Topic: [CLOSED] batch #22/23 ASICMiner USB + Blade miners - page 8. (Read 17240 times)

Correct.  All four of mine were sitting around 1.1 as well.

I'll agree that the weighting can be a bit off.  That's why I made sure to add positive feedback as well.  I wasn't trying to add a banner to his name, I just wanted to report that I lost coin, wasn't treated fairly, and lost trust with him.  I can either put that into the trust system, or I can create a dramatic thread with all of the PMs (and the last thing this forum needs is more drama).  I don't get to choose how much trust is gained/lost.  I just enter the details and the forum does the math.

What's more broken is that nobody leaves feedback for a positive transaction.  Using Canary as an example, he's shipped to *gobs* of people and yesterday he only had THREE total ratings.  He wouldn't have a banner if that weren't the case.

Received my blade.

Unlike the ones I'd bought directly from friedcat a few months ago, for some reason this one came undervolted at 1.07 V and won't run at 13 GH/s out of the box. Had to bump it up to 1.2 V.

Is mine in there

This must have been the breakdown in our communication.  The price that was listed when I sent the funds was apparently 10.25 (you'll notice that there were others who paid this before me).  I decided to buy blades and secure my spot in line, and by the time I sent the funds, the pricing had been lowered.  However, details for shipping hadn't been sorted yet.

Like Canary said -- we're trying to resolve it through PM.

You're misreading the trust system, I think.  I don't have a choice how much "rating" to give him or hit him for.  All I get to enter is how much coin I lost (for a negative post) or how much I risked (for a positive post).  I marked it with exactly what I felt that I lost.

Like Canary said, we're trying to resolve it.  He preemptively sent me the coin back and a good explanation of his side of the perception.  At this point, if he's doing what I think he's doing with the shipping, the BTC is likely his.

I have not posted every time I got my orders from Canarys' group buys but I have never had any problems with him.

Yes he sometimes responds with one liners but bottom line is I always get exactly what I paid for, in a timely manner, that for me is great customer service.

Do mistakes happen....yes in every business....does the reputation of WalMart go down to negative because there could have been a misunderstanding on one sale at some point.....NO!!!

The way I see it the Trust rating on this forum leaves a LOT to be desired and I would suggest that relying on TRUST FEEDBACK is what should be used with EXTREME CAUTION!!!

Just my 2 cents for whatever it's worth.

Thanks Canary you have helped me generate a small side income.

I don't think ratings work like that philipma1957 ? I may be wrong though.

today's USPS packages have been dropped off.
fedex is next

he wasn't cheated, he paid the price that was listed on the group buy at the time he paid for 4 blades.  that price was 10.5 per unit and this included shipping.  so he sent 42 btc. order was marked as Ok for shipping.  afterwards I kept responding to pricing changes elsewhere... finally ended up at 10.25 if I'm provided a label.  if not, I was charging .25 per to handle it... most people gave me a label. and since the order was marked as good to ship it shipped.  when I was contacted, I looked it up, and math seemed to have added up, so I was baffled... but I was able to untangle it next day and asked what was expected.  at this point there's a difference of opinion as to what I actually paid out of pocket to ship... so we're trying to resolve this.

 

 so you gave him negative 13 and the amount you feel you were cheated is .5btc  or 1 btc reduced to  .5btc .

 if you were fair since the amount in question is .5 to 1 not 13 you would go back and change it to 1 or .5 and quote my post.  Not that I am A great genius but giving him the mark you did is wrong you were not cheated that many coins.

Molex1701; 6 USB Miners; 1.98;17Zyu9Jsxmj1WRpyH8j6Vs3pQNDyuoRUZM;
tx: 1451aec7f00760e5a423dd085bcc405d206ed0d69a54ce33d20d30e1d4dff2f3

You provided me with one/two liners until you eventually blew up and said I was "bullying you".  No, you didn't refund what I asked for.  You refunded what you felt was appropriate (which is more than what others in the group buy paid if they created their own label...  which didn't even exist in the thread when I made the purchase).

...without stating exactly what I want?  I stated it so many times and in so many different ways that you eventually made fun of me for being so verbose.  I couldn't have been more clear.  Here is a quote from one of my PMs:

This basically sums up your attitude/behavior in most of your PMs, and it earned you a negative trust rating.  You took my extra coin, can't communicate, and refused to communicate.  If you're truly done with the situation, move on with it and quit telling your other customers that it was a "hit job".  If you make an inaccurate accusation toward me, I'm going to defend myself.

I've been on this forum for years, and I've witnessed plenty of fraud.  It's my duty as a buyer to report on my transactions -- both positive and negative.  Once again, if your transaction with him was smooth -- great.  Post it.  If someone does something that makes me not trust them, I'll post it as well.

Right.  A "hit job".     For a ridiculously low amount of money.  I don't stand to gain anything from smearing your name.  I'm not your competition, and my previous purchase with you was satisfactory (I even left a positive trust rating for it).  I'm not sure you know what a hit job is, or you're extremely confused.

Members should be slapped for making snap-decisions without knowing the full story.  You're welcome to leave positive feedback for your transaction (I did), and I'm welcome to leave negative feedback when a transaction makes me end up not trusting him.  He took my additional BTC overpaid and just assumed it was some sort of donation to his time, and he couldn't answer my very calm/direct questions that I asked (and ultimately cut off communication).

You completely mis-read my negative trust feedback.  I'm not petty enough to get upset over miner prices decreasing from week to week.  I'm upset because everyone else in the *same* group buy at the *same* time-frame got their product for less, and the only reason why is because I overpaid him.  He refused to make the transaction right by sending back my overpayment, and he was extremely uncooperative & defensive.

Allow me to fix your analogy:

You see a TV ad for a Big-Mac at $5.  You decide to gather up some friends and go to McDonalds.  When you get there, a Big-Mac has actually been marked down to $4.  All of your friends notice the change, but you missed it and assumed it was still $5 like the ad said.  They pay with exact change, get their product, and start eating.  You give the cashier $5, and he/she closes the register as if the transaction is complete.  When your friends all say what a great deal they got at $4, you realize what happened.  You go back to the cashier and say "wait...  where is my change?", the teller replies with "Well, you seemed to be okay with paying $5, so I'm hanging onto it.  You thought $5 was fair, so the deal is done".  After complaining a bit more, the cashier agrees to give you part of your overpayment back.  He says "I'm keeping the rest because it cost me more to make your burger than theirs (which obviously doesn't make any sense)".  After calmly asking for more explanation, the cashier gets short with you, accuses you of bullying him/her, and kicks you out of the store.


That's essentially the PMs in a nutshell.  If Canary is okay with it or if these types of one-sided responses continue, I'll gladly make the communication public.  I was dealt with unfairly, he refused to explain himself because it was too much of a bother, and he ended up getting defensive and saying that I was "bullying" him and that he refused to communicate anymore.  After that experience, I don't trust the guy, and that's what the trust system is there for.  If you have a positive experience -- cool.  Post it.  If you have a negative one where you had money taken and the person was uncooperative -- post it.

Members should be banned for abusing the trust system.

hit job by sveetsnelda: https://bitcointalksearch.org/user/sveetsnelda-26772

As long as you leave the negative box unchecked, the trust feedback will be positive.

Also don't forget to put how much BTC you risked (paid to Canary before he shipped) and a link to the post or thread where the sale happened.

Okay so I go to leave positive feeback, trust, for CanaryInTheMine.  It only has a checkmark for if the comment is negative and no way of any kind to leave a >0 number for the comment.