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Quote from: hilariousandco on July 16, 2015, 01:51:18 AM

Quote from: EcuaMobi on July 15, 2015, 09:10:12 AM

It seems the scammer who made this request took control of the account but didn't change the password. Then about 2 hours later BTCBLOGGER changed the password and locked the scammer out:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11876162

Of course there's no way to know for sure but personally I don't think BTCBLOGGER made the loan request.

C' Mon, really? You really think that's what happened? Why don't you think he would do this when this is something he'd exactly do? He has a history of pretending to do the right thing in public but behind the scenes he's trying to rob people himself. What sort of hacker doesn't change passwords? That's the first thing you do. Anyone including the original owner can then just re log in but that person who did just happens to be btcblogger?

Well whoever took control of OP's account didn't change the password before posting this thread as shown on the seclog so OP or anyone with access to the DB could have re-taken it. The password was changed only once, after the thread was created.
The fact it wasn't changed before is definitely strange, it could be to reduce the chance of someone asking for a signed message. People still did and so the password was changed.
This could mean BTCBLOGGER is guilty (I'm going towards this option more after re-reading everything and considering the new things he wrote today which don't have much sense) but not necessarily. We'll never know as I said.
But the most important thing here is that it doesn't really matter whether it was him. We already know he -and his alt(s)- should not be trusted. Even if he's not guilty here he shouldn't be trusted as he's shown several times before.

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Quote from: subSTRATA on July 16, 2015, 05:16:20 AM

I'm going to agree with hilariousandco here; the big question for me is: why did btcblogger have the list from the cloudminr db leak in the first place? did he buy it out of kindness to help grtthegreat out with this situation? don't think so. there is zero reason to believe that btcblogger is the good guy here, and even a 10 year old would know to change the password if he managed to hack an account, especially with the knowledge that the list containing the password for that account was available to others.

List of 1k people is showed by cloudminr.io to prove that they are selling real database in which my name is in the first 50 people and grtthegreat is one of them.
That day when i opened my PC i found that my BTC-E account is hacked and there is activity on other accounts too.

Then when i was looking @ my details i found there is many forum member name so i decided to protect them.
First account in which i got a successful login was grtthegreat which is mentioned by me in my thread.
When i am changing password i saw there is a message it was from magic8ball asking for signed message so i referred him to the thread.
But still i don't have any proof to prove that i'm innocence and the culprit is outside the cage.

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I'm going to agree with hilariousandco here; the big question for me is: why did btcblogger have the list from the cloudminr db leak in the first place? did he buy it out of kindness to help grtthegreat out with this situation? don't think so. there is zero reason to believe that btcblogger is the good guy here, and even a 10 year old would know to change the password if he managed to hack an account, especially with the knowledge that the list containing the password for that account was available to others.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on July 16, 2015, 03:50:48 AM

Quote from: jambola2 on July 16, 2015, 03:38:30 AM

If he wanted to scam, why would he specifically say that he had access to the accounts.

Why? So he can be seen as a good guy doing good and not a scammer. This is what he has done several times. Why did he make out like he was trying to do a good thing in getting a scammer to return the money? So he can look good. But what he was doing behind the scenes was trying to extort and blackmail that person to send him money or he was going to go to the police. That's not an act of altruism. It was opportunistic attempt to extort money out of someone. The loan was just likely so everyone knew the account was hacked. He desperately wants his feedback removed and to look like the good guy so what better way to 'ethically' hack the account then give it back? How trustworthy of him! I don't buy it.

Quote from: BTCBLOGGER on July 16, 2015, 03:41:39 AM

I really don't want to take his name but all the things that happened in this case are pointing finger on one person.
I really don't want to take his name.

What the hell are you talking about?

If anyone have the copy of those 1k people then i can tell you his name. But you have to promise me that you will not reveal his name here on the forum.

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Quote from: jambola2 on July 16, 2015, 03:38:30 AM

If he wanted to scam, why would he specifically say that he had access to the accounts.

Why? So he can be seen as a good guy doing good and not a scammer. This is what he has done several times. Why did he make out like he was trying to do a good thing in getting a scammer to return the money? So he can look good. But what he was doing behind the scenes was trying to extort and blackmail that person to send him money or he was going to go to the police. That's not an act of altruism. It was opportunistic attempt to extort money out of someone. The loan was just likely so everyone knew the account was hacked. He desperately wants his feedback removed and to look like the good guy so what better way to 'ethically' hack the account then give it back? How trustworthy of him! I don't buy it.

Quote from: BTCBLOGGER on July 16, 2015, 03:41:39 AM

I really don't want to take his name but all the things that happened in this case are pointing finger on one person.
I really don't want to take his name.

What the hell are you talking about?

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Quote from: jambola2 on July 16, 2015, 03:38:30 AM

Quote from: hilariousandco on July 16, 2015, 01:51:18 AM

Quote from: EcuaMobi on July 15, 2015, 09:10:12 AM

It seems the scammer who made this request took control of the account but didn't change the password. Then about 2 hours later BTCBLOGGER changed the password and locked the scammer out:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11876162

Of course there's no way to know for sure but personally I don't think BTCBLOGGER made the loan request.

C' Mon, really? You really think that's what happened? Why don't you think he would do this when this is something he'd exactly do? He has a history of pretending to do the right thing in public but behind the scenes he's trying to rob people himself. What sort of hacker doesn't change passwords? That's the first thing you do. Anyone including the original owner can then just re log in but that person who did just happens to be btcblogger?

The only two things that could be assumed are altruism or extreme stupidity.
If he wanted to scam, why would he specifically say that he had access to the accounts.
I don't know, there is a chance he expected this plan to work, but its hard to comprehend that someone would ever think that.

I really don't want to take his name but all the things that happened in this case are pointing finger on one person.
I really don't want to take his name.

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Quote from: hilariousandco on July 16, 2015, 01:51:18 AM

Quote from: EcuaMobi on July 15, 2015, 09:10:12 AM

It seems the scammer who made this request took control of the account but didn't change the password. Then about 2 hours later BTCBLOGGER changed the password and locked the scammer out:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11876162

Of course there's no way to know for sure but personally I don't think BTCBLOGGER made the loan request.

C' Mon, really? You really think that's what happened? Why don't you think he would do this when this is something he'd exactly do? He has a history of pretending to do the right thing in public but behind the scenes he's trying to rob people himself. What sort of hacker doesn't change passwords? That's the first thing you do. Anyone including the original owner can then just re log in but that person who did just happens to be btcblogger?

The only two things that could be assumed are altruism or extreme stupidity.
If he wanted to scam, why would he specifically say that he had access to the accounts.
I don't know, there is a chance he expected this plan to work, but its hard to comprehend that someone would ever think that.

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Quote from: EcuaMobi on July 15, 2015, 09:10:12 AM

It seems the scammer who made this request took control of the account but didn't change the password. Then about 2 hours later BTCBLOGGER changed the password and locked the scammer out:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11876162

Of course there's no way to know for sure but personally I don't think BTCBLOGGER made the loan request.

C' Mon, really? You really think that's what happened? Why don't you think he would do this when this is something he'd exactly do? He has a history of pretending to do the right thing in public but behind the scenes he's trying to rob people himself. What sort of hacker doesn't change passwords? That's the first thing you do. Anyone including the original owner can then just re log in but that person who did just happens to be btcblogger?

Quote from: grtthegreat on July 15, 2015, 09:11:33 AM

From what I'm assuming happened was that the hacker who took the passwords from the cloudminr.io leak, used the account to post the loan request, and perhaps didn't change the password, then BTCBLOGGER logged in and changed the password and protected it.

It is also possible that the hacker who posted the request was BTCBLOGGER himself, and then later on he might have changed the password. But I personally don't think, he would have done this because he was the one who protected the account and later on helped me to regain the control.

Why would he do it? To make out like he's the good guy when he's not. He's the exact opposite and he's done this sort of stuff before. He was pretending to be the good guy by trying to get a user to return funds he stole but what he didn't mention was he was trying to extort and blackmail that scammer himself in private using the personal info he had on him and the threat of going to the police with it. That sound like an alturistic act to you?

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Quote from: grtthegreat on July 15, 2015, 09:23:37 AM

Quote from: Hexcoin on July 15, 2015, 09:17:34 AM

It is still possible that BTCBLOGGER made the loan request and act like a hero just to get rid of his negative feedbacks and start to gain trust coz the account wont really benefit him much. Just my 2 cents

Possible because it's also a possibility!!! Roll Eyes

But, in this process, I actually lost all the positive trust of +10/+1 (or something like that), and it's now back to zero.

you can always write a PM to them with a signed message and ask for the feedback to be restored. they might refuse but it's worth the shot.

anyway gratz on getting back your account.

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Quote from: Hexcoin on July 15, 2015, 09:17:34 AM

It is still possible that BTCBLOGGER made the loan request and act like a hero just to get rid of his negative feedbacks and start to gain trust coz the account wont really benefit him much. Just my 2 cents

Possible because it's also a possibility!!! Roll Eyes

But, in this process, I actually lost all the positive trust of +10/+1 (or something like that), and it's now back to zero.

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Quote from: EcuaMobi on July 15, 2015, 09:10:12 AM

Quote from: Mr Crabs on July 15, 2015, 09:06:23 AM

Wait,I'm confused here. If BTCBLOGGER had control of the account and did so to 'protect it' doesn't that mean he made this scammy loan request? I doubt the account was hacked, then BTCBLOGGER regained it because the hacker didn't change the pass again. Can someone clarify here?

It seems the scammer who made this request took control of the account but didn't change the password. Then about 2 hours later BTCBLOGGER changed the password and locked the scammer out:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11876162

Of course there's no way to know for sure but personally I don't think BTCBLOGGER made the loan request.

It is still possible that BTCBLOGGER made the loan request and act like a hero just to get rid of his negative feedbacks and start to gain trust coz the account wont really benefit him much. Just my 2 cents

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Quote from: EcuaMobi on July 15, 2015, 09:02:55 AM

Signature verified with the address posted here. I've removed my negative feedback, I'm glad you got it back.

Thanks, EcuaMobi for the constant help throughout.

Quote from: Hexcoin on July 15, 2015, 09:06:03 AM

Congrats retrieving your account back. It will be best if you use different passwords on different accounts/sites to avoid having problems like this in the future

Thanks Hexcoin, you also had been very helpful throughout.

Quote from: Mr Crabs on July 15, 2015, 09:06:23 AM

Wait,I'm confused here. If BTCBLOGGER had control of the account and did so to 'protect it' doesn't that mean he made this scammy loan request? I doubt the account was hacked, then BTCBLOGGER regained it because the hacker didn't change the pass again. Can someone clarify here?

From what I'm assuming happened was that the hacker who took the passwords from the cloudminr.io leak, used the account to post the loan request, and perhaps didn't change the password, then BTCBLOGGER logged in and changed the password and protected it.

It is also possible that the hacker who posted the request was BTCBLOGGER himself, and then later on he might have changed the password. But I personally don't think, he would have done this because he was the one who protected the account and later on helped me to regain the control.

Although, I am not into blaming anyone for this mishap but what I stated above are all just possibilities, no one would actually ever be able to know what actually happened.

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Quote from: Mr Crabs on July 15, 2015, 09:06:23 AM

Wait,I'm confused here. If BTCBLOGGER had control of the account and did so to 'protect it' doesn't that mean he made this scammy loan request? I doubt the account was hacked, then BTCBLOGGER regained it because the hacker didn't change the pass again. Can someone clarify here?

It seems the scammer who made this request took control of the account but didn't change the password. Then about 2 hours later BTCBLOGGER changed the password and locked the scammer out:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.11876162

Of course there's no way to know for sure but personally I don't think BTCBLOGGER made the loan request.

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Wait,I'm confused here. If BTCBLOGGER had control of the account and did so to 'protect it' doesn't that mean he made this scammy loan request? I doubt the account was hacked, then BTCBLOGGER regained it because the hacker didn't change the pass again. Can someone clarify here?

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Congrats retrieving your account back. It will be best if you use different passwords on different accounts/sites to avoid having problems like this in the future

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Signature verified with the address posted here. I've removed my negative feedback, I'm glad you got it back (however you forgot to include the date).

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This is to inform you all that the account "grtthegreat" is now completely under my own control. The password he (BTCBLOGGER) sent didn't work for the first time, but then he sent the correct password, and it worked fine. Now, I am here to tell everyone that, the account is completely back under my control.

At the end, I would like to thank each and everyone who pursued the hack, and allowed me to recover my account when no admin helped me out (yes, I mean it, because I received no email from the admins even after so much of request).

I am signing the message here:

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is to inform you all that the account "grtthegreat" is now completely under my own control. Now, the account is completely back under my control.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
16774uNnPrZqYgwpY6zF3VazcH1Jc39n7J
IHkCi4Mq7cZaGBKHdfktcRuJ/z8KduPvLu2MkSLLyPUIX4WvDIuHX3fYltGetAtp4YZnkQR5u8BFPf3+MMelxXI=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

And my PGP sign here with the same message:

Code:

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA512

This is to inform you all that the account "grtthegreat" is now completely under my own control. Now, the account is completely back under my control.
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE-----
Version: Keybase OpenPGP v2.0.20
Comment: https://keybase.io/crypto

wsBcBAABCgAGBQJVpmbXAAoJEButA3z+wAI+qscH/3U8oNOTlFxK2/H7OoXRx+ml
OWMozu2PcI/TbVn1HaFrkXyeHUcZuYWzMGE3BlDIlT/nuoFEkIphd7PZUccshVaj
SxmbwcxQYfwUn3B0j7zx1noYe+pAPWQ7DMHHfdGGBPwAeMjq/jELSO7Ha5gyDc0q
sDH1I+MpbNg6wWVvDOzYImSwbpoqfKJuMvcNeL1FjwU2EN38lKDFs47Sw6k9dxo5
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PbC4dF8VIXeUV0PZEKy95EOUe1wlipAFtqSyvuUkE2yhphThQjt/dntn/PfXCCU=
=JTeO
-----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

Thanks everyone again.

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Quote from: --Encrypted-- on July 15, 2015, 06:35:48 AM

Quote from: jambola2 on July 15, 2015, 12:20:21 AM

grtthegreat, mind signing from your old account, assuming that you've regained control?
BTCBLOGGER just said that you've been given back control.

I don't think he has regained control of that account. if he had regained control he'd change his password again because BTCBLOGGER knows the current one.

I got his message today saying that password is not working so I sent him again.

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Quote from: jambola2 on July 15, 2015, 12:20:21 AM

grtthegreat, mind signing from your old account, assuming that you've regained control?
BTCBLOGGER just said that you've been given back control.

I don't think he has regained control of that account. if he had regained control he'd change his password again because BTCBLOGGER knows the current one.

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grtthegreat, mind signing from your old account, assuming that you've regained control?
BTCBLOGGER just said that you've been given back control.

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