Topic: Cleaning up the house in Bitcoin/ Altcoin/ Gambling Discussion boards - page 2. (Read 1190 times)

True.
But if we set the rule that not only 1 but more users need to approve the post,
then it should be much harder for them to do it.
For example 5 or 10 or more users need to approve the post, or it will self-delete in X amount of time.

Sure, if theymos wished too. Although, the issues with that is they're pretty much doing what a moderators responsibility is, and this could easily be abused via higher ranked accounts allowing their alternative accounts to get passed the system by approving them. There's also the issue of higher ranked members themselves not posting the greatest quality content, and allowing rubbish to get through effectively making the shadow ban ineffective. Higher ranked users aren't necessarily good at finding and spotting good quality content, and knowing the forum rules.

The best way would be to have the highest quality users, and those that are familiar with forum rules too approving posts, because that's when it would be most effective. Then again, they might post good quality content, but might not be familiar with the forum guidelines. If this was ever implemented then it would make sense to have a bigger moderating team who are familiar with the rules so that its as effective as possible. As a moderator you sort of learn the ins, and outs of the guidelines more than a normal user. I'm still learning a great deal.

Thanks!

As for shadow-ban, is there no way to include regular higher ranked users for that work, and not merit sources?

Go to your profile, and there's a setting that can be clicked called "Ignore Board Preferences". Here you can check what sections you want to ignore.

This link should work for you: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/dkbit98-1410401

If not then just follow the instructions.

Thanks.
I know I can ignore posts or users, but how to ignore (or hide) for example Arabic language board
and not all local languages ?

Depends on the specific thread I guess. I don't deal with a lot of reports within these sections so I can't really pitch in without seeing them myself. Although, if they're links to articles then generally press is more suited. However, if they're just copying the articles text, and pasting a link this could potentially be deemed a duplicate if there's other threads like it. I would favour higher quality threads over ones with just links, and no input or anything.

If they're obviously advertising, and its of low quality it might just be outright removed.

You can ignore whole sections within your settings on the forum. Also, the shadow ban system that you're implying here has been discussed to death, and the only logical way this would work is if there was more moderators or merit sources were allowed to approve threads. However, this really isn't a merit sources job, and I'm not sure if merit sources would be willing to go through queues of threads. Generally, a lot of merit sources are just browsing the forum like they would, and meriting as they come across good quality posts.

I agree that this should be moved to Press board, news or maybe Politics and Economics for some specific non-promotional.

It would also help if member could ignore whole boards, like some local languages, some altcoin boards...
That would make it look cleaner, even if in reality it would be the same.

Maybe also some kind of system where certain amount of higher ranked users need to approve post before it is released.
Before that post would be not visible for others. Some kind of temp pre-post state.
Now active users need to check them before approval, not only moderators/admins/staff

We have several different users reporting a large amount in several sections of the forum, however when compared to the amount of spammers its a drop in the ocean. Although, I definitely for one appreciate everyone that reports! It makes our moderating responsibilities easier. If users want to be more efficient when they report within my sections, then they can report with "Spam post; More in the thread" instead of reporting all the individual spam posts. I'm willing to go through the entire thread with any posts that are reported like this. Although some other moderators might prefer individual reports I don't really mind either way, unless it's bumps then the oldest bump can be reported, and state there's multiple old bumps within the thread that need deleting.

We apparently have a few users now automating reports, and reporting high amounts of posts. These automated posts seem to be decent enough with only a few bad reports mixed in. I can only speak about my sections as that's the only reports I see, and those reported that are newbies. I've personally seen a rise in reports the last few weeks compared to a few months ago where we had a little more of a dry spell in reporting. Must be the summer holidays everyone took.

Mitchell does have a bot which automatically finds certain spam posts that they have inputted in their script. There are also users automating reporting.

I've long given up on the altcoin-boards, but Bitcoin Discussion should be much cleaner.
I notice a lot of people who mainly post links to bitcoinist.com or cointelegraph.com. No doubt they're being paid for it.
Shouldn't this be restricted to the Press board? They basically just copy some text, add a link, and create a topic.
Or, as an alternative, these links could be restricted to one big topic only. There's no need to create many different threads only to promote a certain website.

How about the Spambusters Club?
I have my own report count but it's nothing compared to these guys.


None that I know of. I also don't think there will ever be one since determining whether a post or comment is spam is also subjective in some cases.

I don't know exactly where they come from, but likely due to long-lasting complaints on terrible spamming and garbag posting in those following boards:

• Bitcoin Discussion
• Altcoin Discussion
• Gambling Discussion

People usually visit threads in those boards, and instantly start writing, without few seconds to read last post(s) before they write. They probably only read thread title, and jump directly to make posts.

With supports from recently re-raised questions by those threads:
Limit signature campaigns
Spam sections
There is likely a cleaning-up wave in those boards. Heavens for spammers have been narrowed down dramatically.

Questions:
- Are there people manually report and help to clean up those boards?
- Are there bots recently activated to find spam- / garbage-posts, and help bot owners to report more productively (like what we saw with plagiarism)?


Requests:
- If someone can retrieve data on how many posts /threads deleted in those boards last week, and figure for a few previous weeks, please help
- I have an assumption on the same cleaning-up wave happens in Politics & Society / Trading Discussion / Economics boards, so if you can get same figures for those boards, please help.
List of other requested boards:

• Politics & Society
• Trading Discussion
• Economics
• Speculation

Posters can do it by avoid pyramid quotes or nested quotes. They can say making good on-topic posts is difficult, I don't know what I should say about that but spending a very few seconds to delete unused parts in quotes is not difficult. Posters should do that, at least.

By the way, please read my thread, if you are spammers/ garbage-posters.
Since 2018, what did you contribute to prevent signature ads removed globally?
CopperMembership ~ real Member rank in campaigns - Is it fair ? (this one, likely reduce positive net-effects of merit system)