ChipMixer.com has been seized. - page 5.

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Quote from: Beparanf on March 15, 2023, 11:42:26 AM

What will happened to those who use the mixer previously. Is there a chance that my Bitcoin will be connected by Bitcoin use from money laundering or we are still safe? I use Chipmixer every week to mix my coins. It’s sad to read this bad news. Cry

I believe people run to ChipMixer mostly for privacy protection, so I doubt if any user's identity will be reviewed, and ChipMixer, for its long existence, should be smart enough to keep its records kind of clean for this kind of case.

Quote from: Lucius on March 15, 2023, 11:38:17 AM

However, these are strange times, we all need to prepare that one day we will be greeted by a message that the forum has been seized.

Is this even possible? Sometimes I do ask myself some kind of question, like, "How and why has the government, which is against crypto, not made a move to shut the Bitcoin Talk Forum down?" At the same time, I convince myself that there are things that are beyond the government's reach. But this statement just kept me in a confused state.

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Quote from: dzungmobile on March 15, 2023, 12:15:16 PM

He was caught by using Paypal, unbelievable. Chipmixer is done!

Yep... was also reading and just came here to post about this before seeing your post. Tongue

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According to PayPal records for the V3 PayPal Account, on December 27, 2022,
there was a credit card payment received from MINH NGUYEN, email address
[email protected] for $150.00 with the comment “Thanks.” This transaction demonstrates
the fact that NGUYEN is utilizing a personal payment method to fund operational ChipMixer
infrastructure.

Also, we are all being heavily spied on by our governments (in case anyone hasn't noticed yet). They had 149k data points about his location, provided by Google, back from 2016 to 2022.

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Records from Google for the account [email protected] revealed
location history data. From September 2016 through March 2022, there were 149,027 data points
associated to the account that resolved in and around Ha Noi, Vietnam. The location history data
is a combination of different sources to include cell, GPS, and Wi-Fi, showing that NGUYEN
was physically in Vietnam during these data points.

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I read a long attached document at https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1574581/download

He was caught by using Paypal, unbelievable. Chipmixer is done!

Shit happens is the document mentioned a lot about the forum. Maybe we must prepare for bad days for Bitcointalk.

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Quote from: Beparanf on March 15, 2023, 11:42:26 AM

What will happened to those who use the mixer previously. Is there a chance that my Bitcoin will be connected by Bitcoin use from money laundering or we are still safe? I use Chipmixer every week to mix my coins. It’s sad to read this bad news. Cry

I doubt you would get arrested just for using the mixer, this would be plain dumb. Now, if you used the mixer to move coins related to hacks, exploits, ransomware, drugs, etc... and they can link your coins to your identity, then you should be worried.

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Quote from: Lucius on March 15, 2023, 11:38:17 AM

Quote from: tranthidung on March 15, 2023, 10:52:09 AM

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Any solid reason for them to seize bitcointalk.org?

As if they need a solid reason to do something, they can just do it for any reason.

Exactly, they don't need a reason and furthermore, they are able to invent a myriad of them on the spot.

But it makes no sense, the backslash would be too enormous for this and would yield basically nothing, let's not forget the forum is not even close to being completely anonymous, it's behind Cloudflare just to give an example, plus a few of the participants here leave so many traces that probably the most incompetent agency in the world would be able to track them, just grab addresses and force exchanges to disclose who has used it if they are theirs.

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What will happened to those who use the mixer previously. Is there a chance that my Bitcoin will be connected by Bitcoin use from money laundering or we are still safe? I use Chipmixer every week to mix my coins. It’s sad to read this bad news. Cry

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Quote from: tranthidung on March 15, 2023, 10:52:09 AM

~snip~
Any solid reason for them to seize bitcointalk.org?

As if they need a solid reason to do something, they can just do it for any reason. Although when it comes to CM, it would be logical that they first attacked BTT as the main source of advertising, and now that they have demolished CM, the forum will probably not be an interesting target for them. However, these are strange times, we all need to prepare that one day we will be greeted by a message that the forum has been seized.

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the primary operator of ChipMixer has been identified, and the FBI is already on a manhunt to bring him in front of justice.

https://www.bka.de/DE/Presse/Listenseite_Pressemitteilungen/2023/Presse2023/230315_Geldwaesche_Darknet.html

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a reward is now offered via the U.S. DoJ "Rewards for Justice" program

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Minh Quốc Nguyễn, 49, of Hanoi, Vietnam, was charged today in Philadelphia with money laundering, operating an unlicensed money transmitting business and identity theft, connected to the operation of ChipMixer.

https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/justice-department-investigation-leads-takedown-darknet-cryptocurrency-mixer-processed-over-3

but he was here few hours ago

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Quote from: TryNinja on March 15, 2023, 10:49:34 AM

Didn't you get the memo? Only criminals use mixers.

In the past, there was a memo. Only criminals use Bitcoin. Wink

Quote from: TryNinja on March 15, 2023, 10:49:34 AM

So far it looks like CM's operator is still out there.

Quote from: nioctib_100 on March 15, 2023, 10:33:18 AM

"German investigators said that the FBI is seeking the chief suspect, whom they didn't identify." From this article: https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/german-investigators-crypto-money-laundering-site-97879857

Chipmixer is still out there!

Thanks. I guess so and read that article minutes ago too.

I am thinking of the forum as well. If governments fail to seize and shutdown all mixers (that I believe they will never succeed), will they change to hunt for platforms that promote mixers like the forum?

Any solid reason for them to seize bitcointalk.org?

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Quote from: tranthidung on March 15, 2023, 10:24:01 AM

I am sure they intend to hunt operators like what they did with Tornado Cash but I believe with capability of running ChipMixer successfully since 2017, operators are smart and clever enough to secure their identities. I hope so!

So far it looks like CM's operator is still out there.

Quote from: nioctib_100 on March 15, 2023, 10:33:18 AM

"German investigators said that the FBI is seeking the chief suspect, whom they didn't identify." From this article: https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/german-investigators-crypto-money-laundering-site-97879857

Chipmixer is still out there!

Quote from: Edwardard on March 15, 2023, 10:47:09 AM

Well, so is this a sign that governments are not going to let us use mixers ?

Didn't you get the memo? Only criminals use mixers.

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Ah, this is a very sad news to hear especially for our bitcointalk community ppl. I think chipmixer made a record of having a "longest running" signature campaign in the forum till date. I hope they come up with something although the chances seems very low after this seizure Sad

Well, so is this a sign that governments are not going to let us use mixers ? I myself love mixing services and promoting one in my sig. space as well. I hate to see them all at risk now (although coinomize is still up for now).

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Quote from: DaveF on March 15, 2023, 09:08:19 AM

Wonder if they are going to go after the operators. Usually when they do something like this if they know who they are / could find them they mention that.

I am sure they intend to hunt operators like what they did with Tornado Cash but I believe with capability of running ChipMixer successfully since 2017, operators are smart and clever enough to secure their identities. I hope so!

In 2019, Bestmixer.io was seized and in May 2022, it's the turn of Blender.io mixer but there is no arrest after that.

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Well that's a bummer.
Wonder if they are going to go after the operators. Usually when they do something like this if they know who they are / could find them they mention that.

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https://www.coindesk.com/policy/2023/03/15/germany-and-us-seize-over-46m-crypto-tied-to-chipmixer-investigation-europol/

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Authorities from Germany and the U.S. have seized up to 44 million euros ($46.3 million) from ChipMixer, a noted cryptocurrency mixer

The respective authorities took down the platform's infrastructure, seizing four servers, 7 terabytes of data and 1909.4 bitcoins (BTC) ($47.7 million), Europol said on Wednesday.
ChipMixer allowed its clients to hide the trails of their criminal exploits, such as drug or weapon trafficking, ransomware attacks and payments fraud.
The seizure was also supported by Belgium, Poland and Switzerland.

If you visit the URL, you can see that it has been seized by law enforcement: https://chipmixer.com/

The same thing with the Tor version.

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