do you know to be a naturalised US citizen you have to
study english both verbally and written
study american history
study the us government
be tested for all of this
and then swear an oath of allegiance to the US
oh and you wont get to be american if you dont swear allegience or if you have more then a couple petty crimes (like DUI/speeding tickets) or any serious crimes
in 10 years 8.5mill went through america's 'naturalisation' process.
so i know many think that people just get of a plane and they instantly treated like americans. im sorry to inform you that america has a naturalisation process
the US put ~400k people into ICE detention centres
lets put it into prospective
if chinas 1/4bill pop has only 1mill detained (0.07%)
americas 320m has 400k detained(0.125%)
kinda looks bad for US when you put things into prospective
Topic: Chinese Uighurs - concentration camps, slave labor (Read 383 times)
It is not only within the case of china but also in other countries that a variety of minority people are bereft of their rights thanks to this religion with India america carries the identity of individuals on the idea of faith and caste. it's usually built by the govt of the country this number of minor people wouldn't be bereft of their rights if the govt demanded equal rights for all political institutions exercise their power because the system of the state is weak.
Every religion has their own beliefs but if a particular religion becomes minority in a country then they will face these kind of hell while they are living.And we still have people who generalize muslims are terrorists then why arab countries are being invaded by the white people for tourism and business they too muslims right? We need the leaders who treat every religion equally or else the country is never going to be developed in the right way.
It is true and it happens in all countries that minorities will experience unpleasant things but the levels will vary depending on how the government protects its citizens, even though never guarantee 100% of minorities get their rights.
Every religion has their own beliefs but if a particular religion becomes minority in a country then they will face these kind of hell while they are living.And we still have people who generalize muslims are terrorists then why arab countries are being invaded by the white people for tourism and business they too muslims right? We need the leaders who treat every religion equally or else the country is never going to be developed in the right way.
It is true and it happens in all countries that minorities will experience unpleasant things but the levels will vary depending on how the government protects its citizens, even though never guarantee 100% of minorities get their rights.
who cares about the uighurs integration into the chinese society depopulates east asia and gives space back to the wild nature.
if no one does something about the muslims they turn their area into an afghanistan or somalia style terrorist shithole.
or a hateful imperialist nation like turkey.
if no one does something about the muslims they turn their area into an afghanistan or somalia style terrorist shithole.
or a hateful imperialist nation like turkey.
Although I can't agree with your post, I would agree with certain parts.
First of all, the Chinese government claims that they are trying to integrate Muslims in to the national society, by removing harmful foreign influences. And they say that this is the reason why they have banned practises such as fasting on Eid and circumcision.
And then, we can't deny the fact that 100% Muslim nations such as Somalia and Afghanistan remain as some of the most dangerous places on earth. And Turkey has gone from one of the most progressive nations in the world, to one of the most regressive in a matter of two decades.
Yeah China isn’t trying to reintegrate people into their society or anything like that. They’re literally just terrorizing these people because they’re not fitting the whole ‘China #1’ model.
China demands respect from their people. There are videos of them pulling organs out of these peoples bodies while they’re alive.
They’re literally committing another Holocaust and we’re acting like things are fine just so business can continue.
who cares about the uighurs integration into the chinese society depopulates east asia and gives space back to the wild nature.
if no one does something about the muslims they turn their area into an afghanistan or somalia style terrorist shithole.
or a hateful imperialist nation like turkey.
if no one does something about the muslims they turn their area into an afghanistan or somalia style terrorist shithole.
or a hateful imperialist nation like turkey.
Although I can't agree with your post, I would agree with certain parts.
First of all, the Chinese government claims that they are trying to integrate Muslims in to the national society, by removing harmful foreign influences. And they say that this is the reason why they have banned practises such as fasting on Eid and circumcision.
And then, we can't deny the fact that 100% Muslim nations such as Somalia and Afghanistan remain as some of the most dangerous places on earth. And Turkey has gone from one of the most progressive nations in the world, to one of the most regressive in a matter of two decades.
Yeah China isn’t trying to reintegrate people into their society or anything like that. They’re literally just terrorizing these people because they’re not fitting the whole ‘China #1’ model.
China demands respect from their people. There are videos of them pulling organs out of these peoples bodies while they’re alive.
They’re literally committing another Holocaust and we’re acting like things are fine just so business can continue.
who cares about the uighurs integration into the chinese society depopulates east asia and gives space back to the wild nature.
if no one does something about the muslims they turn their area into an afghanistan or somalia style terrorist shithole.
or a hateful imperialist nation like turkey.
if no one does something about the muslims they turn their area into an afghanistan or somalia style terrorist shithole.
or a hateful imperialist nation like turkey.
Although I can't agree with your post, I would agree with certain parts.
First of all, the Chinese government claims that they are trying to integrate Muslims in to the national society, by removing harmful foreign influences. And they say that this is the reason why they have banned practises such as fasting on Eid and circumcision.
And then, we can't deny the fact that 100% Muslim nations such as Somalia and Afghanistan remain as some of the most dangerous places on earth. And Turkey has gone from one of the most progressive nations in the world, to one of the most regressive in a matter of two decades.
well they are religious people, there are more than enough religious people around in a world of 8 Billion there is no need to cry around, muslims should all known that nr.1 rule of islam is
serve no one but god, that includes also not to serve the Umma as that would be some kind of humanism.
Uighurs in those camps never thought they are Chinese themselves.Op calls them Chinese Uighurs, which would be a potential insult upon them.
Bah, that is exactly why they are arrested and put in the camps for being separatists other than being muslims.
They think they are eastern Turkish people. While the Chinese govt wants to intergrate and assimilate them causing conflicts.
Well, this may still be better than giving them up and handling them in Turkish way. (God saves Armenians)
Bah, that is exactly why they are arrested and put in the camps for being separatists other than being muslims.
They think they are eastern Turkish people. While the Chinese govt wants to intergrate and assimilate them causing conflicts.
Well, this may still be better than giving them up and handling them in Turkish way. (God saves Armenians)
who cares about the uighurs integration into the chinese society depopulates east asia and gives space back to the wild nature.
if no one does something about the muslims they turn their area into an afghanistan or somalia style terrorist shithole.
or a hateful imperialist nation like turkey.
if no one does something about the muslims they turn their area into an afghanistan or somalia style terrorist shithole.
or a hateful imperialist nation like turkey.
Although I can't agree with your post, I would agree with certain parts.
First of all, the Chinese government claims that they are trying to integrate Muslims in to the national society, by removing harmful foreign influences. And they say that this is the reason why they have banned practises such as fasting on Eid and circumcision.
And then, we can't deny the fact that 100% Muslim nations such as Somalia and Afghanistan remain as some of the most dangerous places on earth. And Turkey has gone from one of the most progressive nations in the world, to one of the most regressive in a matter of two decades.
The Chinese Ambassador to the UK recently was interviewed on the BBC where he was shown a drone video that purportedly shows Uighurs in Western China blindfolded, shaven and handcuffed being lead into trains. The Ambassador had no good explanation as to what was going on in the video, and the video was obviously taken without the permission of the Chinese government.
Separately, according to a New York Times report, it appears the Chinese government is supplying Uighur slave (forced) labor to Chinese manufacturers of PPE that is sold throughout the world, including the United States.
Both of the above looks very bad on the part of the Chinese government and the CCP. This along with what China is doing to the people of Hong Kong.
How should the world respond to the above reports? Should Western companies pull out of Chinese markets (production and selling their services/merchandise)?
Separately, according to a New York Times report, it appears the Chinese government is supplying Uighur slave (forced) labor to Chinese manufacturers of PPE that is sold throughout the world, including the United States.
Both of the above looks very bad on the part of the Chinese government and the CCP. This along with what China is doing to the people of Hong Kong.
How should the world respond to the above reports? Should Western companies pull out of Chinese markets (production and selling their services/merchandise)?
who cares about the uighurs integration into the chinese society depopulates east asia and gives space back to the wild nature.
if no one does something about the muslims they turn their area into an afghanistan or somalia style terrorist shithole.
or a hateful imperialist nation like turkey.
First, more evidences of these camps are needed. Unfortunatelly it's very hard to have concrete evidences from what happens behind the curtains in China, as it's a very closed country where the government watches everything going on very closely.
What do you think is going on with the people in the video? There are not many things that could be happening to the people handcuffed, blindfolded and shaven in the video that are not serious human rights violations. In fact, I cannot think of anything that could be happening not involving serious human rights violations.China ambassador in UK told on the television he didn't know what was that video showing the prisioners. Then a investigation must be conducted and after some steps I'm sure some countries like US will take proper actions towards China, as Mike Pompeo has already signaled.
If there is something Trump has already let very clear is that he is totally against human trafficking, so I think he won't turn a blind eye to that. But again, more evidences are needed, so China won't have any excuse. It's needed to act on the right time!
First, more evidences of these camps are needed. Unfortunatelly it's very hard to have concrete evidences from what happens behind the curtains in China, as it's a very closed country where the government watches everything going on very closely.
What do you think is going on with the people in the video? There are not many things that could be happening to the people handcuffed, blindfolded and shaven in the video that are not serious human rights violations. In fact, I cannot think of anything that could be happening not involving serious human rights violations.No one is going to pull out of China because of this. No company (or country, politician, etc) really even cares that its happening. They only pretend to care when the news shines a light on it and people start sharing these horrible videos, which is why politicians know that they have to make a statement about how they're sanctioning some random Chinese officials.
I can see other companies relocate their supply chains out of China over this + the coronavirus. If there is more evidence of forced/slave labor being used to produce other products made in China, I can see more companies pulling out of China.
Trump has been a China hawk since long before he became a politician. As mentioned above, the US cannot simply end its trading relationship with China because we rely on Chines products for much of what we consume, including basic medicine. Most of the China hawks in the Republican party were elected as China hawks, and I don't think they are hawkish to gain a political advantage.
No one is going to pull out of China because of this. No company (or country, politician, etc) really even cares that its happening. They only pretend to care when the news shines a light on it and people start sharing these horrible videos, which is why politicians know that they have to make a statement about how they're sanctioning some random Chinese officials.
A couple days ago when Pompeo was in the UK he raised the issue of religious freedom in China as it's not just the muslims that are getting "suppressed". Also, Japan has passed a budget to incentivize companies to move out of China. So far I think 80 are taking them up on the money and are going to move their companies to other countries and also back to Japan. Covid has made it clear to them that they need to make major changes to a lot of their supply chains. Japan isn't the only country (Australia is also talking about "partial" decoupling from China for example) but so far the US seems quiet on that front.Some are going to do this if it profitable to do so. Contrary to popular belief China isn’t as cheap of a labor source as it used to be. The chinese workers are demanding a better wage and benefits, and they are successful in hetring some of this.
A lot of these countries in southeast Asia will draw in the factories leaving China.
US may incentivize the move too. Though not sure how China will respond to a move like that.
No one is going to pull out of China because of this. No company (or country, politician, etc) really even cares that its happening. They only pretend to care when the news shines a light on it and people start sharing these horrible videos, which is why politicians know that they have to make a statement about how they're sanctioning some random Chinese officials.
A couple days ago when Pompeo was in the UK he raised the issue of religious freedom in China as it's not just the muslims that are getting "suppressed". Also, Japan has passed a budget to incentivize companies to move out of China. So far I think 80 are taking them up on the money and are going to move their companies to other countries and also back to Japan. Covid has made it clear to them that they need to make major changes to a lot of their supply chains. Japan isn't the only country (Australia is also talking about "partial" decoupling from China for example) but so far the US seems quiet on that front.If Islamic country ask anything then they will be called as terrorists.
You can't find mush information about Muslims treated in the inhumane way because media doesn't even give attention to the issue, we all are just people if we are going to be separated by religions then other country can't involve much into this.It's just insane how China is treating their minorities. Its not only the Muslim community or Hong Kong, China is still oppressing tibetians.
The western world should step up against China because no other countries would do so. Unfortunately the Muslim countries are looking for investments from China in their home market. Being dependant on that capital and investment inflow there are no critical voice from the Muslim communities against China. It's sad that such things are still being tolerated in 2020.
many countries have criticized their actions on the Uighurs, but they seem to be deaf to criticism from various parts of the world, and I strongly agree if there must be actions such as boycotting their products so they can hear and stop the persecution.
in fact, the end of this problem is the openness of the state which can explain well the problems that occur there. many countries will always react very violently if religious sentiments carry over, even though this is a problem in their own country.because after all politics can not be separated from problems like this, openness is indeed needed so that there can be a solution that can be done properly.
a country's product embargo cannot solve a problem properly, because we know that China has a lot to play a role in all industries that are fairly renewable and certainly at affordable prices.
it is not easy for developing countries to do that, but for developed countries will not experience problems with its economy.
the important thing is to sit at the negotiating table well and there must also be no intervention from other countries against the sovereignty of other countries. because this will tend to be unwise.
If Islamic country ask anything then they will be called as terrorists.
You can't find mush information about Muslims treated in the inhumane way because media doesn't even give attention to the issue, we all are just people if we are going to be separated by religions then other country can't involve much into this.It's just insane how China is treating their minorities. Its not only the Muslim community or Hong Kong, China is still oppressing tibetians.
The western world should step up against China because no other countries would do so. Unfortunately the Muslim countries are looking for investments from China in their home market. Being dependant on that capital and investment inflow there are no critical voice from the Muslim communities against China. It's sad that such things are still being tolerated in 2020.
Yeah the western world just isn't going to do this. They know that it is profitable to just look the other way on China. Maybe they signal that they're trying some stuff to stop China from doing what they're doing with some sanctions or some plans to force China to change, but China will never listen.
China just changes just enough to please the Western media and public, and they're able to get away with whatever they want. What a system we have -- literally just allowing a Holocaust to happen in front of all of us.
many countries have criticized their actions on the Uighurs, but they seem to be deaf to criticism from various parts of the world, and I strongly agree if there must be actions such as boycotting their products so they can hear and stop the persecution.
If Islamic country ask anything then they will be called as terrorists.
You can't find mush information about Muslims treated in the inhumane way because media doesn't even give attention to the issue, we all are just people if we are going to be separated by religions then other country can't involve much into this.It's just insane how China is treating their minorities. Its not only the Muslim community or Hong Kong, China is still oppressing tibetians.
The western world should step up against China because no other countries would do so. Unfortunately the Muslim countries are looking for investments from China in their home market. Being dependant on that capital and investment inflow there are no critical voice from the Muslim communities against China. It's sad that such things are still being tolerated in 2020.
Modern day slavery seems to be as rife as it ever was, and it makes one wonder why all the dick heads that are pulling down historic monuments and statues are doing it. It almost appears that they want to conceal the concept for the benefit of the modern day slavers. Of course they are funded by the Anglophile Empire, so they don't want to do anything that decreases their profits.
BLM wants to spread communism to the US. Their founders are Marxist’s. How should the world respond to the above reports? Should Western companies pull out of Chinese markets (production and selling their services/merchandise)?
If the reports are true, then that's slavery and the world powers need to step in, but afaik, China will definitely deny all this claims as they are also keeping quite a lot of secrets from the world of late that are still yet to be fully unravelled.As for pulling out of the Chinese market, I'm in support of that, India already pulled out, and the US making things difficult for them, i believe a time will soon come when major world powers will have to unite to weaken the Chinese, and their desire to be the number one country to be reckoned with at any cost.
No one is going to pull out of China because of this. No company (or country, politician, etc) really even cares that its happening. They only pretend to care when the news shines a light on it and people start sharing these horrible videos, which is why politicians know that they have to make a statement about how they're sanctioning some random Chinese officials.
The horrible thing is that nothing will get done over in China because politicians and regular people are too fixated on short term profits, to care at all about any ideals that they may have. Hopefully at some point that changes, and people notice that we have to make decisions for the long term.
Not too good of a precedent to set ya know - genocides are pretty fucking horrible. You'd think that we would've learned from the Holocaust, but I guess otherwise.
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