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Quote from: Proro on August 14, 2022, 10:17:14 AM

Is it a good idea for Christians to get involved in politics, because if they are involved in it, they tend to lie, make promises they can't fulfill and sometimes get their hands dirty which is sin.

And ministers of the Gospel, are they suppose to endorse any candidate to their congregants. What's your take?

If Christians do not involved in politics then who will come and change the Society? Do you understand the concept or meaning of Politics? Now I believe you yourself is a Christian. Will be involved in Politics so you can do what others have not done to change the Society? Even in the Bible there is Politics. In the book of first Samuel and second Samuel, when the Israelites asked Samuel to tell God to give them King. And Samuel asked God and God told Samuel to select Saul as the king in Israel. Who was the first Government appointment by man in Israel. And the people were happy because they believed that Saul would do what they ( the Israelites) need in the Society. Therefore, Christians participating in Politics is the best way to develop the countries. Now we are suffering because the leaders are not born again.

Of course, you are absolutely right, assuming our leaders are born again, the high rate if suffering won't be this much.

People are also suffering because of selfishness, most people who are in politics are using politics for power, greedy and also to use it to oppress others and also using it as God will like accepting bribe, lie, bear false witness etc.

So participating in politics as christian is not really bad but doing it in to help the less privilege, that is what that matters and not to use it to increase their suffering.

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Personally I believe God calls men for different purpose and would give men abilities to do According to the purpose he gives each of them, they are people called to be leaders and hold positions in political groups and they don't all have to lie and collect bribes, people who collect bribes bribes poor and have low intelligence, cause if you are wealthy and even more than the person who wants to bribe you then you can't or won't even consider his bribes as a thign to make you fail yourself, so to me na people wey poor dey do that rubbish.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on June 01, 2024, 08:39:06 AM

Christian and Muslim can play politics in the society, and they will rule well to bring good name to the society and to encourage others religion to go into politics because that is what will make people to believe the true religion, which they will like to do positive things to promote their religion.

There are some Christians in politics in my country, but they are more corrupt than those who are not a Christian in the country because they just believe that you can only succeed in politics through lie and corrupt.

I will not advise Christian, who don't have other sources of income to finance their political assignment to join politics because the seniors members on top will force them to do evil that will make people to hate them be a Christian or Muslim, which are some of things that is happening in our society today.

It is true that any person can enter politics, but basically politics should be done with honesty then it will spread in the society in the country and in the world. But now politics is essentially biased, those in power take away the power of the political party, and people's rights are being taken away. I am not saying this to anyone because almost every country has such politics, the people in the country where I live and live are mad for power. There is no doubt that they can do any kind of evil to grab the seat of power.

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Quote from: Zanab247 on June 01, 2024, 08:39:06 AM

Christian and Muslim can play politics in the society, and they will rule well to bring good name to the society and to encourage others religion to go into politics because that is what will make people to believe the true religion, which they will like to do positive things to promote their religion.

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Though, Are you aware that many of the constitutions around the world, specially those in countries which are in the West have articles which directly collide with the teachings in many of the religious and sacred texts of both the Christian Bible and the Muslim Koran?. For example, according to Koran anyone who is not a Muslim does not desire to convert to Islam is forced to pay a tax for them to continue to live within the Muslim community and keep their religion. That is against the rules of many countries, also in the Jewish and Christian scriptures it is mentioned that anyone to be found guilty of adultery is supposed to be put to death by stoning. It may not even require a formal trial of the person, to be stoned at all.
In many countries the death penalty is outlawed, being the maximum penalty life in prison.

So, indeed people of faith can enter within the world of politics, but they also need to respect the constitution and realize there must be convivence among people of different systems of faith and churches.

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Christian and Muslim can play politics in the society, and they will rule well to bring good name to the society and to encourage others religion to go into politics because that is what will make people to believe the true religion, which they will like to do positive things to promote their religion.

There are some Christians in politics in my country, but they are more corrupt than those who are not a Christian in the country because they just believe that you can only succeed in politics through lie and corrupt.

I will not advise Christian, who don't have other sources of income to finance their political assignment to join politics because the seniors members on top will force them to do evil that will make people to hate them be a Christian or Muslim, which are some of things that is happening in our society today.

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Quote from: Proro on August 14, 2022, 10:17:14 AM

Is it a good idea for Christians to get involved in politics, because if they are involved in it, they tend to lie, make promises they can't fulfill and sometimes get their hands dirty which is sin.

And ministers of the Gospel, are they suppose to endorse any candidate to their congregants. What's your take?

It is good for christians to be involved politics, if not for anything at least correct the anomaly in the political system, especially those lies that are told during election period. Politics needs upright people. Funny enough, there are laid down procedures and policies for people in government to follow, yet politicians don't always want to follow through, so we need people with integrity to come into the political arena and help out. Though politics involves people with different religious belief, however Christianity teaches you to be modest in your way of life, which most politicians don't want to be, they want a situation where they can leave a carefree life without being accountable to the people.

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Everyone has the right to politics and it is constructive if your overall efforts are for public welfare. Everyone should have equal opportunity irrespective of caste and religion. No matter which country or society you belong to, each country has a different culture based on religion. Most of the representatives in states dominated by Christians will be from among themselves which is normal and the same can be observed in states of different religions as well. But in some cases there may be differences but very little.

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Quote from: moneystery on May 28, 2024, 10:55:22 PM

we are talking about the context of religion and politics, these are two things that cannot be separated, this is because a christian who is involved in politics can implement his religious values in his political methods. even though at times they cannot fulfill their promises or act inconsistently with their religious values, at least they have tried to implement their religious values in their political ways. because no one is perfect, even a religious leader can make mistakes, let alone a politician.

I don't think religion has anything to do with politics. We need to differentiate the two and anybody trying to use religious practice to face politics is doing that at their own interests. Many of the politicians have selfish reasons why they are into politics and we should not be surprised because even pastors joining politics are not a true pastor.
We need to understand the reason why many people want to join politics in respective of their positions.

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Quote from: Proro on August 14, 2022, 10:17:14 AM

Is it a good idea for Christians to get involved in politics, because if they are involved in it, they tend to lie, make promises they can't fulfill and sometimes get their hands dirty which is sin.

And ministers of the Gospel, are they suppose to endorse any candidate to their congregants. What's your take?

There is no obstacle that anyone can enter politics, but politics must be done honestly. But present day honest politics is most lacking, you mention any country you see ministers are doing most bad deeds. Every person wearing the mask of politics is seeking support from public and when they get support they start doing dirty work. This is not the fault of the Christians, the fault is their character, the more character people have, the better for this society.

Yes I agree with you politics is open to all, only you do such things that your society or country moves forward. Politics is not only about politicians and governments but also about the collective action of individuals within society to bring about change. I don't think religion is an issue in politics. Whoever of us participates in politics and works for a better future for all, we can contribute to the progress of our community and nation.

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Quote from: Proro on August 14, 2022, 10:17:14 AM

Is it a good idea for Christians to get involved in politics, because if they are involved in it, they tend to lie, make promises they can't fulfill and sometimes get their hands dirty which is sin.

And ministers of the Gospel, are they suppose to endorse any candidate to their congregants. What's your take?

There is no obstacle that anyone can enter politics, but politics must be done honestly. But present day honest politics is most lacking, you mention any country you see ministers are doing most bad deeds. Every person wearing the mask of politics is seeking support from public and when they get support they start doing dirty work. This is not the fault of the Christians, the fault is their character, the more character people have, the better for this society.

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Politics is a general thing in human nature it does not matter of any religion even family has politics in build as hereditary from human origin, no matter how one changes environment the in build nature can't change that one is in one religion can't take away the blood in the vain or arteries, human can do away with politics no matter any religion been found if the heart of dominance is not found in him for any that seek to be recognized it's a must that politics can't be overruled.

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The bible did not state any reference that Christians should not partake in politics.You being a Christian doesn't stop you from contesting an election.Some people think that when a Christian has been elected into power,the person compromise his or her faith and follow the worldly things,no it isn't that way expect the person has a different motive.It is expected of a Godly leaders to rule the people rightly and in the fear of God,even the bible says when the righteous rule the people rejoice,it simply means when the Christian rule there's gonna be a change and a turnaround.In my country the Ex vice president is a pastor,so don't neglect any political positions because your christian but accept it without compromising your faith.

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Quote from: Proro on August 14, 2022, 10:17:14 AM

Is it a good idea for Christians to get involved in politics, because if they are involved in it, they tend to lie, make promises they can't fulfill and sometimes get their hands dirty which is sin.

And ministers of the Gospel, are they suppose to endorse any candidate to their congregants. What's your take?

Everyone can be involved in politics, there is no obstacle, but politics should be done for the benefit of the people. But politics should never be done for the benefit of ministers. Now you notice the past history of all the ministries that have been born in the present time either Mastan Rahazani was involved in dacoity etc., misused their power to become the leader in the present time. Such leaders create a stir in this country by masking their politics for many reasons.

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Quote from: Proro on August 14, 2022, 10:17:14 AM

Is it a good idea for Christians to get involved in politics, because if they are involved in it, they tend to lie, make promises they can't fulfill and sometimes get their hands dirty which is sin.

And ministers of the Gospel, are they suppose to endorse any candidate to their congregants. What's your take?

is it not bolding wrteen in the Christian holy book that when the righteous rules, the people rejoice? how then can they rule if they don't belong to a political party and get themselves involved in the electionary process?

One of the biggest problem we're facing in the society today is that most people that are competent and able to carrying out the task of leadership in the society have decided to told there hands allowing incompetent and aggressive folks to lead us and all they do is to sit back, point of errors that they aren't ready to help solve.

Regardless of your religious affiliation, if you're not ready to get involved in politics, be ready for whatever comes your way cause a time will eventually come when you will find out that the tye decision that's made by these supposed sinner politician must always stand and that you have no option rather than carrying it out regardless of your faith.

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we are talking about the context of religion and politics, these are two things that cannot be separated, this is because a christian who is involved in politics can implement his religious values in his political methods. even though at times they cannot fulfill their promises or act inconsistently with their religious values, at least they have tried to implement their religious values in their political ways. because no one is perfect, even a religious leader can make mistakes, let alone a politician.

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Quote from: Proro on August 14, 2022, 10:17:14 AM

Is it a good idea for Christians to get involved in politics, because if they are involved in it, they tend to lie, make promises they can't fulfill and sometimes get their hands dirty which is sin.

And ministers of the Gospel, are they suppose to endorse any candidate to their congregants. What's your take?

That is rather a matter of personal choice and how each one of us sees their religion and also depends on the church ones attends.
For example, Catholics and Christians (in general) do not see anything from by participating within the world of politics, because to them, it is rather a way to try to improve the world and fighting sin and evil. Which is rather a very optimistic approach on how politics works. Though, because of their system of believes, it is common to see people of faith missing their personal religious views with the state.
In the other hand, there are sects of Christianity which discourage people from participating in politics, because in the eyes of theor church, the wordly things are already are already predefined and controlled by their settings on the books of revelations. The Jehova Witnesses are a good example, they do not participate much beyond voting, they pray and wait for the second coming of Jesus, since the world is to be cleaned from all evil since that coming day.

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In my opinion I think it's in two ways not only Christians can go into politics, though the Bible said when the righteous rules the people rejoice,if we look at it the other way,Christians can go into politics and still have a corrupt mindset and heart, Christians will still lie and cheat, embezzle and steal,so for one to involve in politics it means that you must have good intentions towards your new plan or achievement to be able to handle whatever comes your way.
You must determine to deliver and replicate truth,honesty,genuity and exercise the necessary foundations for a stable leadership.

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In this regard,I see it very necessary for christians to involve in politics, because it will go a long way in bringing law and order,peace and stability, the Bible said if the ringtous rule the people rejoice.
The reason why the system is corrupted and polluted is because christian had term politics to be a dirty game also, with the fear of the unknown that if the get there they will also join them,but to me I say that ideology is a false, because there are still christians in the politics and still maintain their standard.
It's important for christians to participate in politics,so as to also be among the policy makers,to make policy's that have the interest of the body of Christ in it, because if they are not there all the policy would be made and wether it's for there interest or not they can do anything.
So I SUPPORT the christians to join politics, because God is the creator of all systems and he will back anyone who go and maintain its believe system and in standard of his faith.

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Quote from: Proro on August 14, 2022, 10:17:14 AM

Is it a good idea for Christians to get involved in politics, because if they are involved in it, they tend to lie, make promises they can't fulfill and sometimes get their hands dirty which is sin.

Because of the untruthfulness involved in politics, Christians should be mindful of going into it. Christians can serve as guides or consultants and pilot the affairs of the nation from that angle. But christians standing in to be voted for is wrong. Alot of lies are told during campaigns and after it to convince citizens. They may say it is harmless lies but that is not true. Every lie is harmful and it is a sin.

Quote from: Proro on August 14, 2022, 10:17:14 AM

And ministers of the Gospel, are they suppose to endorse any candidate to their congregants. What's your take?

They can do that. They are leaders in their own field and have every right to their followers to lead them. But what will be wrong will be to stand at the altar while preaching is going on and say it. They can find a way to let their congregation know without broadcasting it.

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Quote from: Proro on August 14, 2022, 10:17:14 AM

Is it a good idea for Christians to get involved in politics, because if they are involved in it, they tend to lie, make promises they can't fulfill and sometimes get their hands dirty which is sin.

And ministers of the Gospel, are they suppose to endorse any candidate to their congregants. What's your take?

Christians are allowed to participate in politics, even the vice president of Nigeria is a Christian and he was handling one the youth empowerment programme in the country and he was doing very. All the youths in the country was very Happy and enjoying the programme until when the president gave the programme to his Muslim sister, and that woman is suffering the Nigeria through the program. Even from this aspect of thinking, I understand that Christian involving in politics is much more important than any other religions.

Not all Christians lie and also the lieing rate of a Christian is not strong as others. Please I'm not insulting my Muslim brothers and sisters but I am talking about the reality. The president in my country now a Muslim and I heard from news (Radio and TV) that Muslim faithfuls killed/imprisoned people if someone insult Mohammed (their prophet) and the president is there but he could not stopped such but if the president is a Christian with a gradual process he would stopped it. Any how a Christian can lie he would not kill or imprisoned someone because the person insult Christ (their prophet).

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