Topic: [CLOSED] ASICs group buy by pidobir - page 34. (Read 48154 times)

I have no answer on 1st question, because never done these too
Deposite to mtgox will take 1 hours to 3 days according to the method of deposite.

if i want to use escrow how to i use the pastebin in electrum?

Sorry i never done this before

Do you also know how long it will take if i want to wire money to mtgox and buy btc?

Lowest link is metabank. Iam interessed and maybe possible to pick the miner in person. Also think i will wait till bitfury release more information.

sadly, but you are right  
In this case, the business - the question of trust

so in another word if metabank scams the middle man we are out of luck regardless if we use escrow or not

No. In my opinion, but wait topic by escrow.
1. If you want to use escrow for 1-s service, you must sent him BTC for Asics, my fee, shipping cost + escrow fee (2%);
2. Escrow sent  BTC for ASICs to Metabanks BTC address https://metabank.ru/asic/45c5c962b9cd4625e8ad9830a5fd50fe;
3. Metabank delivers ASICS to me.
4. Escrow sent me my fee and shipping cost.
5. I sent devices to you.

interested and watching

Would the escrow funds to sent to the seller once the buyer has received the merchandise to verify that the actual unit was shipped out and received?

PS: The escrow fee is simply added to the total before being sent to the escrow address, thanks. Please do not send it to the 1NB... address.

http://pastebin.com/raw.php?i=9MzW0PuZ

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

The escrow address for pidobir's Bitfury group buy is:

16hT6S3XNfeNoN2YcGStQuUq7zUSSiXAMq

Please state and agree to the conditions (if item is received damaged, item lost with tracking, customs fee etc) beforehand.

If possible, GPG sign your agreement to prevent any discrepancies later on and please ship with tracking to prevent problems during delivery.
GPG signing is not a requirement, and any verbal exchange in the form of private messages or posts on bitcointalk.org, or email is effective as a statement of condition.

Do note that I am only responsible for the funds up to the point it is sent to Bitfury.
Any losses incurred by Bitfury's or Pidobir's failure to ship/reship will not be borne by me, but I will release the following data to aid in litigation actions.

In addition to that, I confirm the receipt of:

1) Pidobir's passport scan (but note that I do not understand Russian, and thus cannot verify it 100%)

The fine print:
This Contract is solely generated for the purpose of facilitating the transaction between the seller and the buyer, which refers to the pseudonyms used on bitcointalk.org.
The escrow holder, John, assumes and gives no liability or guarantees on the satisfaction of all parties involved, although he agrees to mediate and facilitate the deal to the fullest extent he is capable of.  On the event that any problems arises, he will release the escrow to whichever party that presents him with the most convincing proof and/or after an open discussion with others or theymos.  
The verbal acceptance by both parties (or the failure to reject) and the sending of Bitcoins to the escrow address above constitutes the acceptance of the terms and conditions stated, and the activation of this Contract.

Please understand that I am assuming the risk of holding the escrowed Bitcoins, and I am using my own time to facilitate this transaction.  
I am imposing a fixed and nonrefundable fee of 2% for this transaction, to be deducted when the funds are moved.

Thank you.

John (the escrow holder)
4 June 2013
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BIG UPDATE in a few HOURS.

I will take 5% of the total BTC, which we mine for the period.
For example. You have 1 full Asic device with 120 GH, in three days (I will pay every three days)  it will produce 14,919 btc (for actual difficulty). I will send you 14,1731 btc.
If you dont agree with 5% fee, I am ready to listen your suggestion. Maybe I'll decrease my fee for buyers, who ordering multiple devices.

every when?

Sorry to disappoint you.
The risks are high. I agree with you.
As for me, I'm interested in honest business and im ready for all checks (inspections).

This way escrow guarantees nothing.

Both Bitfury and you can scam me. No thanks, good luck.

Guys, John (John K.), accepted escrow, his fee is 2%.
Soon (2-3 hours) i will do update.

Write you answer on PM.

No 5% - it is fee, that i always will take for mining profit

Thank you for your suggestion, but i have no btc for pre-order, sorry

Wassupia 13 10.1647 1JtgnB6UC5j9gMYzLftVaCmwdPL4PrWeYB
But escrow will have to do the payment to metabank.

New folks are generally trusting... just the way of the world I guess.