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legendary
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September 25, 2021, 01:59:37 PM
#36
Preach!!! Christains should dominate every sector. That is the easiest way we can impact this world.
that impact won't be positive. so no. history speaks for itself. having religious nuts on every corner of politics will just lead to chaos. like I said before, a religious person doesn't mean that person is a good person or will be a good politician

Government, also, is a religion.     Cool
did they change the meaning of religion? or did you just gave it a different meaning to justify your views?

+1

Not only that.  One can turn into a Christian, Jew, or Muslim in a split second.  It means nothing to say I am so and so.

I am all for meritocracy.  I would want the smartest, most skilled people in the government, not some schmucks who can't spell their names, but can say "I am a born again Christian".  

Religious affiliation does not add anything to one's resume.  People who think that it does are not thinking straight.

Ask them: "Should Muslims dominate every sector?"

One might be able to take the name of a a different religion any time he wants. But if it doesn't take a length of time, he is lying. Take yourself for example. You could easily lie and say that you have turned Christian or Jew or Muslim, back and forth any number of times in the hour. But if you haven't been lying about your atheism all along, it would really take a long time for you to truthfully change into one of these three.

Your rant against born again Christians, if you are sincere, shows that you haven't really taken Christianity to heart in examination, no matter how much of it you learned in class.

It's not what is written on a job resume that counts. Rather, it is what is in the heart that counts. Ask yourself, Would you accept a true Christian faster than he would accept you... on the job, or in life? Would you be more fun to work with than the Christian? Which of you, when working together, would cause the better production?

A Muslim is very similar to an atheist. The simple difference is that the Muslim says there is a god. The better acting person is often the atheist, because he has been raised in a generally Christian society. It comes automatically for him, even though he is an atheist.

Cool

If I was hiring someone for a decision-making position, I would not hire anyone who thinks that Earth is 10,000 years old,
that global flood actually happened, that snake could talk or that someone can just create a human from dirt or rib bone.
No matter how good the person might be. 

I would question their education, ability to critically process information, and their judgment.

For a menial job, yeah, no problem.  These irrational beliefs would not matter much unless they would tell me they actually hear
God's voice. That would disqualify them from any job as it would be a clinical symptom of some mental disorder.

BTW, there are many atheists who were born into non-Christian religious cults.
legendary
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September 25, 2021, 11:35:40 AM
#35
Preach!!! Christains should dominate every sector. That is the easiest way we can impact this world.
that impact won't be positive. so no. history speaks for itself. having religious nuts on every corner of politics will just lead to chaos. like I said before, a religious person doesn't mean that person is a good person or will be a good politician

Government, also, is a religion.     Cool
did they change the meaning of religion? or did you just gave it a different meaning to justify your views?

+1

Not only that.  One can turn into a Christian, Jew, or Muslim in a split second.  It means nothing to say I am so and so.

I am all for meritocracy.  I would want the smartest, most skilled people in the government, not some schmucks who can't spell their names, but can say "I am a born again Christian".  

Religious affiliation does not add anything to one's resume.  People who think that it does are not thinking straight.

Ask them: "Should Muslims dominate every sector?"

One might be able to take the name of a a different religion any time he wants. But if it doesn't take a length of time, he is lying. Take yourself for example. You could easily lie and say that you have turned Christian or Jew or Muslim, back and forth any number of times in the hour. But if you haven't been lying about your atheism all along, it would really take a long time for you to truthfully change into one of these three.

Your rant against born again Christians, if you are sincere, shows that you haven't really taken Christianity to heart in examination, no matter how much of it you learned in class.

It's not what is written on a job resume that counts. Rather, it is what is in the heart that counts. Ask yourself, Would you accept a true Christian faster than he would accept you... on the job, or in life? Would you be more fun to work with than the Christian? Which of you, when working together, would cause the better production?

A Muslim is very similar to an atheist. The simple difference is that the Muslim says there is a god. The better acting person is often the atheist, because he has been raised in a generally Christian society. It comes automatically for him, even though he is an atheist.

Cool
hero member
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September 25, 2021, 07:31:00 AM
#34
EVERYONE should participate in politics. People should have a say on how they are governed. However it should be that it can benefit everyone and that would usually mean keeping politics secular, so as not to give one particular creed disproportionate privileges over others.

Christians should be at the forefront of politics and in every field, not just in Africa but all over the world.

Replace "Christians" with "Muslims" and it sound like something ISIS or the Taliban is likely to say. Don't sound like those nutjobs.

they would probably say "I am okay with it" just to save face.

Those are the sort of people that malfunction at statements like "Islam is right about women".  Grin
legendary
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September 25, 2021, 06:32:59 AM
#33
+1

Not only that.  One can turn into a Christian, Jew, or Muslim in a split second.  It means nothing to say I am so and so.

I am all for meritocracy.  I would want the smartest, most skilled people in the government, not some schmucks who can't spell their names, but can say "I am a born again Christian".  

Religious affiliation does not add anything to one's resume.  People who think that it does are not thinking straight.
exactly! it is a little scary that they think that being a Christian and in politics would make the world a better place. I wouldn't be surprised if they said that God and his teachings will show the right path to these "Christian politicians" and lead the world to a better place.

Ask them: "Should Muslims dominate every sector?"
they would probably say "I am okay with it" just to save face.
sr. member
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September 25, 2021, 06:04:08 AM
#32
Politics is a science based culture that emerges from within society to govern by which a particular body or authority governs the state. Not only christians but all people can participate here it will only depend on their mindset not all leaders who participate in politics are bad it is a platform where everyone is involved in corruption by forcing them to be bad. The human race is governed by the state and which creates interrelationships between the people of the society and maintains the balance of power some policies are needed to run the state those principles are politics.
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September 25, 2021, 05:39:16 AM
#31
Christians should be at the forefront of politics and in every field, not just in Africa but all over the world.
Preach!!! Christains should dominate every sector. That is the easiest way we can impact this world.

Does religion has anything to do with how politics works? does christianity makes politics "GOOD"?

Christianity is nothing but a religion that must not be and never be connected to politics. That is why there is always the separation of church and state.
legendary
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September 25, 2021, 04:53:48 AM
#30
Preach!!! Christains should dominate every sector. That is the easiest way we can impact this world.
that impact won't be positive. so no. history speaks for itself. having religious nuts on every corner of politics will just lead to chaos. like I said before, a religious person doesn't mean that person is a good person or will be a good politician

Government, also, is a religion.     Cool
did they change the meaning of religion? or did you just gave it a different meaning to justify your views?

+1

Not only that.  One can turn into a Christian, Jew, or Muslim in a split second.  It means nothing to say I am so and so.

I am all for meritocracy.  I would want the smartest, most skilled people in the government, not some schmucks who can't spell their names, but can say "I am a born again Christian".  

Religious affiliation does not add anything to one's resume.  People who think that it does are not thinking straight.

Ask them: "Should Muslims dominate every sector?"
legendary
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September 25, 2021, 04:32:41 AM
#29
Preach!!! Christains should dominate every sector. That is the easiest way we can impact this world.
that impact won't be positive. so no. history speaks for itself. having religious nuts on every corner of politics will just lead to chaos. like I said before, a religious person doesn't mean that person is a good person or will be a good politician

Government, also, is a religion.     Cool
did they change the meaning of religion? or did you just gave it a different meaning to justify your views?
legendary
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September 24, 2021, 07:43:18 PM
#28
A lot of Christians participate in politics but it's not what will solve everything in governments. No one is really bad in the world. We are all good people who want peace and harmony but we are good people who do bad things. This is because politics is not a platform to show goodness, politics is about ruling and dominance leaders are showing their ruthlessness in this arena.



Christians don't have success, because down deep they are telling themselves they are not worthy of having success, because of their sins.

Unbelievers have success because they don't have a clear recognition of their sins, and so, don't feel as guilty, and therefore as unworthy to have their success as Christians do.

The problem with Christians is that they are barely more or less believing than unbelievers. Jesus said in Matthew:
7“Ask and it will be given to you; seek and you will find; knock and the door will be opened to you. 8For everyone who asks receives; the one who seeks finds; and to the one who knocks, the door will be opened."

Jesus was talking to the weak believers of His day. But they still didn't get it. So, He continued with:
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If you, then, though you are evil, know how to give good gifts to your children, how much more will your Father in heaven give good gifts to those who ask him!

He told them that they were evil, but that their Heavenly Father still gave them good gifts. Why? Because they and everybody are forgiven in Jesus. All people ARE worthy through Jesus to have good gifts... essentially whatever they ask for, seek, and knock. It's just that they don't know it, or maybe believe it.

Then Jesus warns them that they are not going to get the good gifts if they sin, because they will feel so unworthy that they won't ask in faith that they CAN receive. He continues:
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So in everything, do to others what you would have them do to you, for this sums up the Law and the Prophets.

So I tell you. Stop sinning (even though all is forgiven), so that you don't have anything to feel guilty about, so that you are not blocked in your asking. That's why Isaiah says, Isaiah 59:2:
But your iniquities have separated you from your God; your sins have hidden his face from you, so that he will not hear.

It's not that God is withholding forgiveness. It's that you feel so guilty that you don't feel worthy of the forgiveness, and you reject it. And when you don't feel worthy, you also don't feel worthy that your prayers should be answered, "Ask and it will be given to you..."

So, be forgiven in Jesus, sin no longer so that you don't reject your forgiveness, then get into politics and government and have success in everything you do.

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September 24, 2021, 07:02:38 PM
#27
A lot of Christians participate in politics but it's not what will solve everything in governments. No one is really bad in the world. We are all good people who want peace and harmony but we are good people who do bad things. This is because politics is not a platform to show goodness, politics is about ruling and dominance leaders are showing their ruthlessness in this arena.

sr. member
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September 24, 2021, 06:57:15 PM
#26
Christians should be at the forefront of politics and in every field, not just in Africa but all over the world.
Preach!!! Christains should dominate every sector. That is the easiest way we can impact this world.
Very correct,christians can also have impact on the world by showing good examples to others.Doing good always and making positive impact on every sector of the society.Christians sometime believe they are not part of the things of the world,they tend to isolate themselves,but taking part in the things of the world like politics,showing good examples to world and the people around us will help in spreading the gospel.
legendary
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September 24, 2021, 06:37:54 PM
#25
The world today is suffering because alot of Christians don't participate in Today politics, especially in Africa, they see politics as a sin a thing of the devil, when the bad people become leaders they complain and keep praying, it's high time Christian leaders start participating in Politics, The perspective should change, and the world will be a better Nation, E.G Abraham Lincoln was a Christian leader who involved in politics and he was able to defeat all his enemies physically and spiritually.

Let's keep religion out of politics and out of government.  

Keep your preferred ancient myth to yourself and your psychiatrist.

Nobody needs to hear about your delusion.

All you are doing is trying to push your religion as the only religion in government. The First Amendment has as it first part of importance, religious freedom. What that means is that religion is in government, in all its forms, so that there is basic freedom for all.

I'm not asking you to admit that you are anti-American.

Cool

Religious freedom implies freedom from religion.  
You are free to practice whatever religion you want, but not to force your religious beliefs on others.
That is not freedom, that is religious despotism.

Government should be secular so that it can remain impartial to any religion.

Nobody is banning your religion.  
Build as many mosques, synagogues, churches as you want, as long as you don't commit any crimes
(child molestation, underage sex, physical abuse, fraud, tax evasion) you can practice any religion you want.  

That is what religious freedom means.

Secular government guarantees that religious freedom.  

Government, also, is a religion.     Cool
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September 24, 2021, 03:47:05 PM
#24
Christians should be at the forefront of politics and in every field, not just in Africa but all over the world.
Preach!!! Christains should dominate every sector. That is the easiest way we can impact this world.
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September 24, 2021, 03:21:38 PM
#23
Christians should be at the forefront of politics and in every field, not just in Africa but all over the world.

The world today is suffering because alot of Christians don't participate in Today politics, especially in Africa, they see politics as a sin a thing of the devil, when the bad people become leaders they complain and keep praying, it's high time Christian leaders start participating in Politics, The perspective should change, and the world will be a better Nation, E.G Abraham Lincoln was a Christian leader who involved in politics and he was able to defeat all his enemies physically and spiritually.
legendary
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September 24, 2021, 03:14:39 PM
#22
The world today is suffering because alot of Christians don't participate in Today politics, especially in Africa, they see politics as a sin a thing of the devil, when the bad people become leaders they complain and keep praying, it's high time Christian leaders start participating in Politics, The perspective should change, and the world will be a better Nation, E.G Abraham Lincoln was a Christian leader who involved in politics and he was able to defeat all his enemies physically and spiritually.

Let's keep religion out of politics and out of government.  

Keep your preferred ancient myth to yourself and your psychiatrist.

Nobody needs to hear about your delusion.

All you are doing is trying to push your religion as the only religion in government. The First Amendment has as it first part of importance, religious freedom. What that means is that religion is in government, in all its forms, so that there is basic freedom for all.

I'm not asking you to admit that you are anti-American.

Cool

Religious freedom implies freedom from religion.  
You are free to practice whatever religion you want, but not to force your religious beliefs on others.
That is not freedom, that is religious despotism.

Government should be secular so that it can remain impartial to any religion.

Nobody is banning your religion.  
Build as many mosques, synagogues, churches as you want, as long as you don't commit any crimes
(child molestation, underage sex, physical abuse, fraud, tax evasion) you can practice any religion you want.  

That is what religious freedom means.

Secular government guarantees that religious freedom.  
legendary
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September 24, 2021, 12:51:28 PM
#21
The world today is suffering because alot of Christians don't participate in Today politics, especially in Africa, they see politics as a sin a thing of the devil, when the bad people become leaders they complain and keep praying, it's high time Christian leaders start participating in Politics, The perspective should change, and the world will be a better Nation, E.G Abraham Lincoln was a Christian leader who involved in politics and he was able to defeat all his enemies physically and spiritually.

Let's keep religion out of politics and out of government.  

Keep your preferred ancient myth to yourself and your psychiatrist.

Nobody needs to hear about your delusion.

All you are doing is trying to push your religion as the only religion in government. The First Amendment has as it first part of importance, religious freedom. What that means is that religion is in government, in all its forms, so that there is basic freedom for all.

I'm not asking you to admit that you are anti-American.

Cool
legendary
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September 24, 2021, 10:56:55 AM
#20
The world today is suffering because alot of Christians don't participate in Today politics, especially in Africa, they see politics as a sin a thing of the devil, when the bad people become leaders they complain and keep praying, it's high time Christian leaders start participating in Politics, The perspective should change, and the world will be a better Nation, E.G Abraham Lincoln was a Christian leader who involved in politics and he was able to defeat all his enemies physically and spiritually.

Let's keep religion out of politics and out of government.  

Keep your preferred ancient myth to yourself and your psychiatrist.

Nobody needs to hear about your delusion.
legendary
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September 24, 2021, 09:49:30 AM
#19
for hundreds of years.. religion was government.. then some decided they needed something different. which is why politics came about

having 'god' as president where no one can question his motives nor question his messengers (the real leaders) made for a totalitarian and tyranical leadership. you cant de-throne 'god' because you cant even see where he sits to throw him off the seat

so people decided to get away from those countries and start new countries with new laws. not controlled by religion

government is suppose to be a different option than religion and only mention religion to pander to religious people to win them over to politics.

if government absorbs religion fully then it will cause more issues than benefits for people.

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September 24, 2021, 09:26:20 AM
#18
The world today is suffering because alot of Christians don't participate in Today politics, especially in Africa, they see politics as a sin a thing of the devil, when the bad people become leaders they complain and keep praying, it's high time Christian leaders start participating in Politics, The perspective should change, and the world will be a better Nation, E.G Abraham Lincoln was a Christian leader who involved in politics and he was able to defeat all his enemies physically and spiritually.

Not just Christian's alone..but I feel religious people are running away from politics thinking that it's for the unbelievers ( people who are non religious). But I believe if religious people who have the fear of God in them should be into politics. There will be little hope in good leadership
legendary
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September 24, 2021, 08:58:51 AM
#17
damn, that sounds like a nightmare. I don't trust politicians and I don't trust religions(any type) and now you want a religious nut to join the national politics?

I agree with mu_enrico, not enough good people are joining the politics. no offense to you @OP but being a religious person doesn't make a person automatically good or automatically be a good politician.
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