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September 12, 2017, 02:27:07 PM
The reason the cap is large is because we are aiming to fix a global issue. We can start fixing it wirth one street or with one continent, or anything in between.

Obviously the funds required to reinvent the way real estate is transacted is well north of our cap, yet our goals are ambitions enough to do just that.

I didn't yet check your math, but it is largely irrelevant.  The reason is that we have declared from the very start that we will burn any unsold tokens. Because of this anyone who participates should benifit from an anti dilutive effect.

Burning unsold tokens is frankly your only option.  You need to let the marketplace decide the value of ATLANT, and not try to artificially inflate it.  Look at the example set by Civic (yes different application, but they got their ICO right).  $33M hard cap at ICO, which created the demand to send it flying to $141M today.  If they had been greedy and gone for $100M, it's entirely possible they would be worth LESS than that today.  It suits you long term to create more demand via cheaper tokens & a smaller cap.  

The math is not irrelevant - you are asking people to purchase at an instant loss on the prospect that a $100M market cap has room to grow.

But burning the unsold tokens is a good thing and could balance out this problem.
And what's your opinion on that huge piece of bounty tokens?
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September 12, 2017, 02:18:44 PM
The reason the cap is large is because we are aiming to fix a global issue. We can start fixing it wirth one street or with one continent, or anything in between.

Obviously the funds required to reinvent the way real estate is transacted is well north of our cap, yet our goals are ambitions enough to do just that.

I didn't yet check your math, but it is largely irrelevant.  The reason is that we have declared from the very start that we will burn any unsold tokens. Because of this anyone who participates should benifit from an anti dilutive effect.

Burning unsold tokens is frankly your only option.  You need to let the marketplace decide the value of ATLANT, and not try to artificially inflate it.  Look at the example set by Civic (yes different application, but they got their ICO right).  $33M hard cap at ICO, which created the demand to send it flying to $141M today.  If they had been greedy and gone for $100M, it's entirely possible they would be worth LESS than that today.  It suits you long term to create more demand via cheaper tokens & a smaller cap. 

The math is not irrelevant - you are asking people to purchase at an instant loss on the prospect that a $100M market cap has room to grow.

But burning the unsold tokens is a good thing and could balance out this problem.
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September 12, 2017, 02:03:41 PM
Why is there a meeting with lawyers? Is the meeting really happening or is it spam?




We'll find out soon.
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September 12, 2017, 02:01:30 PM
Why is there a meeting with lawyers? Is the meeting really happening or is it spam?



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September 12, 2017, 01:58:01 PM
Dear community!


The parties have agreed to meet in the presence of lawyers on 15.09.2017.
The meeting will be held at: Moscow, Presnenskaya nab. 8, building 1, complex City of Capitals.




Respectfully,

Owners of SPACEBTC.COM
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September 12, 2017, 12:27:05 PM
As I mentioned, the math above becomes irrelevant because the cap is a variable, not a constant, given that the balance of unsold tokens is burned.

The more important thing to note is all investors benefit in the event that even 1 token is burned.
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September 12, 2017, 11:51:31 AM
The reason the cap is large is because we are aiming to fix a global issue. We can start fixing it wirth one street or with one continent, or anything in between.

Obviously the funds required to reinvent the way real estate is transacted is well north of our cap, yet our goals are ambitions enough to do just that.

I didn't yet check your math, but it is largely irrelevant.  The reason is that we have declared from the very start that we will burn any unsold tokens. Because of this anyone who participates should benifit from an anti dilutive effect.

I love how everything is considered irrelevant when he doesn't have a legitimate response. It wasn't until these types of replies that I became worried.
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September 12, 2017, 10:36:35 AM
The reason the cap is large is because we are aiming to fix a global issue. We can start fixing it wirth one street or with one continent, or anything in between.

Obviously the funds required to reinvent the way real estate is transacted is well north of our cap, yet our goals are ambitions enough to do just that.

I didn't yet check your math, but it is largely irrelevant.  The reason is that we have declared from the very start that we will burn any unsold tokens. Because of this anyone who participates should benifit from an anti dilutive effect.
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September 12, 2017, 10:17:30 AM
lets do some math:

total tokens: 150M (~$100,000,000 - which is fucking laughable for an ICO.  you should be raising 1/10th of this)
total ICO: 103.5M
total presale: 5.2M ($1.5m)
current ICO, after 5.5 days: 3.4M ($2.0m)

current MKT cap: $3.5M
current tokens: 8.6M

current token value: $3.5/8.6 = $0.40 ea.

presale token cost: $1.5/5.2 = $0.288 ea.
current ICO token cost: $2.0/3.4 = $0.588 ea.
final ICO token cost: ~$100/150 = $0.67

do you see why nobody is investing?  you have aimed too high.  you will not raise $100m.  burn 50% of your tokens immediately (including those held for yourselves)
$100m is hard in this time even a big ICO like KICKICO still can not reach that
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September 12, 2017, 09:52:45 AM
lets do some math:

total tokens: 150M (~$100,000,000 - which is fucking laughable for an ICO.  you should be raising 1/10th of this)
total ICO: 103.5M
total presale: 5.2M ($1.5m)
current ICO, after 5.5 days: 3.4M ($2.0m)

current MKT cap: $3.5M
current tokens: 8.6M

current token value: $3.5/8.6 = $0.40 ea.

presale token cost: $1.5/5.2 = $0.288 ea.
current ICO token cost: $2.0/3.4 = $0.588 ea.
final ICO token cost: ~$100/150 = $0.67

do you see why nobody is investing?  you have aimed too high.  you will not raise $100m.  burn 50% of your tokens immediately (including those held for yourselves)
Nice digits  Cool
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September 12, 2017, 09:49:35 AM
lets do some math:

total tokens: 150M (~$100,000,000 - which is fucking laughable for an ICO.  you should be raising 1/10th of this)
total ICO: 103.5M
total presale: 5.2M ($1.5m)
current ICO, after 5.5 days: 3.4M ($2.0m)

current MKT cap: $3.5M
current tokens: 8.6M

current token value: $3.5/8.6 = $0.40 ea.

presale token cost: $1.5/5.2 = $0.288 ea.
current ICO token cost: $2.0/3.4 = $0.588 ea.
final ICO token cost: ~$100/150 = $0.67

do you see why nobody is investing?  you have aimed too high.  you will not raise $100m.  burn 50% of your tokens immediately (including those held for yourselves)
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September 12, 2017, 06:55:55 AM
More articles about us: https://vc.ru/p/atlant
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September 12, 2017, 06:35:24 AM
Are there bonuses concerning this ICO?
Sure, current investors get 19% bonus at www.atlant.io
newbie
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September 12, 2017, 06:30:07 AM
Are there bonuses concerning this ICO?
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September 12, 2017, 06:24:35 AM
Can't find information about the hard cap of Atlant... What is the size?
Please have a look at https://atlant.io/faq
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September 12, 2017, 06:19:47 AM
Can't find information about the hard cap of Atlant... What is the size?
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September 12, 2017, 05:28:11 AM
this project's ICO progress is really nice guys. i'm really like it. it's promising.
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September 12, 2017, 05:25:12 AM
I see that ico from this project is running and soon ico of the project will be closed soon I hope to the developers and the team of this project so that the prize participants for the payment not too long.
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September 12, 2017, 04:57:38 AM
Wow a lot of Newbies scamming here in this thread, I think there is no need of saying " Nice Project" " Thank you". If you like the project better invest in it. If you keep spamming it does good to the thread and moderator will ban for sure.
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