be useful when supplying many different parts of the blockchain to many different nodes at the same time, right?

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Quote from: Lincoln6Echo on January 02, 2015, 02:05:52 PM

How about an Banana Pi as full node? It costs nearly the same as RPI but has 1GB of Ram (which should be sufficient,right) and a SATA Port.
In March I will try to get a full node running on Banana Pi with 10Mbit upload. Will there be a significant benefit for using an old SSD for Blockchain storage instead of oldschool HDD? Maybe I/O performance?

Another cool Project: Bitcoin full node using Intel Edison!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9064556

SSD would use less power and be more resistant to damage than old HDD. They are also much faster than HDD and is useful for syncing and relaying of blocks.

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http://blog.pryds.eu/2014/06/compile-bitcoin-core-on-raspberry-pi.html

instead of the sdcard, get one external hdd and use it full time /home/ and move all the partitions to external hdd, use just a 4 gb sd for the other partitions.

Get an usb hub or use latest raspberry pi b+ with the 4 usb hubs, should do well, im planning my self to set one up in later january

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Quote from: shorena on January 02, 2015, 07:40:54 AM

Quote from: tonygal on January 02, 2015, 06:31:43 AM

Thanks for your answers. So I'm lead to the conclusion the cheapest option (without much tweaking)
would be to rent out a virtual server. They can be had for a couple of $'s and should
be sufficient ram-wise and traffic-wise (usually at least 50-100 GB/month is included in these
contracts). Did someone try that?

Mine [1] is a VServer (single core, 2 GB Ram, 50(?)GB SSD) and its fine as a node. Its a bit slow from time to time for the analysis of the mempool I want to run, but Im working on another baremetal server at home for that.

[1] http://213.165.91.169/

That looks really nice. Is there a step-by-step guide how to set up a full node available somewhere?

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How about an Banana Pi as full node? It costs nearly the same as RPI but has 1GB of Ram (which should be sufficient,right) and a SATA Port.
In March I will try to get a full node running on Banana Pi with 10Mbit upload. Will there be a significant benefit for using an old SSD for Blockchain storage instead of oldschool HDD? Maybe I/O performance?

Another cool Project: Bitcoin full node using Intel Edison!
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9064556

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Quote from: Buffer Overflow on January 02, 2015, 09:38:18 AM

Quote from: Remember remember the 5th of November on January 02, 2015, 06:10:39 AM

Quote from: Buffer Overflow on January 01, 2015, 03:22:34 PM

Quote from: cozk on December 31, 2014, 11:41:08 PM

What is the cheapest way to run a full node. I do have a few external HDDs and rasp pi laying around.
No unused laptops though.

Suggestions ? ideas ?

You'll have difficulty running a full node on a pi. It doesn't have enough ram and will end up using swap.

With some configuration, it is possible to reduce the memory footprint to as low as 200 or lower megabytes.

Can you show me how to do this? I would prefer to use a Pi instead of an x86_64 motherboard setup.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.8632982

However, setting -listen to 0 means you will not be relaying transactions to other nodes, and that is the most important part of being a full node. You will still be receiving transactions, just not relaying them to other peers.

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Quote from: Buffer Overflow on January 01, 2015, 03:22:34 PM

Quote from: cozk on December 31, 2014, 11:41:08 PM

What is the cheapest way to run a full node. I do have a few external HDDs and rasp pi laying around.
No unused laptops though.

Suggestions ? ideas ?

You'll have difficulty running a full node on a pi. It doesn't have enough ram and will end up using swap.

You can use swap and also take steps to reduce memory usage but you would need to have a hard disk/SSD connected to the pi. AFAIK, SD cards aren't designed to have a heavy read and write cycles and can be relatively slow.

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Quote from: shorena on January 02, 2015, 07:40:54 AM

Quote from: tonygal on January 02, 2015, 06:31:43 AM

Thanks for your answers. So I'm lead to the conclusion the cheapest option (without much tweaking)
would be to rent out a virtual server. They can be had for a couple of $'s and should
be sufficient ram-wise and traffic-wise (usually at least 50-100 GB/month is included in these
contracts). Did someone try that?

Mine [1] is a VServer (single core, 2 GB Ram, 50(?)GB SSD) and its fine as a node. Its a bit slow from time to time for the analysis of the mempool I want to run, but Im working on another baremetal server at home for that.

[1] http://213.165.91.169/

What program did you use to get those stats?

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Quote from: Remember remember the 5th of November on January 02, 2015, 06:10:39 AM

Quote from: Buffer Overflow on January 01, 2015, 03:22:34 PM

Quote from: cozk on December 31, 2014, 11:41:08 PM

What is the cheapest way to run a full node. I do have a few external HDDs and rasp pi laying around.
No unused laptops though.

Suggestions ? ideas ?

You'll have difficulty running a full node on a pi. It doesn't have enough ram and will end up using swap.

With some configuration, it is possible to reduce the memory footprint to as low as 200 or lower megabytes.

Can you show me how to do this? I would prefer to use a Pi instead of an x86_64 motherboard setup.

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Quote from: tonygal on January 02, 2015, 06:31:43 AM

Thanks for your answers. So I'm lead to the conclusion the cheapest option (without much tweaking)
would be to rent out a virtual server. They can be had for a couple of $'s and should
be sufficient ram-wise and traffic-wise (usually at least 50-100 GB/month is included in these
contracts). Did someone try that?

Mine [1] is a VServer (single core, 2 GB Ram, 50(?)GB SSD) and its fine as a node. Its a bit slow from time to time for the analysis of the mempool I want to run, but Im working on another baremetal server at home for that.

[1] http://213.165.91.169/

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Thanks for your answers. So I'm lead to the conclusion the cheapest option (without much tweaking)
would be to rent out a virtual server. They can be had for a couple of $'s and should
be sufficient ram-wise and traffic-wise (usually at least 50-100 GB/month is included in these
contracts). Did someone try that?

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Quote from: Buffer Overflow on January 01, 2015, 03:22:34 PM

Quote from: cozk on December 31, 2014, 11:41:08 PM

What is the cheapest way to run a full node. I do have a few external HDDs and rasp pi laying around.
No unused laptops though.

Suggestions ? ideas ?

You'll have difficulty running a full node on a pi. It doesn't have enough ram and will end up using swap.

With some configuration, it is possible to reduce the memory footprint to as low as 200 or lower megabytes.

shorena

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Quote from: tonygal on January 01, 2015, 03:26:25 PM

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Would it be possible using a bananapi or cubietruck or something similar? Can you say something
about the "realistic" minimal requirements? I'd also interested in how much traffic this would cause
per month.

Traffic depends on the number of connections obviously. I limited them to 50 a while back.

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Buffer Overflow

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Quote from: tonygal on January 01, 2015, 03:26:25 PM

Can you say something
about the "realistic" minimal requirements? I'd also interested in how much traffic this would cause
per month.

My full node is currently using 660MB of ram, connected to 54 peers.

Not sure how much bandwidth I use each month. I have an unlimited home broadband package, so I don't worry about it.

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Not the cheapest, but has been running well since it was installed 6 weeks ago.

$300:
Intel Atom E3815.1 1.46GHz Fanless NUC Barebone Kit
Crucial 8 GB Single DDR3 1600 Mt/s
Intel 520 SSD 120 GB
Ubuntu 14.04.1 LTS x86_64

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Quote from: tonygal on January 01, 2015, 03:26:25 PM

Quote from: Buffer Overflow on January 01, 2015, 03:22:34 PM

Quote from: cozk on December 31, 2014, 11:41:08 PM

What is the cheapest way to run a full node. I do have a few external HDDs and rasp pi laying around.
No unused laptops though.

Suggestions ? ideas ?

You'll have difficulty running a full node on a pi. It doesn't have enough ram and will end up using swap.

Would it be possible using a bananapi or cubietruck or something similar? Can you say something
about the "realistic" minimal requirements? I'd also interested in how much traffic this would cause
per month.

3-5gb upload per day i heard.

tonygal

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Quote from: Buffer Overflow on January 01, 2015, 03:22:34 PM

Quote from: cozk on December 31, 2014, 11:41:08 PM

What is the cheapest way to run a full node. I do have a few external HDDs and rasp pi laying around.
No unused laptops though.

Suggestions ? ideas ?

You'll have difficulty running a full node on a pi. It doesn't have enough ram and will end up using swap.

Would it be possible using a bananapi or cubietruck or something similar? Can you say something
about the "realistic" minimal requirements? I'd also interested in how much traffic this would cause
per month.

Buffer Overflow

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Quote from: cozk on December 31, 2014, 11:41:08 PM

What is the cheapest way to run a full node. I do have a few external HDDs and rasp pi laying around.
No unused laptops though.

Suggestions ? ideas ?

You'll have difficulty running a full node on a pi. It doesn't have enough ram and will end up using swap.

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Quote from: OrientA on January 01, 2015, 12:58:00 PM

We can use the home computer and launch the bitcoin wallet when we turn on the computer. That is a kind of full node, although it is off some time.

I don't know what you're trying to say, but answer to op: if you want to rent/pay for it then price shouldn't be above 20$/year.

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