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legendary
Activity: 1876
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July 25, 2019, 03:02:58 PM
#10
The OP did not move the BCH until after the fork with BSV. Therefore the BSV may have been replayed and the output is now assigned to one of the private keys in the ledger.

There is a small chance that the transaction has been replayed since OP moved his BCH coins a few months after the BSV fork. Wasn't someone replaying all the transactions deliberately right after the fork happened?

It is a pity that neither the BCH nor the BSV team will implement replay protection.

Bitcoin Cash developers have no obligation to implement the replay protection. Would you demand the same from Bitcoin Core developers for each fork?
legendary
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Merit: 1828
July 25, 2019, 02:56:24 PM
#9

Based on what you wrote, BSV coins are stored in your Electrum wallet while BCH ones are on the Ledger. This makes things a lot of easier because there is no risk of losing coins involved. Download Electrum SV, import the private key there and move your coins wherever you want. Your Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash coins are safe and nothing will happen to them because they are stored in a different wallet.

The OP did not move the BCH until after the fork with BSV. Therefore the BSV may have been replayed and the output is now assigned to one of the private keys in the ledger. It is a pity that neither the BCH nor the BSV team will implement replay protection.
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 3132
July 25, 2019, 02:44:42 PM
#8
When would it be safe to claim it without an issue?

You can claim your BSV coins as long as you follow a few simple steps. Neither Bitcoin Cash nor Bitcoin SV will implement replay protection, so there is no point in waiting.

So based on that, is my BCH in electrum or nano ledger s?

Based on what you wrote, BSV coins are stored in your Electrum wallet while BCH ones are on the Ledger. This makes things a lot of easier because there is no risk of losing coins involved. Download Electrum SV, import the private key there and move your coins wherever you want. Your Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash coins are safe and nothing will happen to them because they are stored in a different wallet.
full member
Activity: 1750
Merit: 186
July 25, 2019, 02:40:15 PM
#7
Oh wait I think i phrased a few things incorrectly.


So this is to confirm.



I kept my bitcoin in electrum.  My bitcoin was in electrum when the bitcoin cash and bitcoin gold fork happened.  I did not claim my bitcoin cash or gold until much later.



A while later, i got a nano ledger s.  I then sent my bitcoin to my nano ledger s.  Then when the Bitcoin SV fork happened, my bitcoin was in my nano ledger s still.  I still did not claim my bitcoin cash when the bitcoin SV fork happened.  It wasn't until few months ago, I then downloaded electroncash and then claimed my bitcoin cash from it.  Then i sent the bitcoin cash to my nano ledger s.  So i have bitcoin and bitcoin cash in my nano ledger s.



So based on that, is my BCH in electrum or nano ledger s?


full member
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July 25, 2019, 02:35:02 PM
#6
Hi there, i don't know anything about replay protection.


So you mean if i don't know what im doing, then i can screw it up?  


Well im sure there are other ppl that did not claim their bitcoin cash yet still right?  Let say they also had their btc in electrum as well but still as of now didn't claim bitcoin cash yet.  Then say they download electroncash and claim bitcoin cash.  So the way they now will claim bitcoin sv is same as me?  So most ppl have not claimed their bitcoin SV or something then?  When would it be safe to claim it without an issue?  That is one of the reasons i didn't claim my bitcoin cash till much much later because of fake bitcoin cash wallets etc.
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 3132
July 25, 2019, 02:34:21 PM
#5
No i did not claim my bitcoin cash until earlier few months ago.  Thus when the BSV fork happened on that date you mentioned, I still didn't claim my bitcoin cash yet.  Is that a problem or not?

It's not a problem because those coins were on your (BCH) address at the time of the fork. It doesn't matter when you access them.

But I didn't claim my bitcoin cash using electron cash until few months ago.  So would there be issue with this or not?  Someone mentioned even if you didn't claim bitcoin cash... your bitcoin cash is still in the electroncash waiting to be claimed?

If you had BCH in Electrum at the time of the fork then download Electrum SV and you will be able to move those coins. Things will get a little bit more difficult if they were stored on Ledger.
full member
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July 25, 2019, 02:30:57 PM
#4
Hi.  Yes i know bitcoin SV is a bitcoin cash fork. 


No i did not claim my bitcoin cash until earlier few months ago.  Thus when the BSV fork happened on that date you mentioned, I still didn't claim my bitcoin cash yet.  Is that a problem or not?  Because I read other ppl say that is no issue.  So are they wrong or not?


Thus had i claimed my bitcoin cash before the bitcoin SV fork happened and did not sell it and say kept my bitcoin cash in electroncash or nano ledger s, then i know you can claim the bitcoin SV.  But I didn't claim my bitcoin cash using electron cash until few months ago.  So would there be issue with this or not?  Someone mentioned even if you didn't claim bitcoin cash... your bitcoin cash is still in the electroncash waiting to be claimed?


legendary
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bitcoindata.science
July 25, 2019, 02:21:00 PM
#3
Your text a bit confused...

Bitcoin SV is a Bitcoin Cash (BCH) Fork.

In other word, did you have BCH when the BSV fork took place? It was in November 15 of 2018. You need to have BCH in your wallet by that date. Did you have it, or did you already traded it to BTC by that time?

If you want to claim SV fork you need to be cautious, because BSV doesn't have replay protection, so you can spend both your coins without noticing. I don't know exactly how do you claim it, but Coinomi Wallet does support both forks and I thnk it is safe to claim from there (I would try in coinomi).

I found this link from Coinomi about this:

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About replay protection:

There is no replay protection between the BCH (ABC) and the BSV chains. This means that, unless you properly "split" your coins, transactions you make with one of those coins will also be made on the other.

Sending unsplit BCH will result in the same amount of BSV being sent to the same address (and vice-versa). The receiving wallet may not be prepared to accept BSV into their address, so there is a possibility of loss of BSV coins. This is not an issue specific to Coinomi, as any other wallet you use is under the same risk.

How to split coins:

Splitting is only necessary if you had a positive BCH balance on November 15th 2018. If you received either BCH or BSV after that date, they are most likely already split.

Receive a new deposit into your BCH wallet of BCH that is already split. The easiest way is to receive BCH from an exchange.
After transaction from (1) is confirmed, copy your current BCH "receive" address and send your full BCH balance to it.
Done. This should be enough for your coins to be split. This process only has to be done once. After your coins are split, they are split forever, and further deposits you receive will also most likely already be split.

How to claim BSV coins:


Only do this if your coins are already split, otherwise the transaction will happen with both coins.
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https://coinomi.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/29000026274-bch-abc-bsv-fork-information-splitting
legendary
Activity: 1876
Merit: 3132
July 25, 2019, 02:19:39 PM
#2
But what if you did not claim bitcoin cash yet at the time of the bitcoin sv fork?  Someone mentioned a while back you still get bitcoin SV... can someone confirm this?  

Nothing. It doesn't matter if you accessed BCH wallet before or after the fork. If the private key was in your possesion at the time of BSV fork then you have both coins.

I know back then when i asked about bitcoin cash claiming, people said there was no time limit to when you could claim it as it would always be in that address.  But what about bitcoin SV?

There is no time limit in this case.

Again, I claimed my bitcoin cash from electroncash... but this was after the bitcoin SV fork.

Your Bitcoin SV coins should still be available if the transaction was not replayed. Try downloading Electrum SV and importing the private key. There is no risk involved since you have already moved all of your funds to your Ledger device.

Im also curious but would this method to claim bitcoin SV be difference if say someone kept their btc in their nano ledger s or another type of wallet like electrum but still did not claim bitcoin cash

It looks like Electrum SV supports hardware devices so users would be able to access their wallets using it. However, there is no replay protection so Bitcoin Cash coins can be stolen if users don't take appriopriate steps. Note that Bitcoin SV has not implemented replay protection and that's why Ledger doesn't support it natively.
full member
Activity: 1750
Merit: 186
July 25, 2019, 02:01:51 PM
#1
I kept btc in electrum when the bitcoin cash and bitcoin gold fork happened.  It wasn't till a while later that i got a nano ledger s that i then sent btc from my electrum to nano ledger s.



I claimed my bitcoin cash much much later as i wanted to know how things were before i did it.  I did this with electroncash.  This was not that that long ago.  Then sent the bitcoin cash to my nano ledger s.  I still have not claimed my bitcoin gold yet.  I read that i can use coinomi for this. 



How do i claim my bitcoin SV assuming when the bitcoin SV fork happened... i did not claim my bitcoin cash yet?  For example those ppl that already claimed their bitcoin cash a long time ago and say kept it in an exchange or electroncash, well there is a way to claim it since there is a place their bitcoin cash was at.  But what if you did not claim bitcoin cash yet at the time of the bitcoin sv fork?  Someone mentioned a while back you still get bitcoin SV... can someone confirm this? 



So basically the bitcoin cash would be located in electroncash at the time of the bitcoin SV fork?



Also im sure there are ppl out there that had btc at the time of the bitcoin cash and gold fork and still have not claimed their bitcoin cash or gold yet due to whatever reason.  These people still can get bitcoin SV in the future right?  I know back then when i asked about bitcoin cash claiming, people said there was no time limit to when you could claim it as it would always be in that address.  But what about bitcoin SV?



Can someone who claimed bitcoin SV that is in a similar situation tell me how did they do it?  Again, I claimed my bitcoin cash from electroncash... but this was after the bitcoin SV fork.  Im also curious but would this method to claim bitcoin SV be difference if say someone kept their btc in their nano ledger s or another type of wallet like electrum but still did not claim bitcoin cash yet?
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