Topic: Classic Multibit 0.5.18 recovery with 16 words passphrase help please - page 2. (Read 515 times)

Hello,

That's all so weird the 16 words recovery phrase enigma....

I still have my broken laptop with me (which has the initial wallet where it was originally set up).

Have you heard of successful bitcoin recovery?
What do you think of this:
https://www.mjm.co.uk/specialist-services/bitcoin-recovery.html

Or, is somebody aware of trustworthy recovery service or bitcoin expert I could contact and could help me?

I live in London - Great Britain.

Thank you
Nicky

100% that your 16 words did not come from Multibit Classic nor Multibit HD.

16 words sounds like an old blockchain.info (now blockchain.com) password recovery phrase... especially given that none of the words are in the BIP39 list. The blockchain.info legacy password recovery used a completely different list to BIP39.

You can check your 16 words against the ones in this (very long) list: https://github.com/blockchain/unused-My-Wallet/blob/ddbb0995fbdb2b5f22bef9eb92a26e2bfefb6e00/mnemonic_words_v3.html


Note that this 16 word "recovery" phrase will NOT recover your wallet. It will only recover the password to your wallet.

Refer: https://login.blockchain.com/wallet/forgot-password


Unfortunately, if you don't have the original wallet.aes.json backup file from blockchain.info or some record of the "wallet id", then this 16 word phrase will be of very little use to you. Given that your old computer is "dead", then I'm going to guess you don't have the wallet.aes.json file...

Do you perhaps have access to the email address that was registered to blockchain.info and/or an old email from blockchain.info stored in your email account with either a record of your wallet-id or perhaps even an email with a copy of the wallet.aes.json backup file attached?

Another idea: can this 16 word list be the recovery for a Blockchain.info old wallet?
I don't know what words they have been using...

Hi BlackHatCoiner,

Yes, they are. All of them. Like: newborn or pinpoint....

I was wondering if it would be worth considering using a 'bitcoin recovering data services' here in London to get professional to look into my broken laptop which has the initial Multibit Wallet. Maybe, from there the data recovery expert would be able to get my private keys and with this I could then use it to get my bitcoin in Electrum?

Problem is that would be difficult to trust somebody to do that: there might be some scams out there to take advance of people stuck technically and steal their bitcoins.... Or to end up with somebody who claim they can recover and they cannot, then the broken laptop would become totally redundant even for recovery...

Any recommendation on that very welcome.

I am so lost.

Whatever the outcome of all of this, I am immensely grateful to all of you in this forum who has kindly been trying to help me with my problem.

Thank you
Nicky

This sounds weird. And they're all in the english dictionary?

Hi BlackHatCoiner,

Thank you for the link.

I have checked all my 16 words from my phrase with the tip of Ctrl+F and none of my words are in this list. So, I tried all of them, and for each of them I had a sound (like an error sound) as word couldn't be found each time...

Don't know what that's mean at all...

Thank you
Nicky

Could it be 15 words plus a passphrase?

Nicky, is there ANY word from your seed phrase that isn't included in this list: https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0039/english.txt ? (You can search the list with Ctrl+F5)

I'll answer your last post first, and I can confirm that your link really shows the MultiBit Classic version of the wallet, and this is what the MultiBit HD version looks like :



However, if we know that the Classic version did not have the ability to create a seed, and that the HD version had a seed of 12/18 words, I wonder how it is possible that you have a seed consisting of 16 words

Hello,

This is how my multibit wallet looks like:


https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/MultiBit


So, if somebody has the same layout, they can confirm if this is classic or HD.

Thank you.
Nicky

Hello,

I thought that I had Multibit classic, but after reading all posts, I am not sure anymore. I tried to copy the layout of my Multibit via Snipping tool in this post, but I didn't manage... Sorry about this. However, it seems that with Multibit HD seems more common to recover bitcoin, so I hope this is what I have.

Lucius: No, can't find the may who helped us back in 2014 to set up the wallet and told us to keep those 16 words. It was a 'one day event' that you book through meeting website for events with people of similar interest. This one was for novice people willing to have help to get a wallet with Multibit.
I can however, remember very well that he said that those 16 words were to be kept in case we had to recover the wallet and those words in we loose it, we was like loosing our bitcoin and we needed them to recover the bitcoin if needed.

NeuroticFish: It flash each word in orange and offers me an alternative word instead. How weird. I could understand if I written badly one word (because of one wrong letter) but it does that for each of them... I tried to replace with the alternative suggested for few words, but it keep going on. So I got back to my initial words (the way I wrote them) ignoring words suggested to see.
Then I went to the Derivation Path section and selected 'Multibit HB' in client: I have in orange top of the page the message: 'Invalid Root Key'.

Thank you again for your time and help. I really appreciate also your patience...

Nicky

I can only confirm that I used MultiBit Classic and that this crypto wallet did not have the option to backup through seed, but the only options were to copy the wallet file or to extract the private keys that the wallet generates and keep them safe. Is there any way to contact that man and try to find out exactly what those 16 words represent?

The fact there's the orange text is not good.
Let's try with what it suggest, or maybe you can find yourself any alternative good word, based on what you see in that handwriting.
The point is to try all you can until you find an address that has either funds, either transactions.

Is "xxxx" the 16th word of your seed phrase? I'm afraid that the seed phrase was generated with Multibit HD and not with Classic. As NeuroticFish said, in Classic there wasn't such option. Using a single seed to generate addresses was then included in HD ^{(hierarchical deterministic)} which makes much more sense to me now. Nicky, are you sure that it was the Classic one that gave you these 16 words?

If it flags you a message in that orange frame it means that you've entered something invalid. As you said, you've entered a word that doesn't exist in the Multibit's wordlist.

Hi NeuroticFish,

Thank you so so so much for all your help and time.

I managed to copy the folder in my desktop (thanks for advising me on that, this was very clear) and to open the Mnemonic Code Converter which looks exactly like your screenshot! So, that's good.

I have entered my 16 words and I have one that is flagged in 'orange' and I am given an alternative option saying that this word doesn't exist in the wordlist.  Message is xxxx is not in the worldlist, do you mean xxxx ?

Should I keep the word the way I entered it (but I have the orange flag) or should I replace it with the word they suggest which has one letter different (maybe I wrote it wrong in the first place, my hand writing is quite bad...)?

I understand that you have to go, but again, thank you so much for your help.

As I am stuck, I would wait for whenever I can get addition help to carry on the process, if you are back tomorrow, I would be happy to follow up with your kind help. I really appreciate.

Thank you and waiting for next step. Again, I have one word which shows in 'orange' on top right.

Thank you so much
Nicky

Good news is: the page tool for Mnemonic looks exactly like yours, so I have the good one...

This is not a big problem. The actual problem is that I have to go, so either somebody takes this over, either we continue sometime else (I'll be online again tomorrow, but I can't tell when)


Basically you have to drag and drop that folder from the downloaded archive anywhere else, like for example the desktop.
Although it's not exactly the same situation as for you, I hope that this helps.

https://www.tenforums.com/attachments/general-support/68028d1485964056t-cant-drag-drop-text-image-ie-11-wordpad-other-programs-drag-drop-desktop.jpg


I would actually be happy if this method works. I think that this is the easy method.
But if you can extract the wallet file (which you'll have to find, with some help) from the old computer, then another direction may be available.

Hi NeuroticFish,

I am sorry, but as I told you I am not technical at all.

Regarding the zip file, yes I did click on it only. I don't know how to unpack it.

Not clear for me 'how to copy it'. If I right click 'copy' on the folder bip39-master then what do you mean by 'copy it somewhere else'...?
Sorry, but I really struggle with this, I know that is surely very easy for you, apologies to be so unable with basic computer functiion.

Since it seems that the tools works only for Multibit HD and not for Multibit Classic, any other route for me (simple please) to use my 16 words phrase and recover my bitcoin? Like into another wallet that could recognize my 16 words phrase?

Or any other easy option?

Thank you again so much for your help.

Nicky

This is a problem. And only now I understand where it comes from.
You didn't unpack the zip file, you just clicked into it.

After clicking into, there's a folder bip39-master. Please copy it somewhere else so it gets unpacked.
Then you'll have to start over, but from the new index.html after copying.
I have high hopes that now the web page will look like in my images.


As I told BlackHatCoiner, the seed cannot work with Multibit Classic, only with Multibit HD.
I think that this may be one of the reasons the second install didn't work out.

Hi NeuroticFish,

Thank you so much for all of this.

I have tried to follow you onscreen steps and guidance.

Yes, it looks differently, but I have located the Derivation Path section.
However, I cannot get 'Multibit' under the drop down arrow in the 'client' section.

Also, I do not have Multibit HD but Multibit classic. I do not if this matter or no.

Do I need to press enter or tick something once I have written my 16 words as previously? Because I should be like you able to select 'multibit' in the client section, but I cannot: it doesn't move...

Thank you
Nicky

I'm a bit surprised on the "slightly different" part, but I hope that no orange color means that we are on the good track. Please don't paste the seed or the private keys. (meaning be very careful with that you post publicly).
Next steps, see the red squares.
For derivation path please try with m/0'/0, get the first address (bottom red square) copy/paste-it into https://chain.so (I switched to an easier website)
If no funds nor transactions found, try with m/0'/1.







^^ here you can see if you have funds or transactions.

Regarding 16 words, I can confirm that I have indeed the 16 words phassphrase.

When I got help for the setting of my wallet Multibit Classic in 2014 with the tech guy in the Vap cafe in London Shoreditch, he strongly insisted that all of us taking time to write carefully the 16 words that was generated and to keep them in a piece of paper safely.

He explained that this was for us to recover the bitcoin in case we loose the wallet, or the computer or whatever.

I have kept this piece of paper with my 16 words seed (as I believe you call that). That's why I am trying to recover my bitcoin with them.

NB. I am a woman.

Thank you for all your help out there... I hope I can recover my bitcoin.

I am quite desperate. I lost my job and I am currently ill with a chronic condition, so recovering my bitcoin would be amazing to me.

Thank you for your kind help and support.

Nicky