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Quote from: Negotiation on April 24, 2020, 09:31:58 AM

I don't like playing in crypto casinos at all Those who have experience here have more chances to win but lose more Gambling is not legal in most countries

In games that involves skill there's a difference but on casino games that are easy to play it's most likely the same. Having more experience can only get gamblers up to a certain point (setting preferred strategies, bankroll management, etc) because eventually the house edge would start to kick in.

Quote from: greylandm on April 27, 2020, 06:02:48 PM

The most ridiculous thing about such scams is that they require KYC only for withdrawals but you can freely deposit without passing it Grin

That's what happens when gamblers quickly skip the terms and conditions on registration.

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Quote from: CryCrptoCry on April 24, 2020, 06:44:43 AM

Now a days I am seeing more and more crypto casino scams. I realized that it will be good to post a check list for newbies in order to prevent it before hand.

The most important of them all has to do with verifying if they have scam accusations against them to avoid falling victim to scams. Next is to read the terms and conditions before patronizing the platform to avoid regrets of not knowing their terms and also confirming your deposit address before sending your coins to the address both when you're withdrawing from the casino.

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The most ridiculous thing about such scams is that they require KYC only for withdrawals but you can freely deposit without passing it Grin

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Not all online casino scams, because I am among those who always try various online casinos. Of all the online casinos that I have participated in,
maybe around 60% scams. But every person has their own assessment of online casino, therefore the percentage of online casino the scams will
be different from everyone. So my advice is do some research and investigation before joining an online casino. So minimize our chances of
becoming victims of scammers. And most importantly used money that we can afford to lose as gambling capital, and don't get addicted in gambling.

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Quote from: CryCrptoCry on April 24, 2020, 06:44:43 AM

1. Check if there is any unresolved scam accusations against them in the
forum.

First thing that should really be done if we are totally clueless on the sites reputation.Search everything when it comes to reputation.
We will find out issues as well if it did get resolved or still pending.

Quote from: CryCrptoCry on April 24, 2020, 06:44:43 AM

2. Do not trust brand new casinos offering 100 or 200% depositing bonus.

Not usually the case yet there are really legit ones who make this kind of offer.

Quote from: CryCrptoCry on April 24, 2020, 06:44:43 AM

3. Stay away from casinos who requires KYC documents

KYC here on crypto space should really be crossed out. lol
This is only applicable on fiat based casino but for crypto? (which i havent seen one).

Quote from: CryCrptoCry on April 24, 2020, 06:44:43 AM

7. Read their terms and conditions thoroughly.

People do always missed this thing and when problem arise then thats the time they would read up the TOS.

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Quote from: Eplus_Team on April 24, 2020, 07:12:08 AM

I would recommend to stay away from all online Casinos, the houese (owner of the Casino) always wins.

That's unfounded information. The house win but not always: if the house always win I see no reason why gambler Lome me would choose to gamble at their own expense. Believe this, those who think they're not going to win while gambling will ends up losing their betts in the process. The house win and I win which is equally a fifty-fifty win and not just a win for the house mate. As a gambler, don't attempt any game you're not good at to cast the blame on the platform (the House).

This is why gambling sites have probably fair to avoid this kind of thinking that Casino always wins. There are many gamblers that win on gambling site because of their skills and luck. You should always consider the contentment on the profit you earn on playing gambling to avoid losing in the latter part.

Contentment is always been an issue in most gamblers and majority of them will surely play even if they already had win some amounts due to greed.
It no surprising that people who do lose on a casino or any gambling site will surely say that the site isnt fair when they lose big time - nothing new.

When it comes to checklist before on playing on a crypto casino then i will always look for positive feedback because if you do get this kind of sentiment
then you can presume that it do generally checks out the box when it comes to qualities.

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Quote from: CryCrptoCry on April 24, 2020, 06:44:43 AM

3. Stay away from casinos who requires KYC documents.

Some casinos asks for KYC because they have to comply with legislations of the country from where they got their license. Better avoid them if you value your privacy. But doesn't mean they are going to scam you.

Quote from: Eplus_Team on April 24, 2020, 07:12:08 AM

I would recommend to stay away from all online Casinos, the houese (owner of the Casino) always wins.

Exchanges always win, mixers always win... Does this mean we should not use them!

Quote from: 20kevin20 on April 27, 2020, 07:37:02 AM

I'd add something: if you've been scammed and Game-Protect contacts you, don't give them any money. You'd be on a double-loss!

Quote from: shield132 on April 27, 2020, 01:39:40 PM

If you still get scammed, do not panic, gather all information and send it to game-protect. He will save the world and give your money back while scammers will be in prison forever. (I joke of course).

game-protect's account has been banned.

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Quote from: Eplus_Team on April 24, 2020, 07:12:08 AM

I would recommend to stay away from all online Casinos, the houese (owner of the Casino) always wins.

That's unfounded information. The house win but not always: if the house always win I see no reason why gambler Lome me would choose to gamble at their own expense. Believe this, those who think they're not going to win while gambling will ends up losing their betts in the process. The house win and I win which is equally a fifty-fifty win and not just a win for the house mate. As a gambler, don't attempt any game you're not good at to cast the blame on the platform (the House).

This is why gambling sites have probably fair to avoid this kind of thinking that Casino always wins. There are many gamblers that win on gambling site because of their skills and luck. You should always consider the contentment on the profit you earn on playing gambling to avoid losing in the latter part.

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Quote from: Sebas.tian on April 27, 2020, 02:03:04 PM

Quote from: Eplus_Team on April 24, 2020, 07:12:08 AM

I would recommend to stay away from all online Casinos, the houese (owner of the Casino) always wins.

That's unfounded information. The house win but not always: if the house always win I see no reason why gambler Lome me would choose to gamble at their own expense. Believe this, those who think they're not going to win while gambling will ends up losing their betts in the process. The house win and I win which is equally a fifty-fifty win and not just a win for the house mate. As a gambler, don't attempt any game you're not good at to cast the blame on the platform (the House).

they can play for fun if that is the case or if the house only wins because they dont need a profit anyway . it was like they are paying for thier entertainment . and what is the relation of negative thinking and winning or loosing ? i do sometimes think negative but i didnt expect that i will win or maybe to some they loose because when they think negative , they will not be able to think and act properly which will affect thier gameplay . you also got a point on your last sentence , i see lots of gamblers that loose and complain with that reasoning

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Quote from: Eplus_Team on April 24, 2020, 07:12:08 AM

I would recommend to stay away from all online Casinos, the houese (owner of the Casino) always wins.

That's unfounded information. The house win but not always: if the house always win I see no reason why gambler Lome me would choose to gamble at their own expense. Believe this, those who think they're not going to win while gambling will ends up losing their betts in the process. The house win and I win which is equally a fifty-fifty win and not just a win for the house mate. As a gambler, don't attempt any game you're not good at to cast the blame on the platform (the House).

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Quote from: CryCrptoCry on April 24, 2020, 06:44:43 AM

9. If still you get scammed, do not panic, do not think its end of the
world, gather all the related information you have and open scam
accusation against them in the forum.

If you still get scammed, do not panic, gather all information and send it to game-protect. He will save the world and give your money back while scammers will be in prison forever. (I joke of course).
Btw in this thread there isn't list given but a criterias that any user should consider. Since the bitcointalk is big community, personally I think that users should check ANN and scam accusation threads of casinos they are going to play on. This will lessen the number scam victims.

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The list is as comprehensive as it gets. I agree to most points written in here except for this one:

Quote from: CryCrptoCry on April 24, 2020, 06:44:43 AM

3. Stay away from casinos who requires KYC documents.

There are numerous legitimate crypto casinos nowadays asking for KYC since they are covered by KYC regulations within the region that they are servicing. This doesn't mean that they are untrustworthy or they will be using the information for something nasty; it's just there for compliance. Now I'm not saying I fully support KYC: I oppose it whenever the situation obviously doesn't need one but there are genuine instances in which KYC is really needed, and in this case, proof of account ownership should there be any anomalies happening within the account. This also gives you some form of protection--no matter how odd that seems to be--in times of hacks and whatnot.

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Quote from: erep on April 27, 2020, 11:31:12 AM

That's a different matter, the team needs KYC documents to prove ownership of the account or return the account to the original user if the report is hacked. In the gambling platform, KYC documents must not be requested unless the new gambling platform requires KYC then that is suspicion.

There are several points where site owners ask users to verify their accounts sending KYC documents and it seems that only they are suspected of cheating. There have been many attempts by gamblers to trick the site, one of the problems is having multiple accounts on the same site. When the owner starts to get suspicious about the accounts activities, KYC is the thing that will answer their suspicions.

Many people do not like to reveal their personal data in the form of KYC on gambling sites because of privacy. So no need to force yourself to join a site that requires players to send KYC documents if we care about privacy.

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Quote from: blockman on April 27, 2020, 10:58:47 AM

There are casinos that ask for documents if they feel that something is wrong with your account and play history. This is applied for special cases and I've seen some gamblers that actually experienced this and told their experiences before because they have found trouble withdrawing their funds.

That's a different matter, the team needs KYC documents to prove ownership of the account or return the account to the original user if the report is hacked. In the gambling platform, KYC documents must not be requested unless the new gambling platform requires KYC then that is suspicion.

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Quote from: Eplus_Team on April 24, 2020, 07:12:08 AM

I would recommend to stay away from all online Casinos, the houese (owner of the Casino) always wins.

That is what you get if you are playing gambling because you should know what your reason for playing gambling is. If you are playing gambling because you want to have fun, you don't have to think about the house will always win because you don't have a reason to make money from gambling. You are only playing gambling to spend your time, and you know how to treat gambling so you can also control yourself.

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These checklists may be useful for newbie gamblers but I am gambling with only one casino for last 4 years but I do follow them their topic in this forum, so that I believe I am gambling within safe hands rather than worrying about what is going to happen tomorrow. Still I recommend these checklist to everyone who are referring to test new gambling houses and different bonuses/giveaways.

There are big risks associated with our gambling activities when we keep on switching over to different gambling houses. Again, when we are choosing long-running gambling houses then there will be less risks compared to new houses. But, I do see people are always preferring to test new houses because new casinos are known for providing big bonuses and giveaways. Still, when we are opting to stick with only one house I guess those risks are technically eliminated still may lose some opportunities due to not availing any bonuses, but personally I never bother them as bonuses are usually comes with big wager requirements.

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Quote from: CryCrptoCry on April 24, 2020, 06:44:43 AM

3. Stay away from casinos who requires KYC documents.

There are casinos that ask for documents if they feel that something is wrong with your account and play history. This is applied for special cases and I've seen some gamblers that actually experienced this and told their experiences before because they have found trouble withdrawing their funds.

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Quote from: plvbob0070 on April 27, 2020, 08:11:39 AM

If houses always win, then why would others still spend time playing at online casinos?

Just ask yourself the opposite question. What if playing in the casino was unprofitable for the casino itself and they had to pay for it? Right, the casinos would go bankrupt immediately.
So the statement is true, in the end the casino has to generate income just like any other company.
I don't think most of us gamble because we think we can get rich quickly. For the majority of players, I think the fun of the game itself is more important than the potential profit.

Quote from: Viscore on April 27, 2020, 08:17:02 AM

Checking their ANN thread and their account would be enough, if they have a scam accusation, they'll be tag by DT members so that tag will visible and gamblers who will try to investigate on the site will see the reputation of the site through their bitcointalk account.

Tagging usually only takes place when something has already happened. If a casino plans an exit scam they will operate normally as long as possible to get as many deposits as possible and carry out the scam when the bank roll is high enough. There was recently an exit scam of a mixer, the process was similar. Only when a correspondingly large sum should be mixed, the scam was pulled through, but until then the operator here had no conspicuous tags and even organized a signature campaign.

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Checking their ANN thread and their account would be enough, if they have a scam accusation, they'll be tag by DT members so that tag will visible and gamblers who will try to investigate on the site will see the reputation of the site through their bitcointalk account.

That's why the role of the DTs are very important, as they help this forum to be safer place for newbies who want to join.

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Aside from that, when you are just new to online gambling, it's better to look at the reviews of the casino sites and just try those who have good reviews and trusted gambling sites. You can also find recommendations here in the forum if you are looking for a crypto gambling site. It would also be better to ask someone you personally know about some gambling sites that he knows and you could trust.

Quote from: Eplus_Team on April 24, 2020, 07:12:08 AM

I would recommend to stay away from all online Casinos, the houese (owner of the Casino) always wins.

If houses always win, then why would others still spend time playing at online casinos? It's normal to lose, it's not like we always win in gambling. Even in physical casinos, we don't always win. There are a lot of scams in online casinos but it does not mean that all online gambling is like that. We can also win in online casinos, but there are people who don't get contented that's why they end up losing.

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