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November 06, 2015, 04:16:39 PM
#34
IPO SALE HAS COME TO A HALT

MAJOR PURCHASE CONFIRMED. QSCO Tokens have been refunded.

More Info:

https://forum.ethereum.org/discussion/3819/ann-qusocia-social-smart-contracts-eth-1-1-qscx#latest

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November 06, 2015, 03:53:33 PM
#33
I like that it is based on Counterparty but overall there is nothing really new compared to all the other 2.0 platforms like Ethereum, Bitshares, Nxt ...

Thats why we don't consider it a "Bitcoin 3.0" platform.
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November 06, 2015, 12:47:33 PM
#32
I like that it is based on Counterparty but overall there is nothing really new compared to all the other 2.0 platforms like Ethereum, Bitshares, Nxt ...
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November 06, 2015, 08:02:59 AM
#31
1. Qusocia is a proven working system. IPO Funds will go to continued development.

Oh, it is?  I'm sorry.  My mistake for criticizing you.  Could you please point me to some functional software or a Github?  If the project is closed sourced, well surely at least one member of the team wouldn't mind providing their personal Github so we can see examples of what you and your crack squad of crypto wizards are capable of?

2. "We" refers to the Qusocia Teambase(Qbase Development Team too)

Thanks for the clarification.  I thought when you said "we", it meant you and the 1993 Chicago Bulls.  I was all like "WTF dude?  Jordan is retired and can't dunk anymore!!!  How does this help us??"

3. Imagine explaining an iPhone to someone in the 1960s. It's extremely difficult. Now try explaining Ethereum to the average joe. It's still difficult. Qusocia is much more advanced and will still confuse many at this time. We are working on new techniques to outline our goals in a simpler and easier way

It can't be harder than explaining how to run an extremely basic crowdsale to a mental defective.

4. When we say "Underground" scene we mean in Development. One of the team members decided to use "underground" which is agreed to be a red flag. Please know that when we say "Qusocia has been in the Underground" it means "Qusocia has been in development" instead.

Well, it does look like this is going to be an ETH fork.  Coincidentally, ETH has been in development for about 3 years.  Ya know, work done by the ETH team doesn't count toward "Qusocia development", correct?  It's puzzling how your team has been able to develop "a highly advanced Ethereum hybrid" for the past 3 years right along side ETH as it was being built.  I'm no programmer but it seems like a less than ideal environment for software development.

The term "hybrid" implies this is ETH crossed with.......? Something.  Can you tell us what exactly?  Is it ETH crossed with a mountain of lies, shamelessness, and incompetence?
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November 06, 2015, 06:37:04 AM
#30
BTW, who is "we"?

Hey buddy, knock it off with the FUD already.  This project is totes legit and there are clearly at least 4 members of the development team.

1. OP is in charge of responding to FUD attacks from trolls and writing a purposely vague ANN filled with buzzwords that will impress the technologically illiterate.

2. The graphic artist is in charge of creating a flashy eye catching logo and a roadmap filled with goalposts that may or may not be achieved on time, or ever, or even legitimately attempted.  99% of alt-coin roadmaps never proceed past "Step 1 - GIMME YOUR FUCKING MONEY SUCKERS!!" but I got a feeling THIS ONE will be different!

3. The programmer's job is to choose an existing POS coin with a solid codebase, make relatively minor adjustments to specifications relating to coin supply and interest rate, and fire up a fresh blockchain.  Don't worry, he promises that all the innovative stuff is at the top of his to-do list and will definitely possibly maybe or not be added in faster than you can say "Hey guys, any updates?  The dev hasn't logged into his account much since the ICO ended."

4.  Last but not least is the guy responsible for cashing out the development fund and laundering the fiat because fuck paying taxes, government is just gonna waste the money anyway.  They need every dollar for the development fund so all the magic can happen!  They are committing tax fraud for the benefit of the investors, risking federal charges, and using an act of civil disobedience to protest our corrupt government.  We should salute them, not question them.
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November 06, 2015, 06:28:39 AM
#29
UPDATE for November 6, 2015

We understand the confusion about Qusocia and it's outlined plans.
We will clarify a few things:

1. Qusocia is a proven working system. IPO Funds will go to continued development.
2. "We" refers to the Qusocia Teambase(Qbase Development Team too)
3. Imagine explaining an iPhone to someone in the 1960s. It's extremely difficult. Now try explaining Ethereum to the average joe. It's still difficult. Qusocia is much more advanced and will still confuse many at this time. We are working on new techniques to outline our goals in a simpler and easier way
4. When we say "Underground" scene we mean in Development. One of the team members decided to use "underground" which is agreed to be a red flag. Please know that when we say "Qusocia has been in the Underground" it means "Qusocia has been in development" instead.

Since Qusocia is indeed proven to be a working system, we're excited about the next few weeks. Hopefully our future announcements will cause less confusion and more interest as the team is extremely hard at work all the time.


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November 06, 2015, 04:24:55 AM
#28

here u go

Ive already read that. Its just words. Nothing else.

Stay away from these 'schemes', unless ability and competency can be demonstrated. Posting words doesn't count any more.

BTW, who is "we"?
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November 06, 2015, 04:02:11 AM
#27
-The Qusocia IPO is now a Private IPO on the Counterparty network with the ticker QSCO

-There are 5,000,000 QSCO Tokens for sale at 1 XCP Each.

-When Qusocia launches, these tokens will be able to be exchanged for 2 QSC
.

Patience...Images may not work...

Welcome to the Qusocia Announcement Discussion Forum on the Bitcointalk Forum. Qusocia is a highly advanced Cryptocurrency Platform which is the first to introduce Social Smart Contracts(SSC) and ETP Payments. Qusocia aims to be the top Platform for Social Micropayments and Decentralized Social Networking. Announcements on the Development of Qusocia are always being posted so remember to stay updated.

Qusocia is a highly advanced Cryptocurrency Platform based on what we like to call Hithereum, a highly advanced Ethereum hybrid. This puts Qusocia in the Ethereum 1.1 Category of coins(also considered the Bitcoin 2.5 or NXT 2.0 Categories) and is the very first of it's kind in history. Also considered a "Personal IoT Token" Built with the future in mind, Qusocia has been in the underground scene of Cryptocurrency for nearly 3 years. Since the technology wasn't available to create our vision in 2013, waiting around simply wasn't an option. In the meantime, we were able to finalize our ETP Model while finishing up QBase. Everything in development right now for Qusocia is truly exciting and truly revolutionary on many levels. Storage is possible since Qusocia will be the most advanced "world computer" yet, but Qusocia aims to make that storage worth something more than many had expected when it comes to the world of Cryptocurrency.

Creating a fully-fledged Social Atmosphere with both Centralized and Decentralized components is unique and delightful in many ways. Qusocia aims to decentralize your life and social networks but will do so in a series of unique propositions. Would anybody use a social network if your friends aren't using it? Of course not. We already have Facebook for our Social Networking needs, right? Correct, but the Anonymity of Blockchain technology is needed in today's society. Qusocia will be a part of numerous partnerships to gain traction and make sure everybody can have true privacy and security when it comes to their Social Networking life. We would like to call this Social Networking 2.0 Beta.

When it comes to Qusocia Education, we plan on holding multiple small events on SSC/ETP/QBase Education. Besides the multiple small events on Qusocia Education, we're planning on holding 2 Media Events in early 2016. These Media events will aim to put Qusocia in the hands of the public and give them a fantastic experience. We plan on holding each Media event at popular venues which we'll announce shortly. Qusocia Development and Planning is looking absolutely beautiful right now and we're extremely proud to finally reveal it to the World in the upcoming months.

Images may not work....patience...

The planned Qusocia App for iOS and Android will be released at the same time our Beta 2.0 client launches which is scheduled for an early 2016 release. This app will allow anyone and everyone to create their own SSC in any way they choose to do so. Besides Facebook & Twitter Integration, users who have registered on QBase will also be able to socialize with other QBase Members. More information on the App will come before launch.

Emoji-Transaction Phenomenon(ETP) Payments are one of the most exciting features in the Qusocia Atmosphere. Outside of Smart Contracts, the Qusocia Client will be able to function just like any typical Instant Messaging service but with a lot of flexibility. Sending a simple Emoji will also let you send a payment in QSC or BTC which can be disabled if the User wishes to do so. Creating a service like this makes Cryptocurrency a Social & Fun experience which is exactly what Qusocia is aiming to do. Social Micropayments via ETP is the future of Social Networking and Day-to-Day Payments.

Social Smart Contracts(SSC) are just like normal Smart Contracts but with more accessability and reliability.
Social Smart Contracts are only possible through the QBase System as Users will be able to have an experience very similar to Slack for Teams. Those that are a part of each SSC will be able to communicate with eachother in real-time. Both ETP and SSC Development is being overseen by the QBase Team.

QBase is very similar to Slack for Teams but much more advanced in many ways. QBase automatically recreates your entire Social Tree and enables you to Import your Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram friends and start an SSC with them or give them the chance to try out ETP. QBase will also include a Decentralized Marketplace which we will talk more about in the next few weeks.

As mentioned, we have 2 Media events planned to spread Qusocia awareness. These events aim to make Qusocia a viral marketing tool for those who wish to create their own Cryptocurrency startups or concepts. Each event is scheduled to feature Surprise Guests and Music Artists. Since we don't have the exact locations locked down as of yet, we will make the appropriate announcements when the time has come.

Qusocia is a Universal IoT Token built with the future in mind. Our IoT announcements will come shortly.

There are many features that cannot be discuss yet, but the Qusocia/QBase Team have established a Roadmap which is scheduled to be completely revamped by January. When the updated Roadmap comes, our goals will become much more clear and established.

Image of the current Qusocia Roadmap

Before Qusocia officially launches in Early 2016, the QSCO IPO will take place in November.
QSCO is a "Token" which is meant to Reward Investors with QSC After Launch. For example, if you buy 20 QSCO in the Crowdsale, you'll be able to exchange it for 40 QSC in Early 2016.


There will be a total of 12,000,000 QSC when Qusocia officially launches.
5,000,000 QSCO Tokens will be available through the Crowdsale. QSCO Holders will be eligible for a Bonus if they continue holding after Launch.

In the end, all 12M QSC will be distributed to QSCO Holders and to Development according to the Pie Chart in the image above(if it shows)


Stay tuned for updates!





IPO NOW LIVE as of November 5th, 2015
HOW TO INVEST IN THE QUSOCIA IPO:

-Set up a Counterwallet here: https://wallet.counterwallet.io

-SAVE your 12 word passphrase in a notepad somewhere(or write it down for extra safety)

-Head over to "Exchange" on the left side of your counterwallet.

-Go to the right where it says "Select Another Pair"

-Where it says "Token 1" type in QSCO

-You can scroll down to see the IPO and how many QSCO are left to grab.

-SAVE your Tokens for when Qusocia launches!

here u go
legendary
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November 06, 2015, 03:49:43 AM
#26
Nope.  I'm done.

Qusocia has been in the underground scene of Cryptocurrency for nearly 3 years.

Yep. I was about to highlight this quote, as a huge red flag, also.
It should be easy to point to links/references/posts/discussions etc if this is the case. It would also follow, that the OP would show the work done so far during that time.

The era of giving funds to projects that only have ideas, is finished. Show what you can achieve with WORKING systems first, and use IPO/ICO's to build on whats already been created.

I simply dont see any consistency, ability, or competency.    
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November 05, 2015, 08:52:52 PM
#25
Crying FUD won't do you any good.  There have been a thousand scam coins launched on this forum, and everyone of them has had shills or fools loudly defending them with cries of "FUD!! FUD!! FUD!!" til the bitter end.

FUD = Facts U Deny
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November 05, 2015, 06:03:07 PM
#24
The Qusocia Team created this thread and made it unmoderated for a reason of trust as well as transparency.

Feel free to click "Ignore" for all Users trying to spam nonsense.

 A Social Networking IoT Token makes perfect sense in today's world and will surely revolutionize micropayments in terms of bitcoin and all of Cryptocurrency.

Please Steer Clear of FUD and stick with us as we continue development. This is Social Networking 2.0.

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November 05, 2015, 05:38:27 PM
#23
Nope.  I'm done.

Qusocia has been in the underground scene of Cryptocurrency for nearly 3 years.

BULL. FUCKING. SHIT.

At best I suspect you are a programmer who just discovered alt coins a month ago and decided to try to get in on the action, because you are spouting what amounts to nonsensical gibberish to anyone who has actually been involved in the world of crypto-currency in some capacity for the past 3 years.  You have no clue how to run a basic crowdsale/ICO.

Last piece of advice you are getting from me.  How about you LOOK AT THE COUNTLESS EXAMPLES OF SUCCESSFUL CROWDSALES THAT HAVE BEEN DONE IN THE PAST AND COPY WHAT THEY DID?
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November 05, 2015, 05:05:24 PM
#22
Holy fuck, you are either dense or being willfully obtuse.  Let me break this down as simply as possible.

80% of 12,000,000(slightly under 10,000,000) will automatically be dispersed to QSCX Holders as soon as they transfer.

This is very simple.

1.  You will NOT receive 5 MILLION USD of funding (currently 1 XCP = $1.06).

2.  You will not be able to sell all 5 million QSCX because you will not be receiving 100% OF THE XCP IN EXISTENCE, TWICE!!!!!!!!

So, let's take a step back again.  I want to make sure I haven't lost you yet.

80% of 12,000,000(slightly under 10,000,000) will automatically be dispersed to QSCX Holders as soon as they transfer.

Now see the term in bold?  QSCX Holders

WHAT HAPPENS TO ALL THE LEFTOVER QSC WHEN 99% of the QSCX DOESN'T HAVE A HOLDER?

1. Our goal isn't to receive 5 Million USD of funding.

2. 5 Million QSCO Tokens are the tokens available for sale. We know there are only 2.6 Million XCP.

QSC will be dispersed to IPO Investors regardless of what happens. QSCO will be exchanged for QSC when it launches. Once QSC launches, QSCO(formerly QSCX) is only worth a specific amount of QSC.

For example, if funding only raised 5000 XCP, 80% of the 12 million would still be dispersed.
We do need to update the ANN as each QSCO Token isn't exactly worth 2 QSC at this point. The final amount will be determined at the end of the sale.

We used "far less than 2,000,000" as a vague example.



QSC is a completely different token than QSCO. QSCO is simply the IPO Token.

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November 05, 2015, 04:01:24 PM
#21
Development will take far less than 2,000,000.

Development will require 0 QSC.  Development requires developers and fiat to acquire said developers.

Since you seem biased against the Counterparty system

Pointing out simple facts about the XCP market makes me biased against Counterparty?

should we consider splitting the crowdfunding campaign between 2 different services? 2,500,000 QSCX available on the Counterparty network and 2,500,000 available on StartJOIN?

No, accepting 2 different currencies opens up a whole other can of worms you don't want to deal with.  I already mentioned MAID.

Just keep crowdfunding on Counterparty but accept investments in the form of BTC ONLY, AS EVERY OTHER ICO ON COUNTERPARTY HAS DONE.  SEE SJCX.

I'm not even investing anyway.  Do what you wanna do.

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November 05, 2015, 03:42:48 PM
#20
Holy fuck, you are either dense or being willfully obtuse.  Let me break this down as simply as possible.

80% of 12,000,000(slightly under 10,000,000) will automatically be dispersed to QSCX Holders as soon as they transfer.

This is very simple.

1.  You will NOT receive 5 MILLION USD of funding (currently 1 XCP = $1.06).

2.  You will not be able to sell all 5 million QSCX because you will not be receiving 100% OF THE XCP IN EXISTENCE, TWICE!!!!!!!!

So, let's take a step back again.  I want to make sure I haven't lost you yet.

80% of 12,000,000(slightly under 10,000,000) will automatically be dispersed to QSCX Holders as soon as they transfer.

Now see the term in bold?  QSCX Holders

WHAT HAPPENS TO ALL THE LEFTOVER QSC WHEN 99% of the QSCX DOESN'T HAVE A HOLDER?
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November 05, 2015, 02:56:39 PM
#19
To me, this looks a lot like this other scam: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ico-equilibria-framework-new-concept-for-digital-currencies-1174503

They changed the terms and asked to invest BEFORE the project was ready to launch. And of course: newbie account Wink

I would be very careful to invest here.

We never changed any terms. We UPDATED the ANN with the IPO information and the service of IPO Distribution. That being said, we launched the IPO slightly earlier than anticipated. We wanted to focus on Qusocia and not the IPO which is why we decided to go with XCP. We are taking requests now to see if we should split the IPO between 2 different services. Once again, we were always going to launch the IPO this month. Check the Timeline in the OP.

We can guarantee you that Qusocia surely isn't a "scam" of some sort. The team has been working hard on this for a long time now.
We do understand it's important to be cautious on these forums though. There are sadly MANY scams out there and the team is surely aware of that and avoids being incorrectly interpreted as such. We will introduce a lot of exciting things whether funding is completed or not. We might not be able to reach a massive scale if we fail to fund the project, but we can surely get a barebones version of the project no matter what in a few months.
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November 05, 2015, 02:49:22 PM
#18

-There are 5,000,000 QSCX(A16795732744712565000) Tokens for sale at 1 XCP Each.


So wait a second, you can only invest with XCP?  You can't purchase any QSCX with BTC?

Take a look at the order books for XCP at Poloniex.  I have great respect for Counterparty so no disrespect to that project but to put it bluntly, XCP liquidity is fucking non-existent.  It makes no sense to only accept XCP if this is a legitimate ICO that aims to raise a solid development fund.  HOWEVER, it makes perfect sense to only accept XCP if this is a scam and nothing more than a thinnly veiled excuse for running an XCP pump and dump.

We understand your concerns.
We were seeking a way to be able to invest with other Cryptocurrency. We looked into the NXT Monetary System as well as StartJOIN. After a lot of discussion, we've decided that the XCP System is perfect for running our IPO. We greatly apologize that this is an inconvenience for most BTC holders who can't obtain XCP. The Team did originally believe that the XCP system could also accept BTC and not just XCP. Again, we deeply apologize and promise to deliver a fantastic project after all of the confusion that may come up.

You don't have to apologize to me.  You and your team will be the ones who suffer from lack of funding if you are legitimate.

Obviously you can't accept BTC and XCP.  It has to be one or the other or else it becomes a debacle like the MAID ICO long ago.  This is why all major Counterparty ICOs to date have only accepted payment in the form of BTC and simply issued the appropriate tokens to the public BTC address that each individual investment was made from.    It works out beautifully since the Counterparty protocol piggybacks onto the BTC blockchain anyway.

It strikes me as odd that if your project is legitimate, you would choose the option that is GUARANTEED to SEVERELY limit the funding of your ICO, especially as you have already stated that you and your team looked into NXT and StartJOIN as well and therefore have no particular loyalty or alliance to the Counterparty project.  Let's even disregard liquidity for a second and point out the fact that there are only approximately 2.7 million XCP in existence yet there are 5 million QSCX for sale!  Not a chance in hell even 1% of those ever get purchased.

This shit makes absolutely zero sense.  https://i.imgur.com/KZk3nI2.png

"When Qusocia finally launches, all 12,000,000 PSC will [be] rewarded to those who participated in the QSCX Sale and to Development Funds."

Well we already know that logically a very small amount of the 5 million tokens will ever be purchased.  There isn't enough XCP to purchase it all and the only ICO that could possibly raise 5,000,000$ these days would be if Satoshi returned to launch Bitcoin 2.0.  So will your team still be keeping 2,000,000 QSC regardless?  If I (generously) estimate you sell 50,000 QSCX and your team keeps 2,000,000 QSCX, your pie chart would need to be readjusted to be 97.5% green.

This project is either a scam or your team is incompetent if you are bungling the terms of the pre-sale this badly.

We won't be keeping 2,000,000 QSC. 80% of 12,000,000(slightly under 10,000,000) will automatically be dispersed to QSCX Holders as soon as they transfer. The remaining QSC kept will be a split between Development and rewarding QSCX Holders. Development will take far less than 2,000,000. We ourselves won't be holding any QSC after we continue to roll out more plans and utilize more services. We will admit that a small amount of these funds will be going towards the Qusocia Media Events next year. This will continue to expand Qusocia and help it become a success.

Anyways, what platform would you consider we use to Crowdfund our efforts? Since you seem biased against the Counterparty system, should we consider splitting the crowdfunding campaign between 2 different services? 2,500,000 QSCX available on the Counterparty network and 2,500,000 available on StartJOIN? These are things we considered and maybe we could have rolled things out much better.

We simply did not want to confuse everyone between the QSCX Token and Qusocia itself. We will fix this confusion in due time and we apologize.
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November 05, 2015, 02:39:34 PM
#17
To me, this looks a lot like this other scam: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/ico-equilibria-framework-new-concept-for-digital-currencies-1174503

They changed the terms and asked to invest BEFORE the project was ready to launch. And of course: newbie account Wink

I would be very careful to invest here.
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November 05, 2015, 02:02:17 PM
#16
Make a bookmark here. The coin and the concept looks pretty promising. I will follow the news and probably invest some BTC.
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November 05, 2015, 01:50:47 PM
#15

-There are 5,000,000 QSCX(A16795732744712565000) Tokens for sale at 1 XCP Each.


So wait a second, you can only invest with XCP?  You can't purchase any QSCX with BTC?

Take a look at the order books for XCP at Poloniex.  I have great respect for Counterparty so no disrespect to that project but to put it bluntly, XCP liquidity is fucking non-existent.  It makes no sense to only accept XCP if this is a legitimate ICO that aims to raise a solid development fund.  HOWEVER, it makes perfect sense to only accept XCP if this is a scam and nothing more than a thinnly veiled excuse for running an XCP pump and dump.

We understand your concerns.
We were seeking a way to be able to invest with other Cryptocurrency. We looked into the NXT Monetary System as well as StartJOIN. After a lot of discussion, we've decided that the XCP System is perfect for running our IPO. We greatly apologize that this is an inconvenience for most BTC holders who can't obtain XCP. The Team did originally believe that the XCP system could also accept BTC and not just XCP. Again, we deeply apologize and promise to deliver a fantastic project after all of the confusion that may come up.

You don't have to apologize to me.  You and your team will be the ones who suffer from lack of funding if you are legitimate.

Obviously you can't accept BTC and XCP.  It has to be one or the other or else it becomes a debacle like the MAID ICO long ago.  This is why all major Counterparty ICOs to date have only accepted payment in the form of BTC and simply issued the appropriate tokens to the public BTC address that each individual investment was made from.    It works out beautifully since the Counterparty protocol piggybacks onto the BTC blockchain anyway.

It strikes me as odd that if your project is legitimate, you would choose the option that is GUARANTEED to SEVERELY limit the funding of your ICO, especially as you have already stated that you and your team looked into NXT and StartJOIN as well and therefore have no particular loyalty or alliance to the Counterparty project.  Let's even disregard liquidity for a second and point out the fact that there are only approximately 2.7 million XCP in existence yet there are 5 million QSCX for sale!  Not a chance in hell even 1% of those ever get purchased.

This shit makes absolutely zero sense.  https://i.imgur.com/KZk3nI2.png

"When Qusocia finally launches, all 12,000,000 PSC will [be] rewarded to those who participated in the QSCX Sale and to Development Funds."

Well we already know that logically a very small amount of the 5 million tokens will ever be purchased.  There isn't enough XCP to purchase it all and the only ICO that could possibly raise 5,000,000$ these days would be if Satoshi returned to launch Bitcoin 2.0.  So will your team still be keeping 2,000,000 QSC regardless?  If I (generously) estimate you sell 50,000 QSCX and your team keeps 2,000,000 QSCX, your pie chart would need to be readjusted to be 97.5% green.

This project is either a scam or your team is incompetent if you are bungling the terms of the pre-sale this badly.
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