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Quote from: cmonman on November 24, 2020, 09:55:23 PM

Quote from: ryzaadit on November 24, 2020, 08:20:40 PM

Quote from: cmonman on November 24, 2020, 10:23:05 AM

There isn't one twitch streamer that calculates it this way. The way most people see it, you pay a premium for the bonus, your winning payout lines doesn't increase by 100x. If this is true, then max payout can only be 500x on MT2 Roll Eyes

Well, because it's doesn't matter the viewer doesn't care he did a wrong calculation. The important thing to see for the viewer will be always:
- Doing a big bet
- Win big bet
- Lose a lot of money

All calculation for feature buy will always depend on how the money you spend.

That wasn't my point. I'm referring to professional gamblers calculating this way. The correct logic is your bet amount(excluding the bonus premium) x per pay line, if my bet was a 10 dollar bet, my hit would be $10 x 2442 so I would've made $24,420. The extra cost is a premium for the bonus. No point of going on with this debate though, no way of convincing you guys or me haha Cheesy

I do believe that people who stream on twitch (or any other place) would honestly just focus on the big lines but there are two types, one of them will do big lines and wager minimum and their shows are usually boring for a very long period of time unless they manage to hit a few, and if they end up in profit people do not really care about the 95% of the show where it was just loss loss loss loss loss because there are those couple wins that made him profit so they see it as a good strategy.

Or there are those who do not gamble that way and gamble with less risk and just try to make a small amount of return, when they do that they end up with either a small loss or a small win but they are steady and some viewers prefer that and if they end up steadily profiting, they get more famous.

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Quote from: Bitinity on November 26, 2020, 10:26:56 AM

If there is bet history tab, we will know easier about the exact multiplier and exact difference between winning with buy feature and winning with normal spin.

Even the casino doesn't have bet history tabs, he just can use a history bet from slot provider.

If he really wants to know the different how the calculation multiplier works for Bonus Feature with Normal Spin but only for some specific slot provider who has an ability history betting like Pragmatic & No Limit.

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Quote from: Betwrong on November 26, 2020, 05:47:39 AM

Quote from: cmonman on November 25, 2020, 01:08:01 AM

Quote from: serjent05 on November 24, 2020, 10:42:41 PM

There is no debate here, I think, it is just a healthy conversation on how we view things regarding the calculation of buy-in features reward multiplier. Wink

Friendly debate Cheesy

Maybe you guys are right, idk Huh

Just my first time hearing this. No worries

First off, yeah, it's a friendly debate,

, and with bonus or not, 2442x is a great win, so, all of us here, we are happy for you, mate!

It is just so happened that none of us discussing it here, was ever playing with bonus feature, so we can only theorize on this matter, while you, I assume, can know it for certain.

So, the question is, what multiplier did you see in the Leaderboard column "Multiplier" when you hit that 2442x?

AFAIK the multiplier contest on chips.gg does not allow buy bonus feature, logically it will not be listed under the leaderboard as it does not count for the contest. Unfortunately there is no bet history (for the slot games) on Chips like what we used to see on almost all other casinos. If there is bet history tab, we will know easier about the exact multiplier and exact difference between winning with buy feature and winning with normal spin.

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Quote from: cmonman on November 25, 2020, 01:08:01 AM

Quote from: serjent05 on November 24, 2020, 10:42:41 PM

There is no debate here, I think, it is just a healthy conversation on how we view things regarding the calculation of buy-in features reward multiplier. Wink

Friendly debate Cheesy

Maybe you guys are right, idk Huh

Just my first time hearing this. No worries

First off, yeah, it's a friendly debate,

, and with bonus or not, 2442x is a great win, so, all of us here, we are happy for you, mate!

It is just so happened that none of us discussing it here, was ever playing with bonus feature, so we can only theorize on this matter, while you, I assume, can know it for certain.

So, the question is, what multiplier did you see in the Leaderboard column "Multiplier" when you hit that 2442x?

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Quote from: serjent05 on November 24, 2020, 10:42:41 PM

There is no debate here, I think, it is just a healthy conversation on how we view things regarding the calculation of buy-in features reward multiplier. Wink

Friendly debate Cheesy

Maybe you guys are right, idk Huh

Just my first time hearing this. No worries

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Quote from: cmonman on November 24, 2020, 09:55:23 PM

That wasn't my point. I'm referring to professional gamblers calculating this way.

Streamers and promoters would always go for the most exaggerated line. So it is normal that promoters/streamers will always calculate the maximum multiplier/minimum wage requirement to entice viewers.

Quote from: cmonman on November 24, 2020, 09:55:23 PM

No point of going on with this debate though, no way of convincing you guys or me haha Cheesy

There is no debate here, I think, it is just a healthy conversation on how we view things regarding the calculation of buy-in features reward multiplier. Wink

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Quote from: ryzaadit on November 24, 2020, 08:20:40 PM

Quote from: cmonman on November 24, 2020, 10:23:05 AM

There isn't one twitch streamer that calculates it this way. The way most people see it, you pay a premium for the bonus, your winning payout lines doesn't increase by 100x. If this is true, then max payout can only be 500x on MT2 Roll Eyes

Well, because it's doesn't matter the viewer doesn't care he did a wrong calculation. The important thing to see for the viewer will be always:
- Doing a big bet
- Win big bet
- Lose a lot of money

All calculation for feature buy will always depend on how the money you spend.

That wasn't my point. I'm referring to professional gamblers calculating this way. The correct logic is your bet amount(excluding the bonus premium) x per pay line, if my bet was a 10 dollar bet, my hit would be $10 x 2442 so I would've made $24,420. The extra cost is a premium for the bonus. No point of going on with this debate though, no way of convincing you guys or me haha Cheesy

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Quote from: cmonman on November 24, 2020, 10:23:05 AM

There isn't one twitch streamer that calculates it this way. The way most people see it, you pay a premium for the bonus, your winning payout lines doesn't increase by 100x. If this is true, then max payout can only be 500x on MT2 Roll Eyes

Well, because it's doesn't matter the viewer doesn't care he did a wrong calculation. The important thing to see for the viewer will be always:
- Doing a big bet
- Win big bet
- Lose a lot of money

All calculation for feature buy will always depend on how the money you spend.

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Quote from: Bitinity on November 24, 2020, 08:52:42 AM

Quote from: ryzaadit on November 24, 2020, 07:40:58 AM

Quote from: cmonman on November 23, 2020, 02:26:54 PM

Yes I did buy it but that's incorrect. Your multiplier is calculated by your total win divide by bet amount which mine is at .10c, it's not based off 10 dollars. You pay a premium for the bonus which is 100x your bet amount so if you want to subtract my bonus buy, then my multiplier win is 2342x

If the casino has a "Live History" winning bet.

Your multiplier will be used how much money you are spending, so in Live History winning bet your information bet will be 10$ Spending and x23.42 multiplier. I already winning by buying feature and almost all of the casino will share your winning on their Live History winning with how much money you are spending not current stake bet you are choose while buying the feature.

Yap, that's my point. Most sites record such win based on the amount we win divided by the amount we spend for the bonus feature. In other case, No Limit City provider uses the calculation like cmonman said on their bet history even if we use the buy bonus feature but it is listed different way on the casino bet history. Anyway it is not really important to talk about this calculation unless we are in a multiplier contest where it can be something debatable if there is no clear rules about buy bonus feature.

This is the first time I'm hearing about this lol. There isn't one twitch streamer that calculates it this way. The way most people see it, you pay a premium for the bonus, your winning payout lines doesn't increase by 100x. If this is true, then max payout can only be 500x on MT2 Roll Eyes

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Quote from: ryzaadit on November 24, 2020, 07:40:58 AM

Quote from: cmonman on November 23, 2020, 02:26:54 PM

Yes I did buy it but that's incorrect. Your multiplier is calculated by your total win divide by bet amount which mine is at .10c, it's not based off 10 dollars. You pay a premium for the bonus which is 100x your bet amount so if you want to subtract my bonus buy, then my multiplier win is 2342x

If the casino has a "Live History" winning bet.

Your multiplier will be used how much money you are spending, so in Live History winning bet your information bet will be 10$ Spending and x23.42 multiplier. I already winning by buying feature and almost all of the casino will share your winning on their Live History winning with how much money you are spending not current stake bet you are choose while buying the feature.

Yap, that's my point. Most sites record such win based on the amount we win divided by the amount we spend for the bonus feature. In other case, No Limit City provider uses the calculation like cmonman said on their bet history even if we use the buy bonus feature but it is listed different way on the casino bet history. Anyway it is not really important to talk about this calculation unless we are in a multiplier contest where it can be something debatable if there is no clear rules about buy bonus feature.

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Quote from: serjent05 on November 24, 2020, 05:21:51 AM

Quote from: Betwrong on November 24, 2020, 04:34:24 AM

To me it is still an open question, with what multiplier you will be presented in the leader board if you buy a bonus feature? It would be logical to assume that the bet was $10, if the feature was bought, but, on the other hand, as @cmonman said, technically his bet was indeed just 10 cents.

Depends on how the host processed it. Normally if you buy a feature, your wagered amount is the price of the bonus feature and most casino count it that way. I don't know about Chips if they process it that way too since I have not bought any feature in slot hosted by Chips, I just do the normal spins.

According to Bex, the multiplier would be in accordance to the price of the bonus feature that you purchased. If you win $10 with $10 bonus buy, that means the multiplier would be 1x instead of 100x if you actually get the bonus from a normal spin. So cmonman would have got 24.42x in the leaderboard.

Trying to slip into the leaderboard for the multiplier race with bonus buy is not a good option. Some base spin without the bonus round would take you over 100x . I got 177x around 2 weeks ago in MT2 base spin without any scatters at all, just wilds and some premium symbols

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Quote from: cmonman on November 23, 2020, 02:26:54 PM

Yes I did buy it but that's incorrect. Your multiplier is calculated by your total win divide by bet amount which mine is at .10c, it's not based off 10 dollars. You pay a premium for the bonus which is 100x your bet amount so if you want to subtract my bonus buy, then my multiplier win is 2342x

If the casino has a "Live History" winning bet.

Your multiplier will be used how much money you are spending, so in Live History winning bet your information bet will be 10$ Spending and x23.42 multiplier. I already winning by buying feature and almost all of the casino will share your winning on their Live History winning with how much money you are spending not current stake bet you are choose while buying the feature.

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Quote from: Betwrong on November 24, 2020, 04:34:24 AM

To me it is still an open question, with what multiplier you will be presented in the leader board if you buy a bonus feature? It would be logical to assume that the bet was $10, if the feature was bought, but, on the other hand, as @cmonman said, technically his bet was indeed just 10 cents.

Depends on how the host processed it. Normally if you buy a feature, your wagered amount is the price of the bonus feature and most casino count it that way. I don't know about Chips if they process it that way too since I have not bought any feature in slot hosted by Chips, I just do the normal spins.

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Quote from: Bitinity on November 23, 2020, 01:07:50 AM

Quote from: cmonman on November 23, 2020, 12:57:44 AM

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Check out my biggest hit on Money Train 2 Grin

2442x

Was it a normal free spin or you did buy feature? 2442x on that screen does not show whether you are buying feature or not, that's why I asked you about it. If it was a buy feature, then it was 24.42x only. Big difference in terms of the multiplier but no matter it was normal free spin or buy feature one, it is still a nice win obviously.

Yes I did buy it but that's incorrect. Your multiplier is calculated by your total win divide by bet amount which mine is at .10c, it's not based off 10 dollars. You pay a premium for the bonus which is 100x your bet amount so if you want to subtract my bonus buy, then my multiplier win is 2342x

Well, that is the normal way of calculating it if one does not bought the buy feature, but in case one bought it, it is calculated as buy feature cost / multiplier reward at least not on the game but on-site calculation Grin

To me it is still an open question, with what multiplier you will be presented in the leader board if you buy a bonus feature? It would be logical to assume that the bet was $10, if the feature was bought, but, on the other hand, as @cmonman said, technically his bet was indeed just 10 cents.

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Quote from: babygun on November 23, 2020, 06:52:55 AM

Quote from: barbara44 on November 23, 2020, 06:07:15 AM

Money train seems to be the go to place for many gamblers from the last 2 post we have seen about it.
First chips came out and said that people are moving to money train nowadays and more people gamble there than anywhere else. And now we have cmonman (COME ON MAAAN Cheesy

) gambling on money trains and making this insane return as well.

This looks like one of the games where you may not win very commonly but when you do, you make all the loss back and then some, kinda like gambling on dice with 70x+ return where you will not win a lot but when you do it will be bigger but with bigger odds obviously.

Hopefully I will one day hit one of these big ones as well, I want to share the screenshot of a 999x+ or bigger win here one day but first I gotta hit one of those Cheesy

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Congrats cmonman with your win, that's a nice multiplier Grin

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Money train 2 is an extremely volatile slot and even if you get into the bonusround you can still have bad luck and only win x10. On youtube, I have seen massive wins on money train 2 but in 1 video, acomparison between money train 1 and 2 was made and that guy won more on money train 1 (after 10 feature buys on both slots).

Indeed, Money Train 2 is extremely volatile slot. I have been playing Money train 2 and I haven't got any good multipliers. I even bought buy features several times and still no luck. I found Jammin Jars more friendly.

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Quote from: Bitinity on November 23, 2020, 01:07:50 AM

Quote from: cmonman on November 23, 2020, 12:57:44 AM

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Check out my biggest hit on Money Train 2 Grin

2442x

Was it a normal free spin or you did buy feature? 2442x on that screen does not show whether you are buying feature or not, that's why I asked you about it. If it was a buy feature, then it was 24.42x only. Big difference in terms of the multiplier but no matter it was normal free spin or buy feature one, it is still a nice win obviously.

Yes I did buy it but that's incorrect. Your multiplier is calculated by your total win divide by bet amount which mine is at .10c, it's not based off 10 dollars. You pay a premium for the bonus which is 100x your bet amount so if you want to subtract my bonus buy, then my multiplier win is 2342x

Well, that is the normal way of calculating it if one does not bought the buy feature, but in case one bought it, it is calculated as buy feature cost / multiplier reward at least not on the game but on-site calculation Grin

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Quote from: Bitinity on November 23, 2020, 01:07:50 AM

Quote from: cmonman on November 23, 2020, 12:57:44 AM

Check out my biggest hit on Money Train 2 Grin

2442x

Was it a normal free spin or you did buy feature? 2442x on that screen does not show whether you are buying feature or not, that's why I asked you about it. If it was a buy feature, then it was 24.42x only. Big difference in terms of the multiplier but no matter it was normal free spin or buy feature one, it is still a nice win obviously.

Yes I did buy it but that's incorrect. Your multiplier is calculated by your total win divide by bet amount which mine is at .10c, it's not based off 10 dollars. You pay a premium for the bonus which is 100x your bet amount so if you want to subtract my bonus buy, then my multiplier win is 2342x

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Quote from: arallmuus on November 23, 2020, 09:18:35 AM

Quote from: babygun on November 23, 2020, 06:52:55 AM

Money train 2 is an extremely volatile slot and even if you get into the bonusround you can still have bad luck and only win x10. On youtube, I have seen massive wins on money train 2 but in 1 video, acomparison between money train 1 and 2 was made and that guy won more on money train 1 (after 10 feature buys on both slots).

Its because Money Train 2 has higher volatility compared with the 1st version. It also means the number of players getting shitty bonus buy will be higher as well so no doubt that the comparison video ended up favoring the 1st version but 10 is a small sample subject to compare both of it.

I personally stick with Money Train 2, it is alot more entertaining especially with the payeer/collector and necromancer symbol , also you will get extra 500x multiplier if you manage to fill all the slots but its pretty rare to happen .

@cmonman : Great hit, I never pass 300x yet with Money Train 2 lol

Yeah also true. I like watching the videos on youtube with big wins on Money Train 2, but I don't like to play the game. Too volatile for me. I only have a small bankroll and this game would eat it away in no time Grin

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Quote from: babygun on November 23, 2020, 06:52:55 AM

Money train 2 is an extremely volatile slot and even if you get into the bonusround you can still have bad luck and only win x10. On youtube, I have seen massive wins on money train 2 but in 1 video, acomparison between money train 1 and 2 was made and that guy won more on money train 1 (after 10 feature buys on both slots).

Its because Money Train 2 has higher volatility compared with the 1st version. It also means the number of players getting shitty bonus buy will be higher as well so no doubt that the comparison video ended up favoring the 1st version but 10 is a small sample subject to compare both of it.

I personally stick with Money Train 2, it is alot more entertaining especially with the payeer/collector and necromancer symbol , also you will get extra 500x multiplier if you manage to fill all the slots but its pretty rare to happen .

@cmonman : Great hit, I never pass 300x yet with Money Train 2 lol

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