China is back in a new chapter with the HMPV Virus

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Quote from: passwordnow on January 07, 2025, 05:56:28 PM

I've read some say that HMPV isn't a new virus and has been there many years ago. It's crazy that this is on all timing, I remember when covid-19 was at height, there was also another virus that was reported trying to spread somewhere but then it eventually lost the attention of the media.

Here's a quote from the "health experts".

Quote from: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hmpv-human-metapneumovirus-india-cases-confirmed-symptoms/

"Health experts have clarified that the HMPV is not a new virus; it was first identified in 2001 and it has been circulating in the entire world for many years," Indian Health Minister J. P. Nadda said Monday. "The health systems and surveillance networks of the country are vigilant and there is no reason to worry."

Every year in China, epidemics like this happen during the winter, and now someone wants to make a story about a virus that has been known for over 20 years and to which many people already have natural immunity. If a reasonable person looks back and takes a realistic look at the situation surrounding covid-19, he can conclude that this "disease" was exaggerated to incredible proportions with the obvious aim of testing how people will react if they start being treated like animals in a cage.

Covid has reportedly killed around 7 million people, but what they won't say is that the majority were mostly over 60 and that they didn't actually die from the virus, but with the virus. What I want to say is that this figure includes everyone who was found to be infected with the virus, even if the real cause of death was something completely different.

Unfortunately, the world will have to face something much more dangerous in the near future - and that threatens trade wars and claims over the territories of other countries.

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Heard about it and it's definitely getting exaggerated by the Chinese. A pandemic like COVID is an ultra rare event that probably comes around once every 200 years or even more based on my research.

on the Plus side, No recorded death yet so maybe a normal hmpv and not one made by Man.
I really don't want to imagine the collapse it would cause I'm this shaky economy.
It doesn't hurt to be cautious, countries can try increasing surveillance.

China is hiding the real situation and maybe they didn't disclose the number of cases yet. This is not the first time they are hiding this kind of situation since we already experience this when they hide Covid to the world. They only release the information when there's already a outbreak happened that's why its better to prepare than doing nothing. Although they are denying about it, but I believe there's already emergency situation happened due to that virus spreading since there's some information leaked already.

I don't think this can shake the economy since provably that leaders know what to do and lot of them gain experience thru situation happen on last covid 19.

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Quote from: naira on January 07, 2025, 02:19:40 PM

This new pandemic may be too early but Corona at that time also spread from an unknown area but spread quickly. China's population is spread all over the country, so the rate of spread can be easy.

Based on what I know, you always know the most about conspiracies, right? and it is also enough of a start for me to start it with 2025 where HMPV began to be echoed. There is always something to be suspicious of, especially since the US is again led by Trump, who is not very politically favored by China.

A new chapter of economic war must begin, and China is trying to light a little fire, just waiting for other igniters in some countries where China can easily bring immigrants. For example in my country there are 10 million people (4% - 5% of the total population).

Sheesh.. that's interesting. So what about those bat soups and other exotic foods in China that said the virus came through? So, was it only just a cover-up to hide their true motive? Hhmm... it is only sad that the blame is being put up on China. China is still humble there to provide help from other countries. Maybe a lot of people now are aware that Trump is involved on the virus issue, so this could backfire him and I'm afraid that this can now affect Bitcoin too.

This may cause a disappointment to those that expect for a 4 year-cycle and thinks the bull run we have last year is going to get carried on, hopefully bitcoin will remain a hedge against all politics and not disappointing al bitcoiners.

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Quote from: Haunebu on Today at 02:45:27 AM

Heard about it and it's definitely getting exaggerated by the Chinese. A pandemic like COVID is an ultra rare event that probably comes around once every 200 years or even more based on my research.

on the Plus side, No recorded death yet so maybe a normal hmpv and not one made by Man.
I really don't want to imagine the collapse it would cause I'm this shaky economy.
It doesn't hurt to be cautious, countries can try increasing surveillance.

Quote from: Apocollapse on Today at 03:14:01 AM

Personally I don't really care with any similar virus like corona where it's infectious by sneezing/contact with the illness and bad hygiene. It's because my lifestyle now was like lockdown during corona virus, I always wear mask every time I leave my home, bring hand sanitizer and wash my hand using soap.

You should
Because I doubt everyone you know or care about has said lifestyle.
Not to mention the impact it would have on the economy.

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Personally I don't really care with any similar virus like corona where it's infectious by sneezing/contact with the illness and bad hygiene. It's because my lifestyle now was like lockdown during corona virus, I always wear mask every time I leave my home, bring hand sanitizer and wash my hand using soap.

It doesn't mean I will not get this disease, but my lifestyle will prevent infected by this virus.

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Heard about it and it's definitely getting exaggerated by the Chinese. A pandemic like COVID is an ultra rare event that probably comes around once every 200 years or even more based on my research.

This new virus is most probably just one of many new viruses that flare up suddenly and fizzle out just as quickly in my honest opinion.

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Of course, panic occurs because media crews and influencers on social media are actively spreading the news for online notifications so that there will certainly be various responses. I think this is easy to read where it is going. if the action that arises is excessive from the community, it will become the main discussion and the direction of entrepreneurs in the health sector is very profitable with such conditions. What needs to be worried about is if one day a disease comes that when we seek treatment + vaccination, it does not get better and even gets worse.

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Quote from: naira on January 07, 2025, 02:19:40 PM

Based on what I know, you always know the most about conspiracies, right? and it is also enough of a start for me to start it with 2025 where HMPV began to be echoed. There is always something to be suspicious of, especially since the US is again led by Trump, who is not very politically favored by China.

I'm not really interested in conspiracy theories and despite my previous post, it really doesn't matter where these things originate from. Their consequences are more important. For example another pandemic would hurt China due to having a large population and being the "world's factory" needing to produce a lot and be able to ship them abroad.
But it will also hurt USA significantly and specifically Trump's plans. He wishes to bring back production to the US soil and re-start the factories. He also wishes to get out of the recession. Neither of which would be possible if another pandemic is spread.

Quote from: passwordnow on January 07, 2025, 05:56:28 PM

I've read some say that HMPV isn't a new virus and has been there many years ago.

Coronavirus was also not a new virus, it was first found in 1920's.
It's the new variants that are problematic specially when the virus is "mutated" and becomes more damaging to the patient's body like the COVID19 variant was.

It is even more dangerous when there is human intervention in the mutation of the virus... like in a virus that is produced in a lab...

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I've read some say that HMPV isn't a new virus and has been there many years ago. It's crazy that this is on all timing, I remember when covid-19 was at height, there was also another virus that was reported trying to spread somewhere but then it eventually lost the attention of the media.

Here's a quote from the "health experts".

Quote from: https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hmpv-human-metapneumovirus-india-cases-confirmed-symptoms/

"Health experts have clarified that the HMPV is not a new virus; it was first identified in 2001 and it has been circulating in the entire world for many years," Indian Health Minister J. P. Nadda said Monday. "The health systems and surveillance networks of the country are vigilant and there is no reason to worry."

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Quote from: Stepstowealth on January 07, 2025, 04:23:06 PM

Quote from: pooya87 on January 06, 2025, 10:42:40 PM

It is definitely very suspicious specially when you put it together with the US political changes. Last time it was Trump in the office and he was waging an economic war on China. Then COVID19 was created in a lab and patient zero that was in found in the US first was covered up as a normal flu while it locked China up.

Again in 2024, after 4 years Trump is becoming US president again and he is already starting his economic war against the world by focusing on China the most. Now a new pandemic threat is rising once again!

I will not doubt it because there is a lot going on that we are unaware of. I am really just concerned about the situation because in my country the COVID really had a big effect on most of us that we are still in recovery. If there is another pandemic as deadly as COVID, it will cripple our struggling economy. I took the news of COVID at the initial stages as a rumor or not something so serious until it started locking down borders and keeping us indoors. This should be taken seriously, countries should already be proactive to avoid a breakout in their country.

The world is better prepared for any virus that has the same synonyms as COVID-19. The first epidemic took the world by surprise but this one might not have the same global effect. The HMPV has been around since 2001 when it was first discovered in the Netherlands. The presence of this virus has been reported in several countries before now. Maybe it is getting global attention because it is from China where the last pandemic originated from. Donald Trump will downplay this viruses just as he did to COVID.

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Quote from: naira on January 06, 2025, 02:09:33 PM

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Both HMPV and COVID-19 cause respiratory symptoms such as coughing, fever, congestion, and shortness of breath. They also spread through respiratory droplets.

HMPV: Peaks during winter and spring.
COVID-19: Spreads year-round due to evolving variants.
Post-COVID-19 lockdowns, surges in HMPV cases have been observed as populations re-expose themselves to respiratory pathogens.

As the title suggests, China has recently been shocked by the HMPV Virus or the abbreviation for Human Metapneumovirus Virus, where this virus is not much different from diseases that generally attack the respiratory tract such as flu, cough, runny nose, fever, and shortness of breath.

Based on the background of the virus, we may be reminded of Covid 19 which also originated from China. I mean is this another commotion that they are trying to spread to continue to disrupt the world's economic conditions which are just starting to recover. Of course I am a bit skeptical because based on the Corona case, how paralyzed the economy is. The lower middle class is the target, and do you know which sector is the most profitable during Covid 19? hospital medical equipment.

I just want to know your opinion on the HMPV Virus issue, maybe you can share your opinion and also whether in some countries it has become a topic of discussion?

Or is this all just nonsense that China is trying to exaggerate and they themselves will sell their anti-virus.

Your opinion is greatly appreciated

Many people around the world, particularly older generations, are likely to have had this HMPV virus in the past so it is nothing new. However hysteria gets clicks and that drives advertising revenue for news papers so they absolutely love these kind of made up controversies. While I have absolutely zero trust in the Chinese government to report on anything accurately, it is nothing to be alarmed about at the moment and there is no point stressing about these things. A few months ago the newspapers were pushing monkey pox as the latest disaster for humanity and that materialized into absolutely nothing. I guess if you spend all day chasing news, these sort of gloomy doomsday stories really stand out to you.

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Quote from: pooya87 on January 06, 2025, 10:42:40 PM

It is definitely very suspicious specially when you put it together with the US political changes. Last time it was Trump in the office and he was waging an economic war on China. Then COVID19 was created in a lab and patient zero that was in found in the US first was covered up as a normal flu while it locked China up.

Again in 2024, after 4 years Trump is becoming US president again and he is already starting his economic war against the world by focusing on China the most. Now a new pandemic threat is rising once again!

I will not doubt it because there is a lot going on that we are unaware of. I am really just concerned about the situation because in my country the COVID really had a big effect on most of us that we are still in recovery. If there is another pandemic as deadly as COVID, it will cripple our struggling economy. I took the news of COVID at the initial stages as a rumor or not something so serious until it started locking down borders and keeping us indoors. This should be taken seriously, countries should already be proactive to avoid a breakout in their country.

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Quote from: pooya87 on January 06, 2025, 10:42:40 PM

It is definitely very suspicious specially when you put it together with the US political changes. Last time it was Trump in the office and he was waging an economic war on China. Then COVID19 was created in a lab and patient zero that was in found in the US first was covered up as a normal flu while it locked China up.

Again in 2024, after 4 years Trump is becoming US president again and he is already starting his economic war against the world by focusing on China the most. Now a new pandemic threat is rising once again!

This new pandemic may be too early but Corona at that time also spread from an unknown area but spread quickly. China's population is spread all over the country, so the rate of spread can be easy.

Based on what I know, you always know the most about conspiracies, right? and it is also enough of a start for me to start it with 2025 where HMPV began to be echoed. There is always something to be suspicious of, especially since the US is again led by Trump, who is not very politically favored by China.

A new chapter of economic war must begin, and China is trying to light a little fire, just waiting for other igniters in some countries where China can easily bring immigrants. For example in my country there are 10 million people (4% - 5% of the total population).

Quote from: DrBeer on January 07, 2025, 05:58:19 AM

An incident that happened once is a coincidence, repeated a second time in the same place and by the same method is a system.

When it comes from health experts, the general public will easily swallow the information raw. But what if the system that controls the experts is the basic capital to create chaos.

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Given that we already know for sure that COVID-19 did not appear by accident, but “thanks” to Chinese biolaboratories, and given the growing problems of the Chinese economy, as well as the growing pressure on rogue/terrorist countries and their “keepers”, China is probably once again trying to shift the vector of attention to the pandemic, and divert attention from “its own person”. But we will watch the development of the situation....
An incident that happened once is a coincidence, repeated a second time in the same place and by the same method is a system.

PS Very interesting is the age distribution of risks in the risk zone, first of all - elderly people. This is one of the biggest problems in China - aging population and the heavy burden created by pensioners.

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It is definitely very suspicious specially when you put it together with the US political changes. Last time it was Trump in the office and he was waging an economic war on China. Then COVID19 was created in a lab and patient zero that was in found in the US first was covered up as a normal flu while it locked China up.

Again in 2024, after 4 years Trump is becoming US president again and he is already starting his economic war against the world by focusing on China the most. Now a new pandemic threat is rising once again!

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There are lots of deadly virus but I doubt we'll easily see a duplicate of covid just yet. It spread so widely because it had no effect on some people yet they were carriers. There are more deadly viruses known before and after covid so it wont be only one thing that makes it as impactful as covid turned out to be.

Unless there is a large volatile variance in the effects of the virus I wouldnt worry too much just yet, how easily it spreads etc. of course anything air borne is bad enough to warn about.

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I have come across this news somewhere, but didn't pay much attention.
I think this is probably another story to get the world's attention, because we've heard of some speculated cases of new viruses after the COVID incident, which is all coming from that same china. Besides, why must it be China?. Who awards the title for the country with the most number of viruses originated?.

I don't think all countries have fully recovered from covid-19 pandemic even though it is about 4years ago now. And now, there is already speculations of another one. Well, I don't know how severe it is, but I just hope it doesn't cause any damage. China should find ways to manage whatever is coming from their country, because I can't still figure out why something keeps originating from the same place over and over again.

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Quote from: Botnake on January 06, 2025, 04:23:57 PM

Judging by the posts on social media, seems like there's a bit of a panic already.
The COVID-19 situation in the past played a huge role in helping us prepare for situations like this, in case it spreads globally. I believe the impact won’t be as significant as COVID-19 because, back then, the biggest issue was panic, especially since scientists didn’t have a vaccine ready immediately.

Aside from the lack of vaccines, there was also just a lot of uncertainty regarding the virus and so the government did a lot of mistakes when it came to handling the people and their frustrations. They were also unprepared with facilities and equipment which made it a lot difficult to treat patients immediately.

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Now, I’m sure they’ve continued their research to prepare for potential future pandemics and ways to prevent them.
So, let’s trust the experts and have faith in God - everything will be alright.

I think we can be confident that it’s not only the experts that have learned but also the common people. We now know better than to doubt a virus because we have seen its effects and now we will be more careful.

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Quote from: naira on January 06, 2025, 02:09:33 PM

Or is this all just nonsense that China is trying to exaggerate and they themselves will sell their anti-virus.

I want to believe that this is exactly what it is. But we cannot invalidate our feelings as well because of what all of us experienced since 2020 about the covid-19 pandemic.

It seems that this is going to be a 4-5 year cycle trend as well that we get to panic for every epidemic that's reported in China or somewhere else into this world.

Well, people say that it's a simple flu and such. But I don't want to be confident with their words of affirmation, let's just take care of ourselves and if ever we go out, wear masks for protection if ever going into crowded places.

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Judging by the posts on social media, seems like there's a bit of a panic already.
The COVID-19 situation in the past played a huge role in helping us prepare for situations like this, in case it spreads globally. I believe the impact won’t be as significant as COVID-19 because, back then, the biggest issue was panic, especially since scientists didn’t have a vaccine ready immediately.

Now, I’m sure they’ve continued their research to prepare for potential future pandemics and ways to prevent them.
So, let’s trust the experts and have faith in God - everything will be alright.

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