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Topic: Cheaters are Destroying the System, How can we Deal with them? - page 2. (Read 593 times)
October 23, 2018, 12:49:27 PM
October 23, 2018, 12:43:15 PM
Why i'm writting this topic?
my purpose from this topic is to discuss with you guys how can we stop the cheaters, i hope everyone can share here his visoin on how to stop them and after that we'll clarify and filter all the replies to get the basic rules that can be used by the bounties' managers to prevent the cheaters from being exist.
Also what is your opinion for sharing here all the cheaters accounts so they'll we known by us, so everyone can reports them to the bounties' managers for the bounties that we are participating in.
exist yet abuse can be done without even being detected and come to think that managers or handlers aren't perfect too when checking out multi-accounts so we wont really have anything to be done to stop
them completely but somehow when we saw up individuals caught on such act then its always be advisable to report them immediately to be given an immediate action.
October 23, 2018, 12:40:31 PM
Hi guys,
In the last 4 months i noted that a lot of people are creating many accounts (fake accounts) to participate in the bounties as multi accounts per user and as we all know that one of the main rules for every bounty is to use only one accounts per user.
Cheaters are greedy and harmful
Cheaters are not greedy they are so greedy, in the beginning they starting with two or three fake accounts then after a while they became having many fake accounts per one user.
They are not only so greedy but also harming, because after a while they starting to harm other bounty hunters, as an example for the reddit campaign they are using their fake accounts to downvotes the other hunters in order to decrease their stakes which logically will go to them because they are using their fake accounts to get a lot of upvotes.
Another example is for the blog/article campaign, the campaign that are beeing attacked by a lot of cheaters in the last months, they are using fake bitcointalks accounts to steal hunters' articles and adding their wallets.
These cheaters are destroying the system, they collecting a lot of tokens for each project and then sell them immediately when the project hit the exchange causing a dump in the price which also causes another loss for the investors.
I had saw a lot of cheaters and i know a lot of fake accounts on twitter, facebook, reddit, medium and bitcointalk accounts. i have a big list of cheaters but then what? every time i report tens of them i see hundreds coming and if i continued doing that i'm losing a lot of time hunting them, we need a creative solution to stop the cheaters, we want a clear and perfect system to stop and prevent them from the beginning..
Why i'm writting this topic?
my purpose from this topic is to discuss with you guys how can we stop the cheaters, i hope everyone can share here his visoin on how to stop them and after that we'll clarify and filter all the replies to get the basic rules that can be used by the bounties' managers to prevent the cheaters from being exist.
Also what is your opinion for sharing here all the cheaters accounts so they'll we known by us, so everyone can reports them to the bounties' managers for the bounties that we are participating in.
In the last 4 months i noted that a lot of people are creating many accounts (fake accounts) to participate in the bounties as multi accounts per user and as we all know that one of the main rules for every bounty is to use only one accounts per user.
Cheaters are greedy and harmful
Cheaters are not greedy they are so greedy, in the beginning they starting with two or three fake accounts then after a while they became having many fake accounts per one user.
They are not only so greedy but also harming, because after a while they starting to harm other bounty hunters, as an example for the reddit campaign they are using their fake accounts to downvotes the other hunters in order to decrease their stakes which logically will go to them because they are using their fake accounts to get a lot of upvotes.
Another example is for the blog/article campaign, the campaign that are beeing attacked by a lot of cheaters in the last months, they are using fake bitcointalks accounts to steal hunters' articles and adding their wallets.
These cheaters are destroying the system, they collecting a lot of tokens for each project and then sell them immediately when the project hit the exchange causing a dump in the price which also causes another loss for the investors.
I had saw a lot of cheaters and i know a lot of fake accounts on twitter, facebook, reddit, medium and bitcointalk accounts. i have a big list of cheaters but then what? every time i report tens of them i see hundreds coming and if i continued doing that i'm losing a lot of time hunting them, we need a creative solution to stop the cheaters, we want a clear and perfect system to stop and prevent them from the beginning..
Why i'm writting this topic?
my purpose from this topic is to discuss with you guys how can we stop the cheaters, i hope everyone can share here his visoin on how to stop them and after that we'll clarify and filter all the replies to get the basic rules that can be used by the bounties' managers to prevent the cheaters from being exist.
Also what is your opinion for sharing here all the cheaters accounts so they'll we known by us, so everyone can reports them to the bounties' managers for the bounties that we are participating in.
The only thing that we can do is stay safe and be careful when loggin in our wallet.
Because no system is safe. everything that in internet is hackable
October 23, 2018, 12:34:25 PM
I think the main problem is not entirely in greed, but the fact that payments to bounty are now extremely small compared with the same period in 2017. And of course this situation will provoke people to dishonest work.
October 23, 2018, 12:04:45 PM
The solution to this problem is that the project will pay the tokens to the bounty participant's wallet on the project's ICO website, and ask everyone to KYC. It will eliminate a lot of cheaters. However, they need to redistribute their stake after eliminating the cheaters.
October 23, 2018, 11:58:52 AM
I definitely agree with you but what can we do? I think it will be figured out by the destiny. You know, like the market will wipe them out by itself somehow.
October 23, 2018, 11:56:54 AM
I would not talk or negotiate with them, because there is no point in this, it seems to me that the opposite improves the possibilities for creating normal projects and more secure systems.
October 23, 2018, 11:53:55 AM
Honestly, if we are all smart enough to be able to identify cheaters from the real thing, this space would be a better place as cheaters will rather get frustrated eventually but for the fact that there are gullible investors, the space is not regulated, then the chances of seeing cheaters thriving will always be there. As much as we want to blame the cheaters, we also have to blame gullible, inexperienced and naive investors as well who are always too lazy to read in between the lines. If you know what to look for in a team as well as product availability, you will not need a soothsayer to tell you whether you should be investing in a project or not.
This reply has no relation to the topic, i hope you can read the topic again to know the subject we are discussing.
October 23, 2018, 10:29:05 AM
Honestly, if we are all smart enough to be able to identify cheaters from the real thing, this space would be a better place as cheaters will rather get frustrated eventually but for the fact that there are gullible investors, the space is not regulated, then the chances of seeing cheaters thriving will always be there. As much as we want to blame the cheaters, we also have to blame gullible, inexperienced and naive investors as well who are always too lazy to read in between the lines. If you know what to look for in a team as well as product availability, you will not need a soothsayer to tell you whether you should be investing in a project or not.
October 23, 2018, 07:31:37 AM
Unfortunately, until recently, it paid to create fake accounts a do bounty, but now I think that the merit system plus the junior demotion has resulted quite positive for us.
October 23, 2018, 07:21:48 AM
Cheaters are not only destroying the system but effecting the initial faith of the investors in the market ,we are in the crypyo market which is technology based market, it has the potential to coup with such type of cheaters.
There are bound to be some implications with the characteristics of this market. However, I do agree that technology will give us a way to coup with this. I also believe that we need some sort of regulations(a lot of people might not agree on this). In my opinion, if everything is in moderation, regulations are good to boost confidence and build faith in the market.
October 23, 2018, 06:44:37 AM
I think these cheaters knows about their violation such as doing many accounts in the forum wherein they are greedy since most probably they wanted to join as many bounty campaign they want. I hope these people should refrain there doings as this is not a healthy environment and it's more of a very individualistic personal interest for their own advantage.
October 23, 2018, 05:59:40 AM
with a lot of fake accounts popping up, this is because the total supply for bounty hunters is very little, so in my opinion don't be unilaterally prosecuted.
try as in previous years the total supply is up to 25% to 30%.
in my opinion this also needs to be corrected
try as in previous years the total supply is up to 25% to 30%.
in my opinion this also needs to be corrected
October 23, 2018, 05:39:20 AM
Sometimes bounty managers focus on the numbers and the success of the bounty program and care less about implementing stringent measures in tackling fraudulent participants. As much we try to kick against KYCs, I think it's a veritable tool in curbing the menace of cheaters in different bounties. There are several problems KYC helps to solve, from multiple registrations from one person to cheats who claim the stakes of others by duplication their name on the spreadsheet.
A lot of Bounty hunters are anti-KYC, and will be the first to cry foul when cheaters do their thing. So, for me it's expedient that bounty managers implement and this must be done ab initio, it must be part of the general rules of the bounty and not introduced midway or at the end of the campaign. This give the bounty hunter the choice of deciding whether or not participate in a bounty which KYC is required.
A lot of Bounty hunters are anti-KYC, and will be the first to cry foul when cheaters do their thing. So, for me it's expedient that bounty managers implement and this must be done ab initio, it must be part of the general rules of the bounty and not introduced midway or at the end of the campaign. This give the bounty hunter the choice of deciding whether or not participate in a bounty which KYC is required.
October 23, 2018, 05:29:01 AM
I think no bounty campaign allows multiple accounts, if you participate in a single campaign with multiple accounts they will track and blacklist you and will not send you any tokens, if you read the rules for eaxh bounty campaign you will see it is written clearly in each campaign.
Those who use multiple accounts are not stupid, they will do many ways so that others are not known, especially the bounty manager. One other way to deal with this issue is, every bounty manager must implement strict regulations, especially for those who take part in the signature campaign. Each signature campaign participant must make a constructive post in large numbers, so that those who take part with several accounts will be overwhelmed by the existing rules. 
October 23, 2018, 05:28:17 AM
I'm not sure about multiple accounts as you say because bounty projects now revert to kyc for participants
Cheaters always find ways how to deal with KYC if needed in bounty campaign.No I disagree, bounty hunters get less than 1% of total supply
That's to low to crash a market
October 23, 2018, 05:19:16 AM
I think no bounty campaign allows multiple accounts, if you participate in a single campaign with multiple accounts they will track and blacklist you and will not send you any tokens, if you read the rules for eaxh bounty campaign you will see it is written clearly in each campaign.
October 23, 2018, 03:05:30 AM
October 23, 2018, 02:27:44 AM
That should make us realize the importance of KYC in bounty campaign. Moreover, there are few bounty managers here that try to solve this issue by posting authentication posts. It should now be the priority of the managers to filter who are the scammers and who are being honest. Scammers will always be scammers, managers should exert more efforts, I suggest.
October 23, 2018, 01:50:07 AM
There are many way to deal with this but this will be impossible if the campaign manager is lazy. The first is through introduction of KYC.this has nothing to do with the campaign manager because the Project team will be in charge of this. The second means is applicable to some specific campaign such as media campaign. this involve
(1) Making all hunters to write proof of Authentication
(2) Adding of Wallet address to media posts.
(3) permanent ban of any account caught cheating
other means is direct reporting of possible cheaters by bounty hunters caught cheating. Some lazy ass will copy somones work and register it with their ETH address.
(1) Making all hunters to write proof of Authentication
(2) Adding of Wallet address to media posts.
(3) permanent ban of any account caught cheating
other means is direct reporting of possible cheaters by bounty hunters caught cheating. Some lazy ass will copy somones work and register it with their ETH address.
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