Topic: Christian minister disciplined for quoting "homophobic" Bible verses (Read 1375 times)

Go and kill yourself  And humanity will be set free DUMB FUCKER

I totally agree, I mean what is the use of bringing in a chaplain if you won't allow him to preach the truth in the bible.

Homosexuals need to know that they are not doomed to a life of homosexuality, there is a way out if they genuinely call on God, even if it takes years for them to get answers. God will still set them free, if he sees that they sincerely want to be set free.

Of course, I am not debating this. Religious peoples are not excluded from this common requirement for tolerance of their fellow humans, and I believe they should also be required to tolerate people whom they do not agree with as they are tolerated by others who do not agree with them.

Unfortunately this is not one sided. Homosexuals and homosexual organizations have repeatedly shown lack of tolerance for people's religious beliefs and have been actively attacking religious institutions and individuals within them. Religion can not be extracted from the subject, because it is at the core of this conflict. Just pretending that religious peoples have no valid complaints regarding this subject is disingenuous at best, and until that is also addressed, both sides of this conflict will only show more intolerance for each other rather than moving forward.

Also, to address your point about equality, I believe that people should be TREATED equally regardless of their sexual orientation or religious beliefs. I do however object to the concept that we are all actually equal. That is just a bullshit fairy tale that makes people feel good about themselves and can not ever exist in reality.

Religion has always been intolerant of homosexuals,so the dynamics will always have issues. Personally think we have had those days where religion dictated how we treated one another and its time to move forward. One group is asking you to see them as human beings and the other is passing judgement. Think bringing religion into the discussion just brings the topic into a tailspin. If you do not believe in equality,I do not see how you can truely tolerate homosexuals and diversity.

OK. Next time I'll try to be more specific.

There once was a man who tried to ban religion:



The problem with banning religion is without it, the state will take the place of God. All of the rights we enjoy in the USA and many other places around the globe stem from the concept of a power above the state that must be preserved and not be infringed upon. Without this protection you are nothing more than property. Even if you don't believe in God, the concept itself still protects your rights.

yes , you are completely right..  bible is full of homofobic verses and all of them must be banned because this verses can be motive for hate crimes..

Your English is fine. I have no way of knowing you are just repeating things you have read or if you are advocating for that position unless you specify this.

Are you complaining to me  ?!? Perhaps this is because of my quite far from perfect english, but I thought it's clear that I'm talking about the demands of "some gay activists" what I've found on the net.

First of all, lets not make this personal. I have several gay friends and personally don't have any issues treating them like anyone else. Now that that is aside and we can make this about the topic and not me personally... 

What gives them the right to DEMAND acceptance from anyone? Should they be forced to invite people they don't agree with to their birthday parties? Are you even thinking about what you are typing? This demand is NOT WITHIN THEIR RIGHTS because it INFRINGES UPON THE RIGHTS OF OTHERS. No one has the right to appropriate the rights of others, I don't care how victimized you feel. Everyone has a right to tolerance, everyone DOES NOT have the right to acceptance. They can want it and strive for it all they want, but they DO NOT have a right to demand it and mistreat those who do not give that acceptance. You can not make other people accept what they do not believe in, they have NO RIGHTS to do this, and this behavior is not only extremely hypocritical, but counterproductive to their actual claimed goal of acceptance. Instead this behavior creates even more conflict and resistance leading to less tolerance on BOTH sides of this conflict.

If you read some of those gay activists they are demanding acceptance indeed, as they see tolerance as "not enough". As they claiming mere tolerance is just a passive coexistence without interactions, and such attitude isolating them from the rest of the society. They want you to invite them to your birthday party instead of just smiling and nodding to them while you keep avoiding any closer social interaction.

Right so your telling me someone who went to visit prisoners in jail is getting in trouble for pissing off the SJW or something for reading the bible.
Bunch of pricks there.  (And it's not the prisoners)

On a side-note
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/donald-trump-social-justice-warrior/

We’re beginning a second transition of moral cultures. The first major transition happened in the 18th and 19th centuries when most Western societies moved away from cultures of honor (where people must earn honor and must therefore avenge insults on their own) to cultures of dignity in which people are assumed to have dignity and don’t need to earn it. They foreswear violence, turn to courts or administrative bodies to respond to major transgressions, and for minor transgressions they either ignore them or attempt to resolve them by social means. There’s no more dueling.

Campbell and Manning describe how this culture of dignity is now giving way to a new culture of victimhood in which people are encouraged to respond to even the slightest unintentional offense, as in an honor culture. But they must not obtain redress on their own; they must appeal for help to powerful others or administrative bodies, to whom they must make the case that they have been victimized.

It is the very presence of such administrative bodies, within a culture that is highly egalitarian and diverse (i.e., many college campuses / perhaps even prisons) that gives rise to intense efforts to identify oneself as a fragile and aggrieved victim. This is why we have seen the recent explosion of concerns about microaggressions, combined with demands for trigger warnings and safe spaces.

Read what I stated again carefully. This has nothing to do with what people do in the privacy of their own homes, and everything to do with how they treat people with opposing beliefs IN PUBLIC. Equality first of all is a myth. No one is equal to anyone else, if that were the case we would all have to be clones. Pretending we are all equal strips us all of our uniqueness and individuality. What is a right of all humans however is TOLERANCE. Everyone deserves tolerance regardless of their sexuality or what they believe in as long as everything is consensual and does not infringe upon the rights of others.

What no one has a right to is acceptance. Gay activist groups are DEMANDING acceptance, and no one has a right to demand other people ACCEPT their lifestyles or beliefs because that infringes on the freedoms of others. The kicker is while they demand acceptance they also refuse to even show religious peoples tolerance and actively seek to attack religious peoples and institutions. This is extremely hypocritical. Gay people don't deserve EXTRA rights, they deserve to be treated with tolerance like every other human does, including religious peoples.

@Tecshare

Gay people are only asking for equality, your argument about forcing people to except is thin because you are able tolerate other religions, therefore what some one does in their bedroom should be a lot easier.

Tolerance is not enough. The gay lobby is demanding acceptance. They demand that people accept and condone their lifestyles while not tolerating, accepting, or condoning the lifestyles of religious peoples. Everyone deserves tolerance. No one is entitled to acceptance. Attempting to force people to accept your beliefs and lifestyle is intolerant, and religious people deserve tolerance just as much as homosexuals. This behavior is very intolerant.

Religion is more likely a trigger to offend for these bum bandits. They are sex offenders and one trait they usually have in common is the need to release tension, in this case by sexually offending.
Ask a Catholic priest how that plays into choir selection.

I totally agree. They already know the chaplain will preach against sin from the bible's perspective, so why bring him in if you do not want to hear what he has to say?

Part of the problem is people assume thinking homosexuality is a sin, means they don't like people who do participate in it. It's why "homophobic" now means those who think it's a sin, versus those who are actually afraid of homosexual people or acts.

http://www.thefreedictionary.com/homophobic - "Fear, hatred, or mistrust of lesbians and gay men."

There are plenty of Christians who will get labeled a homophobic even if they are friends with those who are gay, simply because they believe it's a sin.

When Christians say adultery or lying is a sin and have parents or siblings or friends who commit adultery or lie, do they get called afraid of those who commit adultery or lie? It seems silly, right?

World is becoming strange womanly dystopia. I actually like it but I am nervous about future.
Freedom of speech and being free to dislike homosexuality should be rights too.

That is exactly what is going to happen. Soon they will ban all the religious texts, including the Bible, Bhagavad Gita, Torah, Qurán, and Tripitaka. After that, they will ban heterosexual marriage. The Western World, including the United States and the European Union is lost to the deviants. China, Russia and India are going to be the new world superpowers.