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sr. member
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October 17, 2012, 03:32:05 PM
#26
These are our emails. Bold is clipse.

28 Aug

to Clipse
Hi,

Can you please pay out the money owing to the address below?

miner: psilan

14PbrZ33cNnQymBpWvrjmomyyDqPdKT1wu

Investing in that ponzi was not something I condoned and was not aware of.
It is not a huge amount, but it pays my power bill. I think it is fair you pay this out.

Thanks

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29 Aug

to Clipse
Hi again,

No news on this?

Thanks,

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29 Aug

to me
Heya

As I stated in my last post, everyone is asking for payouts which I simply cant make at this point.

I need to follow the process outlined in my post, thats the only way I can pay everyone at the same time without picking favourites which will just cause additional pressure from everyone asking why X got paid and not them.

Im sorry that it has come to this, I tried to explain the situation as best as possible and I understand you will be pissed off at me rightfully so but until this is resolved according the the steps in my posts I will just have to eat up all the hatemail / frustration mail I receive in the meantime. Sad

Regards


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29 Aug

to Clipse
Hi,

I'm just going by your last email to me;

"Well at next cycle you get full interest and zero fees so I would guess thats what you would prefer so will take note to send the funds to you then."

This is what I thought was happening, and it is outside of this new policy you have created. I stopped mining quite a while ago.

Thanks,

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29 Aug

to me
Hi

Im sorry for the confusing caused by that email, I send that out before I heard the crappy news from BTCST and only after that I made the new plans to get everyone coins back.

It seems overlapping but you can check that I send you the email on the 17th well before pirate suddenly shutdown BTCST leaving me with an empty bag as it is.

Again I know this sucks and I lost alot of not all credibility during this but for what its worth Im trying to redeem myself through this mess with the repayment plan stated and I simply cant do anything else/better about the situation.

Regards


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29 Aug

to Clipse
Hi,

No offence but your plans look so shady. Paying miners 130% to pay back other miners...
Also having admin power to lock your own threads to avoid bad press.

I think this is extremely unfair and you are going back on your word.

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29 Aug

to me
Hi

Please read my whole post and explaination, I am not having miners mine so I can use their earnings to pay back other miners.

Locking the thread is to keep myself sane, miners who have issues can contact me via email and everyone so far have been pretty calm over this and understanding which I appreciate.

Im offering 130% since thats the price i would get on the mined contracts once they mature (finished mining) and if I lose miners/the pool right now then I cant finish the contracts and everyone would either lose out or get paid over a much longer period.

I am genuinely doing the best I can in this situation and unlocking the thread will have no positive outcomes in this situation since there is more than enough people hanging around just to thread crap any bad situation.

Regards

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29 Aug

to Clipse
I did read the whole post, that is why I emailed you. The post goes back on our agreement.
I honestly thought you would be a man/woman of your word.

I'm sure all the other miners didn't have this same agreement.

Thanks,

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14 Oct (4 days ago)

to Clipse
Hi there,

I was expecting payment. Wondering what the hold-up is.

Thanks,
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October 17, 2012, 09:57:19 AM
#25
I lost approximately 35 btc on bonuspool
legendary
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October 16, 2012, 10:28:14 PM
#24
He owes me around 50, and I'm pretty sure I think I recall him at some point saying he uses his own methods and not pirate for investments.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1040878

Yea, this guy needs a scammer tag for that alone.

For what? Lying that he has no funds in pirate or that he said he would not disclose his investment strategy.  He should have gotten a scammer tag when he claimed he won't disclose his investment strategies, at least in people's minds.
It's not just investment miners though, Clipse has also run on off with the funds of those pool users who haven't agreed to be part of an investment scheme.
hero member
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October 16, 2012, 10:22:34 PM
#23
He owes me around 50, and I'm pretty sure I think I recall him at some point saying he uses his own methods and not pirate for investments.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1040878

Yea, this guy needs a scammer tag for that alone.

For what? Lying that he has no funds in pirate or that he said he would not disclose his investment strategy.  He should have gotten a scammer tag when he claimed he won't disclose his investment strategies, at least in people's minds.
full member
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October 16, 2012, 09:07:34 PM
#22
Clipse owes me 173.7156706 plus interest as described in Clipse's posts below.



https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1034434
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NEW CHANGES STARTING WEDNESDAY 18 JULY 00:00:00 :

I have done everything I can to keep the extra incentives rolling month after month however my personal dealings with BTC sales have dropped down to near zero and the markups I can get from my regular clients have decreased alot since the BTC price increase which in turn is causing me to run Bonuspool with the current payout at a loss for over a month now. I wasnt concerned about this since I had a decent buffer and figured I would let it ride and see if there is a change in market conditions but unfortunately not much changed except me starting to payout continously from my own funds.

From July 18 I will start to take the first steps towards the future of Bonuspool which would atleast ensure its survival at better rates than any other PPS pool. The following changes will be handled manually until the end of August when the new website will be up and fully functional and so the pool will move out of Beta and ready for direct public signups.

All users who remain between now and public Signup(1 September) will be given extra perks such as access to an additional Jackpot Fund where only they will get extra rewards from as a way for me to say thanks for their ongoing support through the changes.

I will not be flagging users for hashrate variances any more with the new changes even though I would obviously appreciate it if users would remain as dedicated as they have been over the last 6 months. There is one caveat, users will still need to inform me if they wish to increase their hashrate so that I can make the neccesary poolwide adjustments in case any is needed at the time so when you signup please provide me with an accurate maximum hashrate.

From the Wednesday July 18 payment cycle onwards there will be 2 types of accounts on the pool. Feel free to PM/email me if the below details doesnt explain the setup well enough for you, I am sure some users will find it confusing at first so please contact me with whatever questions you may have.

Regular Miners:

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This would be ideal for users who doesnt want funds held up for a week at a time however they will get penalised with a fee if they request withdrawals before payment date, even with the fee this offer is the best PPS with allmost-immediate payout option available and even more value is added with the Weekly Jackpot draw which can earn most miners 2x their regular weekly earnings if they are the lucky winner.

Earnings:

101% PPS rate (extra 1% effectively means we pay for stales since the avg user had <1% stales over the last month)
Payment cycle Wednesday 00:00:00 UCT+2 - Tuesday 23:59:59 UCT+2

Requesting withdrawal before end of Payment cycle(Full balance only):

Next day withdrawal (1% fee) :
Request funds between 00:00:01 UCT+2 - 14:59:59 UCT+2 and I will process the withdrawal before the next day 23:59:59 UCT+2 , if I am unable/unavailable and the payment isnt made in time then I will process it at 0% fee.

* Withdrawal will be processed for the full balance in your account at the time you send the request, if more BTC were mined after requesting withdrawal that will remain in your account.

Send email from your signup email with the following details:

Subject: Withdrawal [Full balance]
Content: pool miner name


Investment Miners:

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This is meant for users who doesnt need access to their funds regulary and would prefer to let balance grow with interest over a maximum of 4 payment cycles which would yield an extra 11% interest on their investment.

For those of you with a payment due on 18 July, I will use their current balance as the first investment balance payable on 25 July . This first investment will earn users much more than the following investments considering the balance came from 110% PPS.

Investment Earnings:

I used to sell newly minted blocks at a premium and right now I would be looking for the same liquidity but for use in the market on various projects I am working on. I still sell some small volume of new blocks but the request for such a service have died down tremendously with the rise of BTC price.

* Everyone with a balance due for payment on Wednesday July 18 will have their account marked to invest automaticly, please email me from your signup email to the email you received your pool details from before Wednesday if you dont wish to invest and I will pay your balance at normal payment time.

Rates:

All investments may only stack for 4 payment schedules, interest is calculated seperately on investment balance per payment cycle. Non compounded investment.

Payment cycle periods and interest :

For Cycle 1 - 2%
For Cycle 2 - 2.5%
For Cycle 3 - 3%
For Cycle 4 - 3.5%

Example: User invest their current payment due for 18 July for 4 weeks, user balance on initial investment is 50BTC, user earns the following:

Payment cycle 1 : 1 BTC interest on 50BTC
Payment cycle 2 : 1.25BTC interest on 50BTC
payment cycle 3 : 1.5BTC interest on 50BTC
Payment cycle 4 : 1.75BTC interest on 50BTC

Total interest over 4 payment cycles: 5.5BTC or 11% non-compounded interest over 4 payment cycles (roughly a month)

Each payment cycle earnings after the initial investment started will count as a seperate investment period, each investment period can only last 4 payment cycles before it is paid out in full.

* Rates may be adjusted periodicly but each investment will be honoured at the initiated investment rate. All investments are treated on a per payment cycle period thus if I need to adjust rates the user would know before the new payment cycle begin to determine if they want to extend their investment period.
* Investments will automaticly roll over up to 4 payment cycles unless Investor informs me that they want to withdraw at end of current payment cycle.
* I reserve the right to force payout of part or all the investment balance of user end of any payment cycle, the last thing I want to deal with is over-investments. I will do my best to inform the user of the forced payout that will occur.

Requesting withdrawal before end of Payment cycle(Full balance only):

Next day withdrawal for current running balance (1% fee) :
Request funds between 00:00:01 UCT+2 - 14:59:59 UCT+2 and I will process the withdrawal before the next day 23:59:59 UCT+2 , if I am unable/unavailable and the payment isnt made in time then I will process it at 0% fee.

Next day withdrawal for current investment balance (2% fee) :
Request funds between 00:00:01 UCT+2 - 14:59:59 UCT+2 and I will process the withdrawal before the next day 23:59:59 UCT+2 (Interest will be calculated at interest percentage / days invested) , , if I am unable/unavailable and the payment isnt made in time then I will process it at 0% fee.

Subject: Withdrawal [Full balance or Investment Balance] <--- please only indicate one of the 2 per email.
Content: pool miner name


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Weekly Jackpot Fund:

Jackpot runs from Wednesday 00:00:00 UCT+2 - Tuesday 23:59:59 UCT+2, paid before the end of Wednesday 23:59:59 UCT+2
Winner takes all
Will use random.org to select the winner
Prizepool: I will seed the pool each week with a starting balance of 5BTC and the prizepool will increase with total_pool_shares_for_current_cycle * 0.05 * 100% PPS rate as of payment cycle starting date.

* All email requests stated above will be handled via the new website at the end of August, the current approach is temporary and there is finally actively development now on the new website.


What does it all mean ? Well, on average miners will not earn as much as they used to over the last 6 months however they will still earn more than other PPS pools and with the added BonusPool Jackpot weekly payout everyone stands an equal chance to win the accumulated weekly jackpot.

I am quite impressed that I had the chance to keep the rates between 110-115% PPS for 6months, initially I never expected the pool to grow this big over such a small period of time and I am thankful to all the dedicated miners support so far.

I really wanted to make the changes only at the end of August but unfortunately that wouldnt be possible and its also silly to shut the pool down until the new website is ready at the end of August.

Everyone mining atm or with a payment due for July 18 will be placed on Investment Miner by default so please email me if you have no need for investing your balance and I will promptly payout the balance due before Wednesday 23:59:59 UCT+2


Some users may not be reading this thread before the changes and so I will honour the payout that is due on Wednesday 18 July as soon as they email me even after the new payment cycle begins. Users will however just receive their normal payment that is due and no additional interest since they would be willing withdrawing from investing.

Im locking this thread until Sunday so that people wont comment and move the details out of sight for other users who dont keep up with this thread every single day.

If you wish to discuss anything with me please PM or email me, Please note that from now on I will only handle payment/withdrawal requests at the email you received your signup details from so please make sure to direct those queries there and make sure you email me from your own signup email.


https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1081737
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re-Invest percentage UPDATE :

For simplicity for myself and users with a running investment I have changed it to 2.6% weekly compounded rather than the specific per week interest rates.

I have no maximum duration for investment right now unlike what I initially had in place.

Those of you nearly finish with 4 weeks will still see same gains of ~11% and if you leave it for longer you would obviously see bigger gains than the initial fixed weekly rates.

If you want to know how much your initial investment is worth, look at the end date of each unpaid as your investment starting date and then simply add 2.6% on that initial balance compounded each week, this is something that would be made easier to monitor with new website.

I am not forcing out any automatic investment payouts at any period unless users request a withdrawal as some have done, this makes it much easier for me to manage and also easier for those of you who wants to decide on your own for how long funds should be invested without being forced out.
administrator
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October 16, 2012, 08:39:57 PM
#21
Please post quotes of the specific promises he made and broke.
newbie
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full member
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October 16, 2012, 03:48:20 PM
#19
Around 5 BTC + interest (since aug 13), luckily I only sent my former office rig (1.5 GH/s) towards Bonuspool.
legendary
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BitMinter
October 16, 2012, 02:01:10 PM
#18
I guess it doesn't help that Clipse has a really bad rep on IRC for being a jerk.

Just hot air Cheesy.
newbie
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October 16, 2012, 10:03:13 AM
#17
~ 100btc...I saved screenshot from bonuspool payment page on my HDD.
Here is his ip address
http://www.iptrackeronline.com/index.php?ip_address=196.209.243.169
Perhaps this leads to Internet service providers but may be of help.
full member
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October 16, 2012, 09:46:56 AM
#16
I have about 28BTC in bonuspool... I have a screenshot somewhere on my harddrives.

Either way I'm assuming they are gone forever.
newbie
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October 16, 2012, 09:46:15 AM
#15
~40BTC and that does not include the extra percents he promised.

http://imageshack.us/a/img856/2619/20121012o.png
full member
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October 16, 2012, 09:20:49 AM
#14
Clipse owes me 19 BTC...
vip
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October 16, 2012, 01:38:04 AM
#13
Wow, Clipse was a scammer huh. Go figure!  ROTFL

I guess it doesn't help that Clipse has a really bad rep on IRC for being a jerk.
legendary
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October 15, 2012, 08:19:05 PM
#12
Another day passes and yet, no coins. C'mon Clipse, you're better than this.
sr. member
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October 14, 2012, 07:41:59 PM
#11


Owes me too, ignoring emails.
Approx 5.5 BTC + interest from 18th July.
sr. member
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October 14, 2012, 01:33:07 PM
#10
He owes me around 50, and I'm pretty sure I think I recall him at some point saying he uses his own methods and not pirate for investments.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1040878
Going down at the same time as pirate doesn't prove he was using pirate. He could have been using zeekrewards directly.

Clipse has clearly stated that funds were put into BTCST. I would quote but the thread is locked
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.707188

"After a week of negotiations surrounding this mess that I am fully to blame for, well aside from the fact BTCST should have paid out by now"

"All details above would be sorted out ahead of time if BTCST funds gets paid out before end of October and if BTCST payout ahead of time I will update the total extra interest to accomodate the earlier payouts but it will be in daily proportions on interest. "

"The plan above is to ensure that if BTCST doesnt payout before end of October or worst case never pays out then atleast I can get everyone their funds back even though it would cost me alot out of my pockets and all my contract profits in the process. "

staff
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October 14, 2012, 01:26:20 PM
#9
He owes me around 50, and I'm pretty sure I think I recall him at some point saying he uses his own methods and not pirate for investments.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1040878
Going down at the same time as pirate doesn't prove he was using pirate. He could have been using zeekrewards directly.
newbie
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October 14, 2012, 01:01:43 PM
#8
He owes me around 50, and I'm pretty sure I think I recall him at some point saying he uses his own methods and not pirate for investments.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1040878

Yea, this guy needs a scammer tag for that alone.
sr. member
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October 14, 2012, 12:43:26 PM
#7
He owes me around 50, and I'm pretty sure I think I recall him at some point saying he uses his own methods and not pirate for investments.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1040878
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