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September 18, 2017, 04:04:49 AM
#36

To decrease the spams and illegal projects to be undertaken by the merchants and end users obviously. That's the main reason why china is banning ICO in first place and then now it's going to regulate the BTC. The main reason for btc ban should be the same as not to get scammed and illegal projects development. They might be thinking that this creates the problem with nation economy as people are putting big money into crypto world.

China has incredibly strict fiscal controls on its citizens. Bitcoin allowed them to circumvent those controls. It's not about money laundering, it's about fiscal control. China wants all the control.

That's my feeling as well. Capital flight was always a concern for the Chinese government in the context of Bitcoin, but until recently, the markets were small enough that they didn't feel the need to take action. The proliferation of so many large ICOs so quickly probably sped things along.

It seems crazy to think that they could actually prevent their citizens from obtaining and using cryptocurrencies. But with the recent moves to crack down on VPN usage, it seems like they really think they can control how Chinese people use the internet (and internet money).
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September 17, 2017, 11:15:22 PM
#35
Can someone explain to me why china is trying to ban bitcoin.?

Thanks for your replies. Smiley

China can't ban bitcoin easily. It is not easy work for China that suddenly ban it. But China has a control of it. That's why we can't say any perfect predict about ban the bitcoin or not. But i wish and i want to see bitcoin in my old age. Now if you want the right answer then left all things on the time, time will give you the right answer.
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September 17, 2017, 11:12:15 PM
#34

To decrease the spams and illegal projects to be undertaken by the merchants and end users obviously. That's the main reason why china is banning ICO in first place and then now it's going to regulate the BTC. The main reason for btc ban should be the same as not to get scammed and illegal projects development. They might be thinking that this creates the problem with nation economy as people are putting big money into crypto world.




China has incredibly strict fiscal controls on its citizens. Bitcoin allowed them to circumvent those controls. It's not about money laundering, it's about fiscal control. China wants all the control.
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September 17, 2017, 10:59:28 PM
#33

To decrease the spams and illegal projects to be undertaken by the merchants and end users obviously. That's the main reason why china is banning ICO in first place and then now it's going to regulate the BTC. The main reason for btc ban should be the same as not to get scammed and illegal projects development. They might be thinking that this creates the problem with nation economy as people are putting big money into crypto world.

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September 17, 2017, 10:43:19 PM
#32
China can not ban bitcoin networks, can not ban anyway just trying to close stock exchanges, this bans storm will be one step beyond mining ban, nothing to fear.
legendary
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September 17, 2017, 10:40:48 PM
#31
Simple, china always try to ban others product and make copies of them to increase their GDP with low cost.
They baned bitcoin because they may be producing its duplicate and in few months they bring their own cryptography to market

Nope. They are not going to do that. Because they know that any crypto-currency which is backed by the government is not going to get a foothold in the markets and the exchanges. However, I can imagine a scenario in which the Chinese discourage the usage of Bitcoin, in order to pump the Bitcoin Cash (many of the BCH supporters such as Jihan Wu are Chinese).
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September 17, 2017, 10:34:33 PM
#30
First, as a Chinese, I need to tell there are limited channels for individuals to invest in China currently. We used to invest in stocks market, finance products and real estate. These are three major channels Chinese people invest their money.

However, stock market in China is worse than ever, only few people can benefits from it and rest of them are losting money. Meanwhile, finance products keeps a low interest rate.  Only real estate in major cities like Beijing keeps a good ROI, but the cost of investment and recent policies on purchasing real easte prevent most people to participate.

For these reasons, Chinese are keep their eyes on any new oppotunities to invest and ICO gives the chance. The high ROI and quick cash back period are over attractive even the risk is clear (fraud, scam). There is a trend that money are flow into crptocurrency market, which is ingnored by Chinese goverment previously. Lack of regulation in this market is the cause of the ban, especailly one party runs the country in China. Chinese goverment will not allowed uncontrolled financial instruments like bitcoin affect their economy even just a potential risk.

So ICO or crptocurrency is ok only under goverment control. The ideology of decentralized may not welcomed in China.
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September 17, 2017, 08:59:36 PM
#29
Simple, china always try to ban others product and make copies of them to increase their GDP with low cost.
They baned bitcoin because they may be producing its duplicate and in few months they bring their own cryptography to market
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September 17, 2017, 07:10:14 PM
#28
In my opinion, China forbids Bitcoin just to control the price of Bitcoin. Because we know China has about 20% of all Bitcoin supplies.
and I got the news that the news is a hoax.
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September 17, 2017, 07:06:59 PM
#27
Can someone explain to me why china is trying to ban bitcoin.?

Thanks for your replies. Smiley
China is trying to close all the exchangers from around the world so they can build their own and make profit with it. Why would China destroy Bitcoin if they can make huge profit from it. They banned ICO's , they banned exchangers for what? To scare people from around the world to also close their exchangers . It is just a plan of China. I think they are trying to copy Bitcoin
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September 17, 2017, 07:04:15 PM
#26
I will not call what is happening a tire on Bitcoin. What the Chinese government is doing is to shutdown ICOs ICOs in order to take a sustainable approach that will prevent possible losses by investors in ICOs. So the government is actually trying to regulate their crypto economy, this is the news that is affecting Bitcoin as there is uncertainty with the so called regulation we do not have to follow the panic casual!!
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September 17, 2017, 06:50:31 PM
#25
Can someone explain to me why china is trying to ban bitcoin.?

Thanks for your replies. Smiley


you should look for news or try with google search. but this is the least I know. the problem of Chinese ban is the number of potentially deceptive and problematic ico. so they forbid bitcoin and ico. I read the news from online media.
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September 17, 2017, 06:46:59 PM
#24
There are news on the internet and you can google it if you want a specific information about it. But for giving you a short info, bitcoin is not trying to ban bitcoin. It is not literally they are banning bitcoin but it's like the message they want to send to the crypto people there is they want to regulate the transactions of bitcoin and other alt coins, so they banned exchanges and ICO's.

I hope that the domestic exchange and ICO ban is all that will happen. There have even been suggestions that these bans are temporary, and that the government will institute a licensing regime for them.

However, there is some scary FUD floating around that would be much worse:

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(Unverified) report that China is trying to block bitcoin exchanges and p2p network in China by GFW @cnLedger
https://twitter.com/btcdrak/status/908998917995552776

They can't really block access to the Bitcoin network anymore than they can block access to Google. That is to say, average citizens can probably circumvent it. But if true, this could provide another major round of FUD that could rock the markets.
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September 17, 2017, 06:18:53 PM
#23
what China did was close down illegal businesses working in form of exchanges that were also laundering money and did not have any kind of license for operating.

It may go deeper than that. There is speculation now around a leaked report that China might be trying to restrict access not only to overseas Bitcoin exchanges, but to the Bitcoin (and other) blockchains via the GFW. See here: https://twitter.com/btcdrak/status/908998917995552776

Samson Mow‏ says the report is likely to be true: https://twitter.com/Excellion/status/909000668345757697

In practice, they can't really block the P2P network. It's impossible for them to block every bridge over the GFW simultaneously. But it sounds like they want to block access to blockchains the same way the do with Google. And maybe it's all FUD, but it certainly fits with their known plans to issue a Tether-like blockchain currency tied to the Bank of China.
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September 17, 2017, 06:06:37 PM
#22
this is the second time i heard and read some news that China is banning again the Bitcoin, Bitcoin is unstoppable and so are the people who supports bitcoin are stoppable. The reality is China didn't ban it, but they are regulating and anyone caught who are not government policy complaint, Chinese authority will shutdown their Bitcoin related operation like mining and exchanges else everything must go. If you can't stop them, join them, we all know that government want some a little bit every piece of you. For sustainability and survival, let's just ride on and it is still a win-win situation.
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September 17, 2017, 05:59:35 PM
#21
Can someone explain to me why china is trying to ban bitcoin.?

Thanks for your replies. Smiley

There are news on the internet and you can google it if you want a specific information about it. But for giving you a short info, bitcoin is not trying to ban bitcoin. It is not literally they are banning bitcoin but it's like the message they want to send to the crypto people there is they want to regulate the transactions of bitcoin and other alt coins, so they banned exchanges and ICO's.
legendary
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September 17, 2017, 05:55:55 PM
#20
Can someone explain to me why china is trying to ban bitcoin.?

Thanks for your replies. Smiley
I don't think that they're trying to ban bitcoin at this point, seems like they want to stop ICOs, which I am essentially in agreement with in the context of how most ICOs end up turning out. They typically just act as funding for the devs and then as a speculative token which is forgotten about in a week for the coin, so most of them shouldn't really exist to be honest. I'm fine with releasing a coin on an exchange or whatever, but pre-selling tokens is stupid.
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September 17, 2017, 05:51:52 PM
#19
china is not banning btc ! will it ban in the future ? who knows..

but china is not banning or trying to ban bitcoin now
sr. member
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September 17, 2017, 05:49:24 PM
#18
China is not banning bitcoin.

Wrong.  China is banning Bitcoin.  They are launching a full war on Bitcoin.  Stopping the ICOs and closing the exchanges is in effect 'banning Bitcoin'.  

not even close
legendary
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September 17, 2017, 05:39:56 PM
#17
Can someone explain to me why china is trying to ban bitcoin.?

Try to do some more research about this latest news. China is not banning bitcoin, nor does the country ban altcoins for that matter. China is banning ICOs. Perhaps some regulations will take place about ICOs. Crypto exchanges are also being treated with very strict measures, even closing some.

Yes, some of the exchanges are perpetuating money laundering and the government wants to get strict on the ICO's and if possible the exchanges with whom these illegal moneys are converted into the Chinese yuan and vice versa.

Yes this is what I believe like many others. China is trying to clampdown
on the money laundering and general scamming with OCO's and the exchanges
which facilitate this which is mostly all of them whether they are aware
of a particular scam ICO or not.

The exchanges will have to apply for a licence.

https://twitter.com/TradingWhaIe/status/908607956010389506
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