china government son of bitch !!! - page 2.

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Quote from: otrkid70 on August 26, 2016, 07:16:11 PM

It's a shame the people of china have no spine or balls to have a Civil War for their own freedom. Live as Slaves until you wake up and revolt....Christ there is enough of you to get the job done.

bro, if you have time you should read more books about chinese history, they never stop against dictatorship even nowadays

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Quote from: Masha Sha on August 28, 2016, 02:10:07 AM

What is fun is that a group of people believe that Chinese citizens aren't interested by freedom and liberty. That they love to censored and told what to do or not...

I know from my personal conversations that a decent fraction of mainland Chinese support their government's stance on these kinds of things for the protection of society at large. Or at least the perception of this (which is in my opinion somewhat valid given the realpolitik.) My sense from my conversations is that this sentiment has been conditioned in from early childhood.

Quote from: Masha Sha on August 28, 2016, 02:10:07 AM

I would ask those idiots why do you think most Chinese once wealthy enough send their kids outside?

Opportunity. Mostly an opportunity make more money.

Many of the more wealthy Chinese are probably well aware of the desirability of diversifying in a general sense because of the multiple points of frailty of their society. China has more challenges than most. Even those individuals who do truly value freedom, liberty, etc, are probably and rightly terrified that it might actually happen.

Quote from: Masha Sha on August 28, 2016, 02:10:07 AM

The transition toward a freer society is possible but a regression too.

...whatever that means. I'm guessing that China will see a regression but it will not compare to what is seen in the West. We simply have a lot farther to fall.

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Quote from: Tyrantt on August 28, 2016, 01:04:41 AM

Quote from: zenitzz on August 27, 2016, 01:25:57 PM

China is not a dictatorship

oh, cmon dude... Are you being serious? If you ask me, china is very close to being one of the worst dictatorship countries in the world (not speaking economically but for the freedom of people).

What is fun is that a group of people believe that Chinese citizens aren't interested by freedom and liberty. That they love to censored and told what to do or not...

I would ask those idiots why do you think most Chinese once wealthy enough send their kids outside?

The transition toward a freer society is possible but a regression too.

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Quote from: zenitzz on August 27, 2016, 01:25:57 PM

China is not a dictatorship

oh, cmon dude... Are you being serious? If you ask me, china is very close to being one of the worst dictatorship countries in the world (not speaking economically but for the freedom of people).

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I think we all know that Chinas' goverment was a little too totalitarianistic since always, so things like this shouldnt realy be a surprise...

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My theory is that in terms of material comforts, the rule of the CCP since Deng Xiaoping was probably the best for 'the people.' More abstract ideas about 'liberty' and what-not are not as highly valued as in other systems. Russell put his finger on it when he said that the people will be happy because the leaders tell them they are. Many (but not all) mainlanders I know are fairly stead-fast in the basic belief that 'liberty' and 'freedom' are actually negatives. Interestingly, many of the 'regressive left' Westerners I know are 'coming around' to seeing things this way as well.

Anyway, what was yesterday will not be tomorrow. The Chinese people are living 'high' on borrowed time. They are the beneficiaries of 'globalistic' transfers of wealth and content under this rising tide mainly because their fairly recent past has been so awful. The 1,300,000,000 souls will undergo a plateau and steep plunge down the other side with the next global monetary re-implementation except...

...the globalists who've been using the nation as a plaint workshop and testing ground will depopulate it as severely as any other, and I'll bet that it will be with as much cooperation from the CCP as has been the case during the build-up.

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Quote from: zenitzz on August 27, 2016, 01:25:57 PM

China is not a dictatorship

Be sure it is, de jure at least. Just check their constitution, it declares Chinese regime as "People's democratic dictatorship".

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You say that because you think that the government of china is a dictator? China is not a dictatorship, as they do not have a dictator. They are an authoritarian regime, with a not so elected government that tells its people what to do, and does not have to worry about elections kicking them out.

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Quote from: Slow death on August 27, 2016, 10:19:17 AM

They not content to oppress their own people, oppress any people where they go.

This is exactly what I fear. How they intend to spread their way of governance worldwide.

How they support Clinton (I am sure that they contributed to the foundation).

And how I never heard Chinese speaking about peace or self-determination.

O words on a peaceful solution in Ukraine. Total support for Assad... (Not because they feared an Islamic state ready to attack them like the Russians) but simply because they oppose all form of self-governance to anyone.

How they support Iran and want to spread so called peaceful nuclear technologies.

Their will to censor Internet and which role they will play once icann isn't American anymore.

Their active participations in a lot of destabilization in Africa to extract what ever without any regards for the environment.

Yeah like you said a certain contempt for life in general...

Finally contrary to Russia they are still communists (what ever it may mean in China).

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Quote from: liyueyue8964 on August 26, 2016, 06:37:43 PM

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as expected from the Chinese, Chinese do not respect human rights, they live in a different world. if a foreigner travels to china and criticize the Chinese government? I pity of foreign, because surely this foreigner will suffer, I will set a good example:

One of the provinces of my country, the Chinese have built a city only for Chinese, workers of that city are tortured and the workers don't report this situation because they fear reprisals. The Chinese are obsessed with money and power. They not content to oppress their own people, oppress any people where they go.

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Quote from: otrkid70 on August 26, 2016, 07:16:11 PM

It's a shame the people of china have no spine or balls to have a Civil War for their own freedom. Live as Slaves until you wake up and revolt....Christ there is enough of you to get the job done.

Christ cant let them free i guess because he isnt alive but i am sure that chinese people can fight for their rights agaist chinese official. please be logical and dont hope things from imaginary things such as god, christ, moses, mohammad , buddha etc.

The difficulty is that once they assault the home of a critics they freeze the computers with gas so that what is in the ram can be preserved for further analysis... But most of the time, straight to Inner Mongolia farming wow gold coins for the prison lord.

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Quote from: otrkid70 on August 26, 2016, 07:16:11 PM

It's a shame the people of china have no spine or balls to have a Civil War for their own freedom. Live as Slaves until you wake up and revolt....Christ there is enough of you to get the job done.

Christ cant let them free i guess because he isnt alive but i am sure that chinese people can fight for their rights agaist chinese official. please be logical and dont hope things from imaginary things such as god, christ, moses, mohammad , buddha etc.

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Censoring the God given right of expression is a very serious crime.

One thing that is let to be determined is how much the Chinese gov is paying the Clinton foundation to demonize Russia in the west. This is one could have serious consequences...

Then how much the chineses are demonizing the west to the Russians... This one is easy for the Russians side to determine.

Then how is China playing Ukraine war to antagonize Russia and the west.

~~If Taylor swift isn't good enough for Chinese gov, frankly I would raise the issue at the G20 in their fucking faces, China isn't good enough for me.~~

Edit: apparently she could get there...

At one point it's important to say enough, what eve the size of the bully he is nothing in comparison to might of God... An his punishment is as just than unavoidable.

And finally what I don't like is their tendency to spread their governmental practices... Ie censorship backed by utmost violence against all dissidence to hide a professional looting enterprise. The Chinese top officials live in total luxury (specially known as the red kings, and the "private" linked sectors.

And very seriously their actives management of market pricing will not be forgotten anytime soon. You don't ban shorting who ever the fuck you are.

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27 years later from 1989 , china government still son of bitch is !!!

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Maybe they like being in such situation after all. Theyve been thay way for so long already, they unified their government by how strong the military force and war of kingdoms since ancient time.

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It's a shame the people of china have no spine or balls to have a Civil War for their own freedom. Live as Slaves until you wake up and revolt....Christ there is enough of you to get the job done.

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