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Syke

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Quote from: AreYouCereal on June 23, 2011, 10:58:11 AM

Am I right in saying however that if after 30 days they are returned to your wallet if not released but by that time you would surely file a complaint with clearcoin and show them proof you delivered what was asked Huh

Good luck with that.

https://clearcoin.appspot.com/escrow

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Clearwing cannot, and will not, mediate any disputes arising from the use of ClearCoin.

I was too harsh in my first reply. Clearcoin is an excellent option for buyers, but only in the non-donate option. Had this transaction been using Clearcoin, all the buyers would get their coins back. Stay far away from sellers that require the donate option. Once the coins are in donation-escrow and the seller backs out, like this one did, the only way the buyer can get the coins back is to release them to the seller. That's exactly what a scamming seller wants!!!

drgr33n

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Quote from: myrkul on June 23, 2011, 01:16:08 PM

By saying "my linux box just got hacked, and now I'm going to get sued", he also pretty much said:

"I downloaded something from an untrusted source, intentionally set it to executable, and then intentionally executed it. I gave the hacker your money. Now I am going to get sued because I am an idiot."

hahaha right on the money Cheesy

myrkul

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FIAT LIBERTAS RVAT CAELVM

By saying "my linux box just got hacked, and now I'm going to get sued", he also pretty much said:

"I downloaded something from an untrusted source, intentionally set it to executable, and then intentionally executed it. I gave the hacker your money. Now I am going to get sued because I am an idiot."

XX55XX

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Honestly, Bitcoin is a cool thing to speculate on and all, but to buy graphics cards with Bitcoin? You are basically asking yourself to get scammed. At least intermediaries like Amazon or Ebay can help you, but I wouldn't dare do commerce with Bitcoin. Not yet, at any rate.

AngelusWebDesign

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What version of Linux were you using, and how did a hacker "hack" your system?

It doesn't sound very likely to me.

IE isn't available for Linux. Wink

There aren't many malware programs for Linux either. You basically have "herd immunity" from viruses just by using Linux. (For those who understand the concept "herd immunity")

Alik

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I say you put 400 BTC on red. May as well gamble n' try to double your money. Odds are great.

jaime

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División de Poderes s.XXI es Descentralización

can we place all these threats in a section called "I left the wallet on my car's front seat, and now it's gone"?
we are going to see many of these

This is not going to be the end of Bitcoin, but the start of a new era in digital security products , procedures, services... culture?

Maxxx

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Yeah dude, locking your screen isn't going to help when all I need to do is code an app that greps for the wallet and then FTPs it to my server. You can code Bitcoin Malware in under 50 lines. Exploit via 0day, browser, java, bot, whatever.

AreYouCereal

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Quote from: Syke on June 23, 2011, 12:48:11 AM

Quote from: myrkul on June 23, 2011, 12:27:15 AM

This is why they invented Clearcoin.

Clearcoin doesn't solve anything. Both buyers and sellers can scam the other using Clearcoin.

I don't see how anyone can really scam each other through it.
I've used it now once and asked the other person to donate to charity if I don't deliver so It's lose/lose.

Am I right in saying however that if after 30 days they are returned to your wallet if not released but by that time you would surely file a complaint with clearcoin and show them proof you delivered what was asked Huh

Litt

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or a helpless group of 10 people who has 35 less btcs. I hope someones got the balls to find him face to face and duke it out and maybe upload a video for viewing pleasure, but we likely won't see this happen. Not that I condone such act of course.

AtlasONo

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Oh boy another angry mob is forming.

drgr33n

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This post stinks !! But if your concerned about security use linuxcoin Wink

I keep telling people leaving your wallet on a computer online is like leaving your real wallet on the back seat of your car in plain view !! And then you bitch about it when your own mistakes caused you to loose money Cheesy

0.2b has the option to encrypt your home folder making it very hard for a hacker to get your coins even if they swipe your pc or memory stick Wink

bitv

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Quote from: d.james on June 23, 2011, 04:08:50 AM

Get a copy of Microsoft Windows, I hear they're unhackable!

OP fucked himself up telling he got hacked on Linux. He should have said "OMG i was storing my wallet.dat on my win95 pc running IE2 and for some reason i got robbed while downloading all kinds of porn screensavers all day long!!11". Though, he would have been fucked up in that case too.

d.james

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Get a copy of Microsoft Windows, I hear they're unhackable!

niemivh

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Quote from: cablepair on June 22, 2011, 08:45:26 PM

security problems are going to be the end of bitcoin.

I had almost 400 btc in my wallet on my linux box today. Someone was OBVIOUSLY watching the forums and either hacked me today or already had me hacked.

I had a very public LARGE business deal going and someone STOLE ALL OF THE BTC !!!!!

I was selling 10 XFX 6990's , I had 4 different buyers and I am completely screwed now!!!!!!

this is crazy, I really do not know what to do. i am going to get sued because some hacker scum bag

i was holding 400 btc of other peoples money and I was hacked today.

I have known this for hours but am just going public with it now. I really dont know what to do.

someone hacked my linux box and transfered out all this btc to some other accounts

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

i am ruined.

at least if you keep real money in your house and someone tries to break in and steal it you can fight them off
but these hackers are sneaky as fuck i dont know what to do im like totally freaking out right now!

WTF did you have your wallet online? Mine is only online for the duration of the transaction I'm doing and then pulled back off to thumb-drive.

If nothing else this bitcoin project will push more much better levels of security with computers, it is amazing how vulnerable all computers really are.

myrkul

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Quote from: bbit on June 23, 2011, 01:14:50 AM

"The developers forgot to implement fraud protection into this currency, and so poor individuals like myself have no recourse after being hacked. I did remember to lock my screen but the hacker probably found a way around that.

Please help us set up a charity fund for people who have been hacked. It's the only recourse or Bitcoin's name will be tarnished forever in the eyes of the media, bankers, and investors. Some of us have been out hundreds of Bitcoins, or even 20,000 in one case. He felt like killing himself. Most of you don't know how it feels to be hacked, and hopefully never will.

I have the Bitcoin addresses that the hacker stole. Maybe they could be invalidated somehow, by hardcoding a blacklist into the client code? It's possibly lulzsec who hacked my computer, and they should be cut off from the funds. I know others are also maintaining a list of addresses that the hackers stole."

What is that about ?

I'm assuming that this is a quote from the other thread? Remember what I said about him being a mildly amusing troll?

ones51

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You forget to put donation address dude.

Quote from: cablepair on June 22, 2011, 08:45:26 PM

security problems are going to be the end of bitcoin.

I had almost 400 btc in my wallet on my linux box today. Someone was OBVIOUSLY watching the forums and either hacked me today or already had me hacked.

I had a very public LARGE business deal going and someone STOLE ALL OF THE BTC !!!!!

I was selling 10 XFX 6990's , I had 4 different buyers and I am completely screwed now!!!!!!

this is crazy, I really do not know what to do. i am going to get sued because some hacker scum bag

i was holding 400 btc of other peoples money and I was hacked today.

I have known this for hours but am just going public with it now. I really dont know what to do.

someone hacked my linux box and transfered out all this btc to some other accounts

FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK FUCK

i am ruined.

at least if you keep real money in your house and someone tries to break in and steal it you can fight them off
but these hackers are sneaky as fuck i dont know what to do im like totally freaking out right now!

Clarithium

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