Topic: Chinese official numbers are they truly trustworthy? - page 2. (Read 330 times)

countries were not invented in the era of the 1970's+

people actually can grow their own local veg of food groups that a re suitable for that area, and eat them

its the abundance of choice people want that makes people in the UK for instance want to get thai dragon fruit.
thai dragon fruit and asparagus is not a basic/crutial dietary need for brits. its a luxury/lifestyle food.

the issue is not need but ability and choice of variety.
if people want a car. UK can create all the cars needed. but some dont want just a basic car, some want styleish cars. some want glamourous cars.

functionally countries can survive on their own.
The UK can and right now proving they can make their own ventilators when the NEED arises.

the problem is that being able to get it elsewhere makes it less of a NEED to be self sustainable

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we are not reliant on other countries. so we are not slave to china. but luxury consumerism just makes people want things from different places.. its a 'want' not an 'need' problem

dependency and political power, a societiey that isn't open can use its exporting and manufacturing capabilities to enslave everyone else

food does not catch corona. there was no reason to stop delivering food around the world
you will still get your coconut oil from brazil. your oranges from florida. and your other veg from all over the place..

trying to make corona into a reason to stop getting food from china is stupid.

yes for 100 years it has always been best to 'buy local'
and with LED greenhouse farming. places that dont have good climates can start growing things not meant for their climate. so yes in years to decades things can change

but the 'food source' debate is not a corona debate

i checked in my supermarket obviously china is exporting masses of food abroad especially also aspargus

https://netzfrauen.org/2017/04/04/mogelpackung-herkunft/

this is actually very bad for europe as it is losing selfsufficiency raw food ingredients should be produced locally only served and exotic food (luxury) should be allowed to ship.

first of all
china done many things different to the rest of the world

3 weeks after patient zero. they informed the world. and that month they worked on making extra hospital bed capacity and such.
when they had a case, they followed up to find everyone that person came into contact with and immediately self isolate them, no matter if they had symptoms or not. and checked on them daily to make sure they were following through

during this month they also got people to socially distance and isolate if mildly symptomatic. and followed through finding contacts of those symptomatic. then self isolating of everyone

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however this self isolating is not the end of the local thing for china. because 99% who self isolated are YET to get it.
infact china are today reporting signs of their second wave..
(chinas first wave was calm before the storm)
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other countries knew about it in january. but were still asking people to travel home from china to their home countries like italy, uk, us etc, even as late as march.
UK/US during march only started expanding beds and making more ventilator saying weeks more before what they believe is optimum capacity of resources to be prepared. (emphasis to be prepared. not to be over it)

UK/US did not follow up to try locating those who might have come into contact with those with corona.

but with all that said. the whole 'curbing the spike' self isolation first wave is not designed to end the virus spread completely. its purely to reduce numbers in one go.
its obvious china done good on their first wave.. but this is not the only wave.
yet more is to come.

china has some strange numbers regarding chorona epedemic that make it doubtable weather china is able to really be that successful as they pretend,

also in other fields china gives out strange numbers like for example the human intensive farming of Asparagus

according to my german wikipedia site china produces 87.6% of the worlds aspargus, https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gem%C3%BCsespargel

with 1.3 billion people,

germany produces just 133.020 tones of it with 83 million people economy, while china produces 7.982.230 tones

china has 15 times more people than germany, but produces 60 times more asparus per person than germany, and that although germany is farming quite a lot of aspargus.

what is happening with all the aspargus produced in china, are they exporting it worldwide? or does it get wasted or is the number a lie in the first place?

are chinese official numbers actually trustworthy?

regards