Topic: [CLOSED] BTC Guild - Pays TxFees+NMC, Stratum, VarDiff, Private Servers - page 372. (Read 903150 times)

OK, I see that stratum is using a new port and a different IP address now.  Is there a DNS name that that IP address resolves to?  Also are you going to use a different port and host/IP for each server location?  Are these going to be changing often?
Thanks,
Sam

Does the pool no longer automatically redirect you to the stratum servers?  CG Miner 2.8.1 says it's using LP.

no at all
Bitcoin is free - those that choose to learn and invest can be involved in Bitcoin mining
Those that choose not to can just use Bitcoin as a currency
There is more choice here than in the fiat systems - try joining in and printing your national currency - it wont work , most countries call it counterfeiting.
Graet

with respect 99.9% of the worlds population uses fiat money without ever being involved in production, transport or verification of transactions of that money in fact most don't even think about all that - as long as it works. This restricts no-one from using fiat money.

Bitcoin mining is changing a *lot* over the next few months from dedicated Bitcoin only hardware to the halving of the block reward.
GPU will be much less profitable - how many of your 99% will be purchasing single use dedicated hardware to Bitcoin mine on? If they do they should be looking t the AVALON ASIC, apparently that will be power cable and network cable and it will mine with minimal setup required.

Bitcoin "mining" and verification will continue fine - and no I am not trying to grab all the mining for myself - if there was only 1 miner on the planet Bitcoin is dead - the distributed trust model is gone and it is centralised (something it was designed not to be and something I am not interested in).

Please if you are going to discuss this keep it to reality "happens to Bitcoin if death squads come and just eliminate most of top miners" I am not sure what country you live in but that is very unlikely to happen in mine...

and really your "normal people " should not be beta testing any software let alone a digital cryptocurrency.

Bitcoin mining is open to anyone that wants to learn and try - not everyone is willing to learn or try, this is not the fault of the community or Bitcoin.

Abusing people for reponding does not strengthen your case
peace
Graet

Yeah another troll spouting his words of wisdom for the rest of us, you're just making yourself look like the idiot. Go buy a clue asshat.

No it won't, it will be financially unobtainable for the 99% you speak of unless they are willing to spend tens of thousands of dollars. In a month or so you will be either A) Using bitcoins i.e. Buy/Sell/Trade them or B) a hard core miner who has already made that investment.

Please read up on ASICs and you will understand why CPU/GPU/FPGA mining will soon be obsolete. We are here doing the heavy lifting so they don't have to. No need to get their hands dirty, or hours reading and tinkering. They can just "use the system" with the coins we have pumped into it.

You sir are clearly missing the perspective of using bitcoins vs. mining for bitcoins. These "people" your are talking about, maybe they should not be mining, maybe they should be "using" bitcoins. Have them start here: http://www.weusecoins.com

Mining is not aimed at computer illiterate people.  You do not need to mine to begin using Bitcoins, and it is not even encouraged that new people are pushed into mining.  They simply won't understand what mining is or what it does, and why running a program on their computer is generating free money (because those same people won't even begin to look at their rising utility bills).

I don't publish if you're on Stratum or not because there is no way to tell.  You can be on both at the same time.  Eventually everybody will be on Stratum as the support is rolled into more native mining software.  But only extremely invested miners (large farms/ASICs) even need to worry about it.  Those are the kinds of people that already know if they're on Stratum or not.

If you want to know if you are utilizing Stratum protocol, I would recommend that you either use the Stratum Proxy (https://github.com/slush0/stratum-mining-proxy) or get current mining software like cgminer, as it's in there. (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/official-cgminer-mining-software-thread-for-linuxwinosxmipsarmr-pi-4110-28402) GUIminer has not been updated since February. Also, if you were mining for 9 days and only have .03 to show for it, I would recommend that the money you are spending on electricity go towards purchasing bitcoins directly as it's only going to get worse for you with respect to yield. (https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Difficulty) Just trying to help you out.

I didn't know there was a limit to manual payout too.

You are not on Stratum unless you use the proxy, or a native supporting client.  The only clients with native support are poclbm and cgminer at this time.

The payout minimum will not be lowered any time soon.  If it does, there will be a fee attached to requesting such a small payout, because I will not be the one paying the transaction fee in order to send somebody a payout that is worth less than $1.

The Payout Button doesn't work?

Your miner doesn't tell you your using stratum?

Well I've never had that issue before so that's why I was surprised to see it. If it happened before the mining software did not report it. I'm using MPBM by the way. Not sure if this is a "proper miner" in your eyes or not.

Fortunately, the error you posted was actually not a bad thing.  You were not losing any work.  If that came from your miner, the miner was simply alerting you that you found a share, but it didn't match difficulty (this isn't "lost" work or anything like that).  If it was the proxy, it means the proxy was hiding real difficulty from the miner, and was not bothering to submit the lowdiff share to the pool.

You will always find shares under the target.  That's how difficulty adjustments work.  Proper miners will simply not submit shares that don't meet the target, and won't bother to put any notice that it occurred. 

hmm, actually it appears that upgrading to a newer version of the stratum mining proxy software has fixed the issue.

So not a mining software limitation.

So, a note to all of you who are using stratum make sure you use 0.9.0 or newer.

It's only an issue because you are mining on btcguild because it supports higher difficulty targets, but it is not btcguild's fault. This looks more like a problem with your mining software not respecting the difficulty target request.

What is up with this: "Share 66c3c28a (difficulty 3.46254) didn't meet difficulty 4.00000"

Update: Hmm..definitely an issue with your pool. This does not happen on Slush's pool for example.

One of the 3 Chicago servers was restarted earlier to add a Stratum pool to the Chicago DC.  The Stratum pool in Chicago will become the default pool, since our Chicago connection is significantly higher quality than the one in Dallas TX.  Chicago has had only 1 minute of downtime in 2012 which may have been outside of my switch in the DC, but I was never able to confirm due to the shortness of the outage.  Tomorrow I will be restarting the other two Chicago servers to add the proper Stratum redirection.  This should only be a minute or two of downtime at most, and will only affect people that have not yet moved to Stratum servers.

Dallas has occasional packet loss issues with the Level 3 handoff.  I will be leaving the Dallas server online, so anybody already connected there doesn't need to worry.  It just won't be the "default" Stratum pool any longer.


UPDATE:  Restart happened early.  Each server was restarted and allowed to recover before the next was taken down, so if you used multiple BTC Guild servers as backups, you should have not experienced any significant downtime.

Indeed and that is why there is another metric in cgminer now "WU" which is work utility which is the amount of diff1 shares you would have created per minute. This value should not have dropped.

ASICs will probably end up like current BFL chips, where one PC can control many ASICs.  In that case, a single cgminer instance should work great.  If you're using multiple PCs as controllers, or want to use other mining software, then slush's python proxy is probably the best bet.