We have more players now, you can see the total tickets sold if you check the raffle info
raffle.win-bits.com
Ill update this post today with new info
Topic: ☱☱☱☃CHRISTMAS ฿ITCOIN JACKPOT☃☱☱☱ ESCROW=SFR10 PROVABLY FAIR THANKS to Darkstar_ (Read 1785 times)
January 13, 2017, 02:49:43 AM
January 12, 2017, 04:16:59 PM
It seems that everybody is waiting for more players
Or not ?
Or not ?
January 12, 2017, 01:27:42 PM
thanks for the patiance
January 12, 2017, 12:28:04 PM
As discussed via PM (full refund since aside from one user on each category, no one else purchased a ticket since last month):
Participants:
And for excess fee that I received:
Refunded accordingly: https://blockchain.info/tx/8749cad4189b5a49f3612371f7d453a20212eff03f47f89959ccd53f0b466833
Participants:
You can send mine to this address
1RaLk3SNWLjjrD6VNGCNzLM4N7JjhHwhp
Thank You!
1RaLk3SNWLjjrD6VNGCNzLM4N7JjhHwhp
Thank You!
1Jbh3nUvkVauVCx6uRg1XK1upsejmcdLYb
thnk you.
thnk you.
And for excess fee that I received:
Oke thanks you can send it to 1CmfxCTkKTRkM7JPNvgfdA9iCuzuUo97mf
Regards
Regards
Refunded accordingly: https://blockchain.info/tx/8749cad4189b5a49f3612371f7d453a20212eff03f47f89959ccd53f0b466833
December 26, 2016, 04:38:18 PM
Big updates coming this week! stay tuned and merry christmass to all
December 21, 2016, 05:27:04 AM
MOVED from url ! same rules. same wallet. same escrow. just better and more secure domain!
December 21, 2016, 01:39:45 AM
Post update on how the draw will be held. Now its ready and provably fair ! Good luck everyone ! will give away 5x 0.001BTC for this game this week!
December 16, 2016, 12:59:11 AM
Had no time to update post yesterday. Working on it right now!
December 15, 2016, 11:35:08 AM
Provably fair system rules will be posted soon. im testing it with next mined blocks
December 15, 2016, 05:42:12 AM
You are welcome to help with a better provably system if you now any, i understand the people there are allot of scams around... i just want to create something that brings people to my website's.. I can let someone very trusted from the forum here let do the draw. or the escrow can do the draw.. i dont think random.org will cheat cause they have nothing to win here .. anyway im not planning to cheat or steal a penny from someone so all provably systems are welcome !
regards
regards
random.org probably won't cheat. The problem is, they can cheat. The escrow probably won't cheat. However, they can cheat by making an alt account and causing their alt to win. All of these scenarios probably can't be proven, so there will can be doubt. If you want to make it provably fair, I think the method I proposed for sportsbet.io would work here.
Basically, when the draw is all filled up or you decide to draw it, call out a block number for bitcoin, that hasn't been mined yet. Post it here, don't edit your post, perhaps set the planned block time to after an hour (+6 current block). Wait for the block to be mined. Take the last X digits of the block hash, convert from hex to decimal, and apply modulus(participants) + 1 to get the winning number. Assign people numbers by the order in which they deposited by. Make sure the X digit is known beforehand.
I'll use the block that was just mined as an example, which is block 443498. The hash of that block is
Code:
0000000000000000035122f08b73c93bef90529e13cc52a55480fa4c8448cc9c
For the example, I'll take the last 7 digits, being 448cc9c. It converts to 71879836. If there were 10 participants, I'd apply modulus 10 and add 1 to the result. 71879836 mod 10 = 6. 6+1 = 7, meaning the 7th person would win.
Thanks for this info darkstar its very helpfull.
So for the draw we will use this system i hope all participants are oke with this so we can have a honest christmas jackpot game and maybe create some bigger ones after some rounds. Ill update this post today with complete info on how the draw will be held.
December 14, 2016, 05:00:47 PM
You are welcome to help with a better provably system if you now any, i understand the people there are allot of scams around... i just want to create something that brings people to my website's.. I can let someone very trusted from the forum here let do the draw. or the escrow can do the draw.. i dont think random.org will cheat cause they have nothing to win here .. anyway im not planning to cheat or steal a penny from someone so all provably systems are welcome !
regards
regards
random.org probably won't cheat. The problem is, they can cheat. The escrow probably won't cheat. However, they can cheat by making an alt account and causing their alt to win. All of these scenarios probably can't be proven, so there will can be doubt. If you want to make it provably fair, I think the method I proposed for sportsbet.io would work here.
Basically, when the draw is all filled up or you decide to draw it, call out a block number for bitcoin, that hasn't been mined yet. Post it here, don't edit your post, perhaps set the planned block time to after an hour (+6 current block). Wait for the block to be mined. Take the last X digits of the block hash, convert from hex to decimal, and apply modulus(participants) + 1 to get the winning number. Assign people numbers by the order in which they deposited by. Make sure the X digit is known beforehand.
I'll use the block that was just mined as an example, which is block 443498. The hash of that block is
Code:
0000000000000000035122f08b73c93bef90529e13cc52a55480fa4c8448cc9c
For the example, I'll take the last 7 digits, being 448cc9c. It converts to 71879836. If there were 10 participants, I'd apply modulus 10 and add 1 to the result. 71879836 mod 10 = 6. 6+1 = 7, meaning the 7th person would win.
December 14, 2016, 03:17:59 AM
Notarizing the ticket list: Before a draw all participating tickets (tx id's) are collected into a file. The file is created by the escrow
Notarizing the draw: the draw is done on Random.org, the drawing is attested by Notary Virtual Service At the end of the run the draw and the notary records are publishes
Record draws on blockchain: All drawings shall be recorded in the blockchain to stay for good!
This procedure ensures that the Lucky Numbers Bitcoin lottery is fair and proveably.
Not provably fair. It's very easy for you to re-draw with the service as you are allowed to do as many as you want AFAIK, and you can participate using an alt account, keep drawing, until you win. It isn't what I would call "fair", because the site could cheat, random.org could cheat and you can cheat. Please learn what provably fair really is. I can help you with a provably fair method if you'd like.Notarizing the draw: the draw is done on Random.org, the drawing is attested by Notary Virtual Service At the end of the run the draw and the notary records are publishes
Record draws on blockchain: All drawings shall be recorded in the blockchain to stay for good!
This procedure ensures that the Lucky Numbers Bitcoin lottery is fair and proveably.
regards
You could use bitcoin block hashes to generate random numbers. Perhaps set a time and date when you will be choosing the winner and pick the next block after that time. Then apply some kind of an algorithm (similar to those on dice sites) to generate a number using the bitcoin block hash. This is how Rollin.io does their lottery (details on their site). I'm not 100% sure I understood all of it correctly but there's plenty of people with more insight on the forum that could help you out.
December 14, 2016, 01:09:02 AM
Notarizing the ticket list: Before a draw all participating tickets (tx id's) are collected into a file. The file is created by the escrow
Notarizing the draw: the draw is done on Random.org, the drawing is attested by Notary Virtual Service At the end of the run the draw and the notary records are publishes
Record draws on blockchain: All drawings shall be recorded in the blockchain to stay for good!
This procedure ensures that the Lucky Numbers Bitcoin lottery is fair and proveably.
Not provably fair. It's very easy for you to re-draw with the service as you are allowed to do as many as you want AFAIK, and you can participate using an alt account, keep drawing, until you win. It isn't what I would call "fair", because the site could cheat, random.org could cheat and you can cheat. Please learn what provably fair really is. I can help you with a provably fair method if you'd like.Notarizing the draw: the draw is done on Random.org, the drawing is attested by Notary Virtual Service At the end of the run the draw and the notary records are publishes
Record draws on blockchain: All drawings shall be recorded in the blockchain to stay for good!
This procedure ensures that the Lucky Numbers Bitcoin lottery is fair and proveably.
regards
December 14, 2016, 12:52:16 AM
Notarizing the ticket list: Before a draw all participating tickets (tx id's) are collected into a file. The file is created by the escrow
Notarizing the draw: the draw is done on Random.org, the drawing is attested by Notary Virtual Service At the end of the run the draw and the notary records are publishes
Record draws on blockchain: All drawings shall be recorded in the blockchain to stay for good!
This procedure ensures that the Lucky Numbers Bitcoin lottery is fair and proveably.
Not provably fair. It's very easy for you to re-draw with the service as you are allowed to do as many as you want AFAIK, and you can participate using an alt account, keep drawing, until you win. It isn't what I would call "fair", because the site could cheat, random.org could cheat and you can cheat. Please learn what provably fair really is. I can help you with a provably fair method if you'd like.Notarizing the draw: the draw is done on Random.org, the drawing is attested by Notary Virtual Service At the end of the run the draw and the notary records are publishes
Record draws on blockchain: All drawings shall be recorded in the blockchain to stay for good!
This procedure ensures that the Lucky Numbers Bitcoin lottery is fair and proveably.
I second this.
There's plenty of ways you can do this so that nobody can alter the results. This could be done by utilizing the blockchain for example. Perhaps Darkstar will go more into detail though
December 13, 2016, 09:09:54 PM
Notarizing the ticket list: Before a draw all participating tickets (tx id's) are collected into a file. The file is created by the escrow
Notarizing the draw: the draw is done on Random.org, the drawing is attested by Notary Virtual Service At the end of the run the draw and the notary records are publishes
Record draws on blockchain: All drawings shall be recorded in the blockchain to stay for good!
This procedure ensures that the Lucky Numbers Bitcoin lottery is fair and proveably.
Not provably fair. It's very easy for you to re-draw with the service as you are allowed to do as many as you want AFAIK, and you can participate using an alt account, keep drawing, until you win. It isn't what I would call "fair", because the site could cheat, random.org could cheat and you can cheat. Please learn what provably fair really is. I can help you with a provably fair method if you'd like. Notarizing the draw: the draw is done on Random.org, the drawing is attested by Notary Virtual Service At the end of the run the draw and the notary records are publishes
Record draws on blockchain: All drawings shall be recorded in the blockchain to stay for good!
This procedure ensures that the Lucky Numbers Bitcoin lottery is fair and proveably.
December 13, 2016, 01:49:24 PM
Good to see the funds is escrowed but did I miss something here on how the winner will be chosen? I only see "will put the txid on randomizer" What kind of randomizer? Can we verify the draw of the winner? Just to make sure it is a provably fair lottery, otherwise the use of escrow will be useless if it is not provably fair.
Notarizing the ticket list: Before a draw all participating tickets (tx id's) are collected into a file. The file is created by the escrow
Notarizing the draw: the draw is done on Random.org, the drawing is attested by Notary Virtual Service At the end of the run the draw and the notary records are publishes
Record draws on blockchain: All drawings shall be recorded in the blockchain to stay for good!
This procedure ensures that the Lucky Numbers Bitcoin lottery is fair and proveably.
Me or the escrow will NOT participate into this game. its 100% for the bitcointalk members only!
good luck
December 13, 2016, 01:40:55 PM
I appreciate SFR for taking this job. sometimes some escrow do not have time for taking this type of escrow and do not care that for the owner of the game and for the participants it is a much important business. Good Luck all
December 13, 2016, 01:20:49 PM
Good to see the funds is escrowed but did I miss something here on how the winner will be chosen? I only see "will put the txid on randomizer" What kind of randomizer? Can we verify the draw of the winner? Just to make sure it is a provably fair lottery, otherwise the use of escrow will be useless if it is not provably fair.
December 13, 2016, 11:34:46 AM
Name: a14m
Transaction link: https://blockchain.info/tx/52116b1756c9963b67a53dc1db06078ca4b254ac8b683eef26ebd38036ab69a7
email: [email protected]
Why have you send the 0.01BTC to the donation address instead of mine?Transaction link: https://blockchain.info/tx/52116b1756c9963b67a53dc1db06078ca4b254ac8b683eef26ebd38036ab69a7
email: [email protected]
WinBIts could you delete the donation address, it's clearly misleading users.
https://blockchain.info/tx/01adca66dae98465dfcf1719147d12f51f1f47e83f44876913c4177c05899cc9
December 13, 2016, 11:30:34 AM
Name : ralle14
Tx link : https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/tx/5d3ea92e0d2e3c2ebdc3731eb00edb9595db58703359768126985be54dde69a5
email : [email protected]
Is it okay to buy more tickets in the future ? As long as each user don't exceed on 10 tickets?
yes thats no problem, just be sure you make 1 transaction at the time and dont forget to send your tx link in this thread Tx link : https://tradeblock.com/bitcoin/tx/5d3ea92e0d2e3c2ebdc3731eb00edb9595db58703359768126985be54dde69a5
email : [email protected]
Is it okay to buy more tickets in the future ? As long as each user don't exceed on 10 tickets?
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