Topic: china making bitcoins for the world (Read 1735 times)
The only thing I got out of this was the guy's daughters wear matching clothes and there is American Eagle in China.
How do I send my IP address using a Bitcoin client?
Patch your client or get an older one: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/IP_Transactions
Oh, yeah. I don't think that's what he's talking about.
So the program is you send BTC 1-3 from your wallet adress with your IP to the adress I set up in program.
How do I send my IP address using a Bitcoin client?
Patch your client or get an older one: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/IP_Transactions
BTCBTCBTCBTCBANZAIIII +1 BTC to my multibit:)))) fast transfers less than 2hours, got lucky today since its 33% but felt like it was 100
so happy right now i went to kiosk bought 10 tickets lottery for eurojackpot 13million hope my luck will lead me on to that! I say if u have additional btc recommend to gamble bejacthes get some adrenaline in your vanes!
so happy right now i went to kiosk bought 10 tickets lottery for eurojackpot 13million hope my luck will lead me on to that! I say if u have additional btc recommend to gamble bejacthes get some adrenaline in your vanes!
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Guys guys, I gambled like 1000 euro when I was in high school on casinos it was my lunch money. I tell this, machine gives u good then u think u can get more so u put more and then machine is programmed to take all from u when u put more.
I played poker/dice/casino shit on websites and real world. In the end = NO PROFIT EVER
especially site casino is biggest tard ever. I was in profit once in poker game , but I couldnt withdraw it for some shitty reason..
Looking to try something new..
I played poker/dice/casino shit on websites and real world. In the end = NO PROFIT EVER
especially site casino is biggest tard ever. I was in profit once in poker game , but I couldnt withdraw it for some shitty reason..
Looking to try something new..
=
Idiot.
So the program is you send BTC 1-3 from your wallet adress with your IP to the adress I set up in program.
How do I send my IP address using a Bitcoin client?
So why is it only 1-3 BTC not 0.001 or something else? This is because to code for 0.0001 is fantastically very hard
No, it isn't. It takes more code to limit the allowable values than to accept arbitrary sized ones.
I even chose to use practically the same code for setting up the preferences for program to count receivers and to send btc back.
This makes no sense. You count the games (if ((++betid) % 3 == 0) but don't "count" deposits. 3 BTC is just 3 BTC. There's no counting involved. This alone screams "scam" to me.
if you send 1 bitcoin if you end up 3rd you get 2 bitcoins for 33.333% and u get them in basically 24- 54h.
So you're taking 3 payments and sending 2 back? That's a house edge of 33% on average, assuming you don't tend to pay back the smallest of the 3 each time, which would give an even bigger edge. Most Bitcoin gambling has a house edge of around 0 to 2%.
Right now 25.11.2013 server is working and is online with adress 1FuCxGK4qppw5SNWp9iZUU8AfiCVTMNGWc to complete all process it will take from 24-54h. Im working on 2nd server now to decrease waiting time for transaction.
Again, this is crazy. How does it take 24 to 54 hours to count to 3 and double a number? If you're waiting for confirmations, then a 2nd server won't help you.
So how I profit from this?
Most likely the 54h is to give lots of people time to deposit before anyone starts shouting "scam!" too loudly. Then you disappear with all the deposits. But even if you do pay out some bets, you're profiting because you're paying out only 2x when fair odds would be 3.33333x.
if all 3 people bid for 1 coin I get nothing
Maybe you've not explained the game properly, but from what you've said if all 3 people send 1 coin, you collect 3 coins, give the 3rd one 2 back, and profit by 1 coin.
if somebody is bidding like 1, 2 , 2 so 3rd guy is getting 4 bitcoins and I make 1 bitcoin.
Right.
If they bet 2, 2, 2 you make 6-4 = 2 coins
If they bet 1, 2, 2, you make 5=4 = 1 coin
If they bet 1, 1, 3, you make 5-6 = -1 coin (a loss of 1 coin)
So if you're fair about which one is the 3rd one, there's a possibility that you might lose sometime. But how do we know what order you received the bets? 1, 1, 3 and 1, 3, 1 look the same to us, but have very different results for you. You need to look into provable fairness and find a way to prove that you're running the game right.
with program is less power needed from server because program does it half of the counting for the server. So lets say you send from internet any bitcoin wallet 1 bitcoin to the server so then server has to find your ip first and then put you into line of 3 people and then count next 2 people but program allows to send your 1 bitcoin already with ip adress that server dont need to scan your ip separately which takes time and I did not put any great code line into server for it to count ip adresses because i dont know any better solutions than the one I did now.
Wow, I don't even. You can't find the IP address from a Bitcoin transaction. You can't "do half the counting" somewhere. You either count or you don't.
I will post the program soon, the program will not need to install only run for ip check.
Oh, I have to run a program on my computer to qualify for this 33% house edge game?
Good luck with that!
I can't work out which of the three angles you're scamming from:
1) 54 hour window allows for operator to collect lots of deposits before running off
2) 33% house edge allows operator to run game as stated and still make out like a bandit
3) Having users download and run executable allows operator to install keylogger and get entire wallet contents
Maybe all 3?
BTCBTCBTCBTCBANZAIIII +1 BTC to my multibit:)))) fast transfers less than 2hours, got lucky today since its 33% but felt like it was 100
so happy right now i went to kiosk bought 10 tickets lottery for eurojackpot 13million hope my luck will lead me on to that! I say if u have additional btc recommend to gamble bejacthes get some adrenaline in your vanes!
so happy right now i went to kiosk bought 10 tickets lottery for eurojackpot 13million hope my luck will lead me on to that! I say if u have additional btc recommend to gamble bejacthes get some adrenaline in your vanes!
ANYWAYS I made this topic to ask your opinion should I play this gamble for 33%? For me this seems very legit I need your OPINION HELP ME?
What?!?
I just spent a load of time explaining to you that Just-Dice offers you way better odds and it's fair for a 33% payout...
TL:DR: No do not play this game! That's my opinion, now you have been helped, stop ignoring my advice.
ANYWAYS I made this topic to ask your opinion should I play this gamble for 33%? For me this seems very legit I need your OPINION HELP ME?
What?!?
I just spent a load of time explaining to you that Just-Dice offers you way better odds and it's fair for a 33% payout...
TL:DR: No do not play this game! That's my opinion, now you have been helped, stop ignoring my advice.
I understand you drop me some code okei but you know how easy is to hide the rest of the code or additional code packages. Like yo 
The only way people trust that site (Just-Dice) is because its possible to verify that code is the code that determines the bet number.
https://just-dice.com/lucky.txt
Quote
function lucky_number(server_seed, client_seed, nonce, betid) {
var hex_chars_to_use = 5;
var nonce_str = nonce.toString();
var hash;
if (betid < 145000000)
hash = crypto.createHmac('sha512', server_seed).update(client_seed + ':' + nonce_str).digest('hex');
else
hash = crypto.createHmac('sha512', nonce_str + ':' + server_seed + ':' + nonce_str).update(nonce_str + ':' + client_seed + ':' + nonce_str).digest('hex');
var len = hash.length;
for (var i = 0; i < len; i += hex_chars_to_use) {
var hex = hash.substring(i, i + hex_chars_to_use);
var lucky = parseInt(hex, 16);
if (lucky < 1000000)
return lucky;
}
// the 26th substring will always be <4096 (3 hex digits), so we won't get here
util.log(0, 'RAN OUT OF HASH! using ' + hash + ' - returning', 0);
return 0;
};
var hex_chars_to_use = 5;
var nonce_str = nonce.toString();
var hash;
if (betid < 145000000)
hash = crypto.createHmac('sha512', server_seed).update(client_seed + ':' + nonce_str).digest('hex');
else
hash = crypto.createHmac('sha512', nonce_str + ':' + server_seed + ':' + nonce_str).update(nonce_str + ':' + client_seed + ':' + nonce_str).digest('hex');
var len = hash.length;
for (var i = 0; i < len; i += hex_chars_to_use) {
var hex = hash.substring(i, i + hex_chars_to_use);
var lucky = parseInt(hex, 16);
if (lucky < 1000000)
return lucky;
}
// the 26th substring will always be <4096 (3 hex digits), so we won't get here
util.log(0, 'RAN OUT OF HASH! using ' + hash + ' - returning', 0);
return 0;
};
Going back to the code I posted.
Quote
hash = crypto.createHmac('sha512', server_seed).update(client_seed + ':' + nonce_str).digest('hex');
The server creates a server seed, basically a string known only to the site owner.
He wants to prove that he is not changing the seed to change your outcome, but at the same time does not want to give you the seed otherwise you can cheat. So he gives you a hash of the seed and you can now hold onto that. Next you are asked to either provide a client seed or one will be generated for you. Each bet has a nonce that iterates every time you bet too.
The server takes the server seed that was generated before you punched in the client seed, and joins them together with the nonce. By doing this the HMAC that determines your roll cannot be pre generated to give bad rolls because you knew the hash of the server seed before giving the client seed, so after the roll you can tell if the server cheated by checking the actual server seed vs the hash you had before.
There is no way for the site to fake anything because you know before you give your info (client seed) that the server has generated a server seed without knowledge of the client seed.
After the roll you can prove the server seed was not tampered with because you can take the information and run that code I quoted yourself to prove its the same function being run.
The HMAC has totally different output based on any change of the input, so the client seed totally generates a new number that the server cannot predict when the server generates its server seed.
If you believe the above process is insecure for the gambler then you are a genius, breaking SHA would make you world famous and probably an overnight millionaire!
I understand you drop me some code okei but you know how easy is to hide the rest of the code or additional code packages. Like yo
The only way people trust that site (Just-Dice) is because its possible to verify that code is the code that determines the bet number.
https://just-dice.com/lucky.txt
Quote
function lucky_number(server_seed, client_seed, nonce, betid) {
var hex_chars_to_use = 5;
var nonce_str = nonce.toString();
var hash;
if (betid < 145000000)
hash = crypto.createHmac('sha512', server_seed).update(client_seed + ':' + nonce_str).digest('hex');
else
hash = crypto.createHmac('sha512', nonce_str + ':' + server_seed + ':' + nonce_str).update(nonce_str + ':' + client_seed + ':' + nonce_str).digest('hex');
var len = hash.length;
for (var i = 0; i < len; i += hex_chars_to_use) {
var hex = hash.substring(i, i + hex_chars_to_use);
var lucky = parseInt(hex, 16);
if (lucky < 1000000)
return lucky;
}
// the 26th substring will always be <4096 (3 hex digits), so we won't get here
util.log(0, 'RAN OUT OF HASH! using ' + hash + ' - returning', 0);
return 0;
};
var hex_chars_to_use = 5;
var nonce_str = nonce.toString();
var hash;
if (betid < 145000000)
hash = crypto.createHmac('sha512', server_seed).update(client_seed + ':' + nonce_str).digest('hex');
else
hash = crypto.createHmac('sha512', nonce_str + ':' + server_seed + ':' + nonce_str).update(nonce_str + ':' + client_seed + ':' + nonce_str).digest('hex');
var len = hash.length;
for (var i = 0; i < len; i += hex_chars_to_use) {
var hex = hash.substring(i, i + hex_chars_to_use);
var lucky = parseInt(hex, 16);
if (lucky < 1000000)
return lucky;
}
// the 26th substring will always be <4096 (3 hex digits), so we won't get here
util.log(0, 'RAN OUT OF HASH! using ' + hash + ' - returning', 0);
return 0;
};
Going back to the code I posted.
Quote
hash = crypto.createHmac('sha512', server_seed).update(client_seed + ':' + nonce_str).digest('hex');
The server creates a server seed, basically a string known only to the site owner.
He wants to prove that he is not changing the seed to change your outcome, but at the same time does not want to give you the seed otherwise you can cheat. So he gives you a hash of the seed and you can now hold onto that. Next you are asked to either provide a client seed or one will be generated for you. Each bet has a nonce that iterates every time you bet too.
The server takes the server seed that was generated before you punched in the client seed, and joins them together with the nonce. By doing this the HMAC that determines your roll cannot be pre generated to give bad rolls because you knew the hash of the server seed before giving the client seed, so after the roll you can tell if the server cheated by checking the actual server seed vs the hash you had before.
There is no way for the site to fake anything because you know before you give your info (client seed) that the server has generated a server seed without knowledge of the client seed.
After the roll you can prove the server seed was not tampered with because you can take the information and run that code I quoted yourself to prove its the same function being run.
The HMAC has totally different output based on any change of the input, so the client seed totally generates a new number that the server cannot predict when the server generates its server seed.
If you believe the above process is insecure for the gambler then you are a genius, breaking SHA would make you world famous and probably an overnight millionaire!
Guys guys, I gambled like 1000 euro when I was in high school on casinos it was my lunch money. I tell this, machine gives u good then u think u can get more so u put more and then machine is programmed to take all from u when u put more.
I played poker/dice/casino shit on websites and real world. In the end = NO PROFIT EVER
especially site casino is biggest tard ever. I was in profit once in poker game , but I couldnt withdraw it for some shitty reason..
Looking to try something new..
I played poker/dice/casino shit on websites and real world. In the end = NO PROFIT EVER
especially site casino is biggest tard ever. I was in profit once in poker game , but I couldnt withdraw it for some shitty reason..
Looking to try something new..
Well I am not going to go on because I get it, you don't want to play online.
I am not sure if you're into crypto/math/programming but if you are then my post should be very clear that there is no programming that "takes it all away from you".
You can read the code, verify the rolls and determine if you are being cheated.
I can understand this all seeming like voodoo if you don't program or don't understand cryptography.
Guys guys, I gambled like 1000 euro when I was in high school on casinos it was my lunch money. I tell this, machine gives u good then u think u can get more so u put more and then machine is programmed to take all from u when u put more.
I played poker/dice/casino shit on websites and real world. In the end = NO PROFIT EVER
especially site casino is biggest tard ever. I was in profit once in poker game , but I couldnt withdraw it for some shitty reason..
Looking to try something new..
I played poker/dice/casino shit on websites and real world. In the end = NO PROFIT EVER
especially site casino is biggest tard ever. I was in profit once in poker game , but I couldnt withdraw it for some shitty reason..
Looking to try something new..
Well I am not going to go on because I get it, you don't want to play online.
I am not sure if you're into crypto/math/programming but if you are then my post should be very clear that there is no programming that "takes it all away from you".
You can read the code, verify the rolls and determine if you are being cheated.
I can understand this all seeming like voodoo if you don't program or don't understand cryptography.
And I dont trust dice since I developed dice myself and the dice developing is fast easy but its shit in use.
Fair enough, never use something you don't trust.
Just to clear a few things up for anyone reading though.
https://just-dice.com/ uses a system called "provably fair". See the algorithm that determines the rolls:
https://just-dice.com/lucky.txt
Quote
function lucky_number(server_seed, client_seed, nonce, betid) {
var hex_chars_to_use = 5;
var nonce_str = nonce.toString();
var hash;
if (betid < 145000000)
hash = crypto.createHmac('sha512', server_seed).update(client_seed + ':' + nonce_str).digest('hex');
else
hash = crypto.createHmac('sha512', nonce_str + ':' + server_seed + ':' + nonce_str).update(nonce_str + ':' + client_seed + ':' + nonce_str).digest('hex');
var len = hash.length;
for (var i = 0; i < len; i += hex_chars_to_use) {
var hex = hash.substring(i, i + hex_chars_to_use);
var lucky = parseInt(hex, 16);
if (lucky < 1000000)
return lucky;
}
// the 26th substring will always be <4096 (3 hex digits), so we won't get here
util.log(0, 'RAN OUT OF HASH! using ' + hash + ' - returning', 0);
return 0;
};
var hex_chars_to_use = 5;
var nonce_str = nonce.toString();
var hash;
if (betid < 145000000)
hash = crypto.createHmac('sha512', server_seed).update(client_seed + ':' + nonce_str).digest('hex');
else
hash = crypto.createHmac('sha512', nonce_str + ':' + server_seed + ':' + nonce_str).update(nonce_str + ':' + client_seed + ':' + nonce_str).digest('hex');
var len = hash.length;
for (var i = 0; i < len; i += hex_chars_to_use) {
var hex = hash.substring(i, i + hex_chars_to_use);
var lucky = parseInt(hex, 16);
if (lucky < 1000000)
return lucky;
}
// the 26th substring will always be <4096 (3 hex digits), so we won't get here
util.log(0, 'RAN OUT OF HASH! using ' + hash + ' - returning', 0);
return 0;
};
Basically the site is using a cryptographic hash function to determine the roll number. The client can see the hash of the server seed and add their own seed to make the final seed, after the roll they can determine that the roll was fair because the server seed is revealed to the user.
Check it out, the function is fair beyond any doubt.
(It is 100% fair for gamblers, but trust is required for the investors)
Guys guys, I gambled like 1000 euro when I was in high school on casinos it was my lunch money. I tell this, machine gives u good then u think u can get more so u put more and then machine is programmed to take all from u when u put more.
I played poker/dice/casino shit on websites and real world. In the end = NO PROFIT EVER
especially site casino is biggest tard ever. I was in profit once in poker game , but I couldnt withdraw it for some shitty reason..
Looking to try something new..
And I dont trust dice since I developed dice myself and the dice developing is fast easy but its shit in use.
Fair enough, never use something you don't trust.
Just to clear a few things up for anyone reading though.
https://just-dice.com/ uses a system called "provably fair". See the algorithm that determines the rolls:
https://just-dice.com/lucky.txt
Quote
function lucky_number(server_seed, client_seed, nonce, betid) {
var hex_chars_to_use = 5;
var nonce_str = nonce.toString();
var hash;
if (betid < 145000000)
hash = crypto.createHmac('sha512', server_seed).update(client_seed + ':' + nonce_str).digest('hex');
else
hash = crypto.createHmac('sha512', nonce_str + ':' + server_seed + ':' + nonce_str).update(nonce_str + ':' + client_seed + ':' + nonce_str).digest('hex');
var len = hash.length;
for (var i = 0; i < len; i += hex_chars_to_use) {
var hex = hash.substring(i, i + hex_chars_to_use);
var lucky = parseInt(hex, 16);
if (lucky < 1000000)
return lucky;
}
// the 26th substring will always be <4096 (3 hex digits), so we won't get here
util.log(0, 'RAN OUT OF HASH! using ' + hash + ' - returning', 0);
return 0;
};
var hex_chars_to_use = 5;
var nonce_str = nonce.toString();
var hash;
if (betid < 145000000)
hash = crypto.createHmac('sha512', server_seed).update(client_seed + ':' + nonce_str).digest('hex');
else
hash = crypto.createHmac('sha512', nonce_str + ':' + server_seed + ':' + nonce_str).update(nonce_str + ':' + client_seed + ':' + nonce_str).digest('hex');
var len = hash.length;
for (var i = 0; i < len; i += hex_chars_to_use) {
var hex = hash.substring(i, i + hex_chars_to_use);
var lucky = parseInt(hex, 16);
if (lucky < 1000000)
return lucky;
}
// the 26th substring will always be <4096 (3 hex digits), so we won't get here
util.log(0, 'RAN OUT OF HASH! using ' + hash + ' - returning', 0);
return 0;
};
Basically the site is using a cryptographic hash function to determine the roll number. The client can see the hash of the server seed and add their own seed to make the final seed, after the roll they can determine that the roll was fair because the server seed is revealed to the user.
Check it out, the function is fair beyond any doubt.
(It is 100% fair for gamblers, but trust is required for the investors)
This is very interesting. Is that storm the tyhpoon haiyan that hit the philippines?
I believe this was the last storm which happened somewhere in vietnam and then all news in all countries broadcast it. U think is good to try this method for bitcoin?
This is very interesting. Is that storm the tyhpoon haiyan that hit the philippines?
noo this is not my post, I found it on net and just repost lol
I found this on some chinese website from twitter
it had freakin many comments in chinese or whatever language they speak there was also english version
Im thinking o try this with 1 btc but I donno know yet thought u guys would say some opinions
I found this on some chinese website from twitter
it had freakin many comments in chinese or whatever language they speak there was also english version
Im thinking o try this with 1 btc but I donno know yet thought u guys would say some opinions
Opinions on betting? See my post above please.
Just-Dice has far better odds.
So I made a dice game with gamesalad and I can tell that dice games you should not trust especially when we are talking freakin bitcoins here. So my dice game was a casino style like a 21 blackjack. Roll dice collect 21 u win or lose if over 21. I tested game and other people played it. Even numbers were set to come up totally random, many many many times numbers came up same and same and it was like a bug or something, point was people lost lots of cash. And I dont trust dice since I developed dice myself and the dice developing is fast easy but its shit in use. I lost myself lots of stuff and attitude for that damn dice game..
PS am talking about computer dices
dice real world much better:P
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