What a joke, 15,000 arrested and the company that ripped me and hundreds if not thousands of customers off via "online fraud" is still in business? What are these Chinamen smoking? Black Arrow LTD is run by criminals convicted of internet fraud in Romania and they and their network of criminal buddies are continued to be allowed to operate their company within the PRC? They make credit card skimmers for god's sake!
We have a word for this in the west, it's called a farce.
真是笑话15000逮捕并扯下我和数百如果公司没有成千上万的客户通过“网上诈骗”关仍处于公司吗？什么是这些中国佬吸烟？黑箭有限公司是由罪犯在罗马尼亚被定罪的互联网欺诈运行，他们和刑事哥们其网络继续被允许在中国境内经营的公司？他们使信用卡撇油器在上帝的份上！
我们有这个词在西方，它被称为是一场闹剧。
Topic: Chinese police arrest 15,000 for Internet crimes (Read 1764 times)
15,000 this is the same society that was just awarded the Winter Olympics? I would think that there are many in the 15,000 that have nothing to do with cyber crime.
No problem. Will be trained and will be used after to hacker the data of various countries in interest of the Government of China. Especially about data regarding United States of America. It is not the first time that do such things....
In such closed societies with a one-party political dictatorship, the greatest danger is the truth and information, and the Internet is the ideal means for free communication and spreading the truth.
China has major economic freedom and the free market but will never allow political freedom and democratic elections.
The question is how much the young people in China are aware of the reality in which they live and how much they are prepared to fight for change and true freedom.
The state can control the media and the Internet but can't control the minds and consciousness of its citizens.
China has major economic freedom and the free market but will never allow political freedom and democratic elections.
The question is how much the young people in China are aware of the reality in which they live and how much they are prepared to fight for change and true freedom.
The state can control the media and the Internet but can't control the minds and consciousness of its citizens.
The problem is that a transition to democracy will not happen in a peaceful way, a civil war will be needed, So the question is, Are they willing to go trough? I think that they won't. As long as there is economic prosperity people will not risk it. Which is one of the reasons China cares mostly about jobs.
but also posts by citizens about current events that are considered "rumor-mongering" because they offer an alternative view of events"
After the Tianjin explosions caused the deaths of hundreds of people in North-eastern China, there was a flood of posts about it in the social media. Some of these posts claimed that more than a thousand civilians were killed in the explosions. This content was removed within a few minutes after they were posted.
The vast majority of the people were arrested for various blackhat scams such as stealing of credit card information, blackmail.etc. I agree that the internet censorship and surveillance is severe in China. But in "Free" countries such as the United States and the United Kingdom, the situation is not much better than that in China.
or not, see the article:
"But China is also deleting content that the government deems offensive and "harmful," including pornography and gambling, but also posts by citizens about current events that are considered "rumor-mongering" because they offer an alternative view of events"
no independent source can verify if the majority were indeed black hats or not
China makes our computer/Internet electronics for us. Do you think Microsoft is the one pushing China into controlling the Internet over there for some reason?
The people of Russia back at the fall into communism were in favor of the people of the United States. It is only after the American people started to turn against the Russian people that the people over there stopped liking Americans. Do you think it is similar with China?
Assange and Snowden have shown us that we in the lands of the free are a lot less free than we think we are. How much slavery is built right into our electronics by the people of China who are doing the work of building the electronics for us?
The people of Russia back at the fall into communism were in favor of the people of the United States. It is only after the American people started to turn against the Russian people that the people over there stopped liking Americans. Do you think it is similar with China?
Assange and Snowden have shown us that we in the lands of the free are a lot less free than we think we are. How much slavery is built right into our electronics by the people of China who are doing the work of building the electronics for us?
Ubuntu Kylin for China
Ubuntu Kylin is an official flavour of Ubuntu. It is a free PC operating system created for China and complies with the Chinese Government procurement regulations. It includes all the features you’ve come to expect from Ubuntu, alongside essential Chinese software and apps. The interface has been designed specifically to put Chinese users first — and with new support for touch screens and HiDPI monitors, it runs beautifully on all kinds of hardware.
http://www.ubuntu.com/desktop/ubuntu-kylin
http://www.businessinsider.com/china-wants-to-replace-microsoft-apple-and-android-software-by-october-2014-8
The vast majority of the people were arrested for various blackhat scams such as stealing of credit card information, blackmail.etc. I agree that the internet censorship and surveillance is severe in China. But in "Free" countries such as the United States and the United Kingdom, the situation is not much better than that in China.
China makes our computer/Internet electronics for us. Do you think Microsoft is the one pushing China into controlling the Internet over there for some reason?
The people of Russia back at the fall into communism were in favor of the people of the United States. It is only after the American people started to turn against the Russian people that the people over there stopped liking Americans. Do you think it is similar with China?
Assange and Snowden have shown us that we in the lands of the free are a lot less free than we think we are. How much slavery is built right into our electronics by the people of China who are doing the work of building the electronics for us?
The people of Russia back at the fall into communism were in favor of the people of the United States. It is only after the American people started to turn against the Russian people that the people over there stopped liking Americans. Do you think it is similar with China?
Assange and Snowden have shown us that we in the lands of the free are a lot less free than we think we are. How much slavery is built right into our electronics by the people of China who are doing the work of building the electronics for us?
body can be jailed but spirit not, fish can not understand flying freedom of bird.
Probably you never seen a really tough jail, my naive and idealist friend
. Thanks to God I've missed those places, but I know a few people who spent years in some or the tougher POW camps in Siberia. There the guards used to start with destroying the spirit and leaving nothing but the reality of flash, fear and hunger. 
China Holds More Than 15,000 For Alleged Cyber Crime: Police
2015-08-19
Chinese police have arrested more than 15,000 people to date for cyber crimes, including hacking and fraud, while activists said the crackdown is also linked to the ruling Chinese Communist Party's ongoing war on online public opinion.
"More than 15,000 criminal suspects were detained in investigations of more than 7,400 Internet crimes by police departments and agencies," the country's ministry of public security said in a statement on its website.
Those detained were suspected of "harming national security online" or "infringing the legitimate rights and interests of the general public," it said.
It listed hacking attacks, cyber fraud and the promotion of online gambling among the crimes under investigation.
In a case in the eastern province of Jiangsu, seven people were arrested after hackers took control of a company website, filling the pages with online gambling content, the ministry said.
The suspects were later found to have hacked into more than 2,000 websites.
But China is also deleting content that the government deems offensive and "harmful," including pornography and gambling, but also posts by citizens about current events that are considered "rumor-mongering" because they offer an alternative view of events.
Pan Lu, deputy director of the nascent China Human Rights Monitor group, said the crackdown on so-called cyber crime is linked to the nationwide "stability maintenance" system run by police.
"The police ... are the main force behind stability maintenance, because China is a police state," Pan said. "Their aim is to maintain their time control on public opinion, to support the party and state-run media and to ensure that the lies put out by the system can continue."
"They can't tolerate dissent, and they are sowing terror online, to the extent that ... citizens like us aren't able to make their voices heard," she said.
"They don't want to hear any critical or interfering voices online when they are dealing with thorny crises."
Clamp down on reporting
In recent days, China has clamped down on reporting of last week's devastating Tianjin chemical warehouse explosions, ordering state-run media to stick to officially approved news stories, deleting tweets, and shuttering social media accounts deemed to be "spreading rumors" about the Tianjin explosions.
Veteran Hebei-based reporter Zhu Xinxin said the definition of what constitutes an "Internet crime" remains very wide in China.
"For example, if you commit financial fraud using the Internet, it's understandable that this would be considered a cyber crime," Zhu said.
"Of course, there are political implications with these so-called cyber crimes, and the Chinese Communist Party uses Internet crime as a pretext to purge freedom of speech online," he said.
"[This could include] expressions of dissatisfaction with the government or current issues, speaking the truth about actual events, disasters or emergencies, or exposing official corruption," Zhu added.
"All of these things can lead to an arrest in the name of cyber crime, which constitutes a violation of human rights, and an attack of freedom of speech."
Further tightening
Earlier this month, Beijing announced it would further tighten its grip on the nation's 650 million netizens with the stationing of specialist police officers in major Internet companies.
Hacker attacks, "violent terrorist information," fraud and data theft, pornography and gambling are mushrooming online, posing a serious threat to social stability and national security, and police should "play a dominant role" in the management of online security, according to the ministry.
Meanwhile, a draft cybersecurity law published by the National People's Congress (NPC) looks set to formalize and extend government controls over the Chinese Internet.
The draft law aims to "ensure network security, [and] safeguard the sovereignty of cyberspace and national security," according to the NPC’s official website, and will ensure Chinese Internet users aren’t allowed to "disturb the social order, [and] harm the public interest.
Rights groups say this could lead to further tightening of the existing set of blocks, filters and human censorship known collectively as the Great Firewall, while officials say they are also setting out to protect Chinese infrastructure from cyberattacks and the privacy of citizens’ data.
Reported by Xin Lin for RFA's Mandarin Service. Translated and written in English by Luisetta Mudie.
Don't forget to include the original link.
http://www.rfa.org/english/news/china/china-holds-more-than-15000-for-alleged-cyber-crime-police-08192015102607.html
China Holds More Than 15,000 For Alleged Cyber Crime: Police
2015-08-19
Chinese police have arrested more than 15,000 people to date for cyber crimes, including hacking and fraud, while activists said the crackdown is also linked to the ruling Chinese Communist Party's ongoing war on online public opinion.
"More than 15,000 criminal suspects were detained in investigations of more than 7,400 Internet crimes by police departments and agencies," the country's ministry of public security said in a statement on its website.
Those detained were suspected of "harming national security online" or "infringing the legitimate rights and interests of the general public," it said.
It listed hacking attacks, cyber fraud and the promotion of online gambling among the crimes under investigation.
In a case in the eastern province of Jiangsu, seven people were arrested after hackers took control of a company website, filling the pages with online gambling content, the ministry said.
The suspects were later found to have hacked into more than 2,000 websites.
But China is also deleting content that the government deems offensive and "harmful," including pornography and gambling, but also posts by citizens about current events that are considered "rumor-mongering" because they offer an alternative view of events.
Pan Lu, deputy director of the nascent China Human Rights Monitor group, said the crackdown on so-called cyber crime is linked to the nationwide "stability maintenance" system run by police.
"The police ... are the main force behind stability maintenance, because China is a police state," Pan said. "Their aim is to maintain their time control on public opinion, to support the party and state-run media and to ensure that the lies put out by the system can continue."
"They can't tolerate dissent, and they are sowing terror online, to the extent that ... citizens like us aren't able to make their voices heard," she said.
"They don't want to hear any critical or interfering voices online when they are dealing with thorny crises."
Clamp down on reporting
In recent days, China has clamped down on reporting of last week's devastating Tianjin chemical warehouse explosions, ordering state-run media to stick to officially approved news stories, deleting tweets, and shuttering social media accounts deemed to be "spreading rumors" about the Tianjin explosions.
Veteran Hebei-based reporter Zhu Xinxin said the definition of what constitutes an "Internet crime" remains very wide in China.
"For example, if you commit financial fraud using the Internet, it's understandable that this would be considered a cyber crime," Zhu said.
"Of course, there are political implications with these so-called cyber crimes, and the Chinese Communist Party uses Internet crime as a pretext to purge freedom of speech online," he said.
"[This could include] expressions of dissatisfaction with the government or current issues, speaking the truth about actual events, disasters or emergencies, or exposing official corruption," Zhu added.
"All of these things can lead to an arrest in the name of cyber crime, which constitutes a violation of human rights, and an attack of freedom of speech."
Further tightening
Earlier this month, Beijing announced it would further tighten its grip on the nation's 650 million netizens with the stationing of specialist police officers in major Internet companies.
Hacker attacks, "violent terrorist information," fraud and data theft, pornography and gambling are mushrooming online, posing a serious threat to social stability and national security, and police should "play a dominant role" in the management of online security, according to the ministry.
Meanwhile, a draft cybersecurity law published by the National People's Congress (NPC) looks set to formalize and extend government controls over the Chinese Internet.
The draft law aims to "ensure network security, [and] safeguard the sovereignty of cyberspace and national security," according to the NPC’s official website, and will ensure Chinese Internet users aren’t allowed to "disturb the social order, [and] harm the public interest.
Rights groups say this could lead to further tightening of the existing set of blocks, filters and human censorship known collectively as the Great Firewall, while officials say they are also setting out to protect Chinese infrastructure from cyberattacks and the privacy of citizens’ data.
Reported by Xin Lin for RFA's Mandarin Service. Translated and written in English by Luisetta Mudie.
Don't forget to include the original link.
China Holds More Than 15,000 For Alleged Cyber Crime: Police
2015-08-19
Chinese police have arrested more than 15,000 people to date for cyber crimes, including hacking and fraud, while activists said the crackdown is also linked to the ruling Chinese Communist Party's ongoing war on online public opinion.
"More than 15,000 criminal suspects were detained in investigations of more than 7,400 Internet crimes by police departments and agencies," the country's ministry of public security said in a statement on its website.
Those detained were suspected of "harming national security online" or "infringing the legitimate rights and interests of the general public," it said.
It listed hacking attacks, cyber fraud and the promotion of online gambling among the crimes under investigation.
In a case in the eastern province of Jiangsu, seven people were arrested after hackers took control of a company website, filling the pages with online gambling content, the ministry said.
The suspects were later found to have hacked into more than 2,000 websites.
But China is also deleting content that the government deems offensive and "harmful," including pornography and gambling, but also posts by citizens about current events that are considered "rumor-mongering" because they offer an alternative view of events.
Pan Lu, deputy director of the nascent China Human Rights Monitor group, said the crackdown on so-called cyber crime is linked to the nationwide "stability maintenance" system run by police.
"The police ... are the main force behind stability maintenance, because China is a police state," Pan said. "Their aim is to maintain their time control on public opinion, to support the party and state-run media and to ensure that the lies put out by the system can continue."
"They can't tolerate dissent, and they are sowing terror online, to the extent that ... citizens like us aren't able to make their voices heard," she said.
"They don't want to hear any critical or interfering voices online when they are dealing with thorny crises."
Clamp down on reporting
In recent days, China has clamped down on reporting of last week's devastating Tianjin chemical warehouse explosions, ordering state-run media to stick to officially approved news stories, deleting tweets, and shuttering social media accounts deemed to be "spreading rumors" about the Tianjin explosions.
Veteran Hebei-based reporter Zhu Xinxin said the definition of what constitutes an "Internet crime" remains very wide in China.
"For example, if you commit financial fraud using the Internet, it's understandable that this would be considered a cyber crime," Zhu said.
"Of course, there are political implications with these so-called cyber crimes, and the Chinese Communist Party uses Internet crime as a pretext to purge freedom of speech online," he said.
"[This could include] expressions of dissatisfaction with the government or current issues, speaking the truth about actual events, disasters or emergencies, or exposing official corruption," Zhu added.
"All of these things can lead to an arrest in the name of cyber crime, which constitutes a violation of human rights, and an attack of freedom of speech."
Further tightening
Earlier this month, Beijing announced it would further tighten its grip on the nation's 650 million netizens with the stationing of specialist police officers in major Internet companies.
Hacker attacks, "violent terrorist information," fraud and data theft, pornography and gambling are mushrooming online, posing a serious threat to social stability and national security, and police should "play a dominant role" in the management of online security, according to the ministry.
Meanwhile, a draft cybersecurity law published by the National People's Congress (NPC) looks set to formalize and extend government controls over the Chinese Internet.
The draft law aims to "ensure network security, [and] safeguard the sovereignty of cyberspace and national security," according to the NPC’s official website, and will ensure Chinese Internet users aren’t allowed to "disturb the social order, [and] harm the public interest.
Rights groups say this could lead to further tightening of the existing set of blocks, filters and human censorship known collectively as the Great Firewall, while officials say they are also setting out to protect Chinese infrastructure from cyberattacks and the privacy of citizens’ data.
Reported by Xin Lin for RFA's Mandarin Service. Translated and written in English by Luisetta Mudie.
The state can control the media and the Internet but can't control the minds and consciousness of its citizens.
Wrong. Mind can be, and used to be controlled. Here in the west by the mass media and social justice warrior groups, in China by the mass media and the police. Actually if the punishment is swift and deterrent enough most people going to control their own minds, and the rest will be useful for reminding the majority what will happen if they stop doing so.
body can be jailed but spirit not, fish can not understand flying freedom of bird.
The state can control the media and the Internet but can't control the minds and consciousness of its citizens.
Wrong. Mind can be, and used to be controlled. Here in the west by the mass media and social justice warrior groups, in China by the mass media and the police. Actually if the punishment is swift and deterrent enough most people going to control their own minds, and the rest will be useful for reminding the majority what will happen if they stop doing so.
The most populous country on earth with so many shape of evil.
No wonder that there are many criminals has been caught and they will not stop until police take their " roots " as well
Not an easy job for polices then, they have to interrogate many people just to find one villain. And actually Xi Jinping is a great man imo, he can lead 1.5 billions people and make strict rules for them. No wonder that there are many criminals has been caught and they will not stop until police take their " roots " as well
The most populous country on earth with so many shape of evil.
No wonder that there are many criminals has been caught and they will not stop until police take their " roots " as well
No wonder that there are many criminals has been caught and they will not stop until police take their " roots " as well
Its got to be draining beating back the internet against outside propaganda.
That second part you highlighted is interesting,like no one is allowed to have a face on the internet or whats driving that aspect?
That second part you highlighted is interesting,like no one is allowed to have a face on the internet or whats driving that aspect?
I highlighted this part, not just because it is a surprise. People with half a brain know about china and its internet army. This reminded me of how facebook was aggressively pushing people to use their real ID. As soon as someone has total power, under communism or under a massive intelligence agency like facebook, they want mooore total power...
great indeed committed by the government of china. good work . Internet crime is very detrimental
You've just committed an internet crime. Please report yourself to your bamboo leaves eating boss immediately.
great indeed committed by the government of china. good work . Internet crime is very detrimental
it is only good work of dictatorship, WTF
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