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Topic: [Closed] Selling my two Avalon ASIC Units from Batch #2 (Read 4671 times)

sr. member
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Avalon ASIC Team
Hi, all

The Avalon says they will start shipping from April 15. And we need some time to switch my orders to buyer shipping address. So I will close my offer at 2:00 PM GMT April 12. If I will not sell till that time I will myself mine bitcoins on my Avalons  Grin

Avalon says they will not change shipping addresses.

There was a bit of drama with batch 1, where two parties wanted to change the address, then fell into disagreement.  I would make plans for Avalon to continue their "ship to original" policy.


this is correct, all reselling will happen with the unit is in the originally buyers hands, we do not facilitate nor wish to affiliate with this secondary market.
legendary
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Hi, all

The Avalon says they will start shipping from April 15. And we need some time to switch my orders to buyer shipping address. So I will close my offer at 2:00 PM GMT April 12. If I will not sell till that time I will myself mine bitcoins on my Avalons  Grin

Avalon says they will not change shipping addresses.

There was a bit of drama with batch 1, where two parties wanted to change the address, then fell into disagreement.  I would make plans for Avalon to continue their "ship to original" policy.
newbie
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Deadline, guys. 0 BTC on escrow address means that my selling post failed. There is no time left to convince Avalon to change shipping address. I will mine myself.
newbie
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If Avalon won't change the shipping address that is fine with me.     Instead you will ship it to John, he confirms working properly, and he ships to me and releases your funds.

The main reason I sell is Russian customs and Russian postal service. They slow and overloaded today.

http://indrus.in/economics/2013/04/10/postal_service_cries_for_help_as_packages_pile_up_23695.html

It will take at least one month to deliver from China to me.
legendary
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Avalon does not modify shipping addresses.

This. They forbid any change in address, especially when the reason is re-sell. They want to avoid that. Please read their FAQ.
member
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I'm waiting for BTC to hit my account via wire, Gox said it could be 2 more days based on their worst case scenario (5 bd) as soon as that hits the money will be in John's account.   

If Avalon won't change the shipping address that is fine with me.     Instead you will ship it to John, he confirms working properly, and he ships to me and releases your funds.

If there is any issue with that please let me know.

Best,
Ryan
newbie
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Still selling, deadline is coming. Still 0 BTC on John's escrow address. Price is 150 BTC per item regardless BTC/USD rate.
newbie
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We are purchasing 1, so 1 is still available. I want to make that clear so hopefully you find a second buyer.

John, thanks for replying,  escrow is the only way to do something like this, ill pm you.


You can send 150BTC to John's escrow address and I will lock 1 item for you.

Avalon does not modify shipping addresses.

How do you know? I did it already, there was only 1 order (with 2 items) and I asked them to split that order on 2 different orders with different shipping addresses and Avalon did that.

If Avalon will suddently refuse to change address - escrow funds will be return to buyer.
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I was thinking the same thing.  I would assume send to John,  John verifies the machine works as intended and then etc.   for this John needs compensation, but that appears to be the only logically secure means.

If anyone has a better idea fire away!
newbie
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Avalon does not modify shipping addresses.

Grami, what's your plan if the address cannot be changed?
legendary
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Avalon does not modify shipping addresses.
member
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We are purchasing 1, so 1 is still available. I want to make that clear so hopefully you find a second buyer.

John, thanks for replying,  escrow is the only way to do something like this, ill pm you.



newbie
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Hi, all

The Avalon says they will start shipping from April 15. And we need some time to switch my orders to buyer shipping address. So I will close my offer at 2:00 PM GMT April 12. If I will not sell till that time I will myself mine bitcoins on my Avalons  Grin
legendary
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Away on an extended break
I'll take them both.

John, you're a mod here, and acting as escrow, so you'll be the one holding my money and receiving his machine?   That's a lot of value in your hands, and while the only reason I feel comfortable even talking about this transaction is because you are involved I would need some personal details to know who I am actually dealing with here.

If that's not out of line, and the seller agrees we can move forward.

300 BTC is a fair price for 2 pre-orders for B2.   


Since the Avalon owner is also a member of this forum I'd politely hope he would verify the orders and such.

I'm only holding the deposit at the moment for his transaction, as stated above.

As per my rep here, I've been doing escrow for some time already. I'm currently holding over 2k BTC of others funds, the greatest being 1k BTC of the forum for an indefinite period of time, and others from various members here. I've lost count of how much funds that have passed through my hands so far, but a few large-sized transaction that I can make public here is a 2200 BTC TX some weeks ago (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1568855) , and multiple large-sized AM share auctions like this: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/asicminer-auction-2000-sahres-144574 . I have a thread here too: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/john-john-ks-escrow-service-previously-known-as-johnthedong-141672

I don't really keep a ledger of my escrows as it would eat up too much time to do so, but I generally escrow 2-3 transactions daily.

As for security:

So everyone's asking me how I store escrow funds - I store them in Offline Armory with the seed backed up in encrypted paper wallets in multiple places including but not limited to a bank vault and lawyer's safe.
 


As always, please do your homework before choosing an escrow (or even sending coins in general!), so feel free to do your own research and stuff before choosing to trust me or not.  Smiley
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It's late here on the easy coast but if you want to talk more specifics gami please
Pm me.   I want to get this organized and take any potential risks our of this for you and I both.

Best
Ryan
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I believe the machine is shipped from buyer to you. Once you verify its good to go. he will release the funds.  Smiley enjoy your asics
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I'll take them both.

John, you're a mod here, and acting as escrow, so you'll be the one holding my money and receiving his machine?   That's a lot of value in your hands, and while the only reason I feel comfortable even talking about this transaction is because you are involved I would need some personal details to know who I am actually dealing with here.

If that's not out of line, and the seller agrees we can move forward.

300 BTC is a fair price for 2 pre-orders for B2.   


Since the Avalon owner is also a member of this forum I'd politely hope he would verify the orders and such.
jr. member
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If anyone wants some sense of security, I can vouch that these preorders are in fact real.  I've seen the blockchain, the order info, and verified order numbers on the portal from the emails.

A few people have messaged me asking why I backed out of the deal.  The only reason is that I truly believe by the time these things arrive they will not be performing as well as the initial investment is seeking.  It's my own personal dilemma.

But this deal is very real and good luck to whoever bites.  These were $34k USD just ~ 10 days ago.  Now with current BTC rates they are ~ 57k USD.  This is another reason I backed out.  I converted a little money to BTC and it was faster ROI than the boxes.

And there you have it folks, the reason I backed out.
newbie
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I will discuss terms of buying with anybody who will send 150BTC or 300BTC to escrow address. John published his escrow address above. If you send 150BTC we will discuss buying 1 item, if you send 300BTC we will discuss buying both.
legendary
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Away on an extended break
As per Grami's request, here's the escrow contract for the deal here. This address is meant to separate serious buyers from those who are not, and a deposit is required to be placed here before contacting Grami on the terms of sale. Of course, I will return the funds upon request if the deal falls through.

Grami should be here to clarify this,

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----
Hash: SHA1

The escrow address for Grami's transaction would be:

1BVjgenLpWriPDu5Fo8oPCZYXJei4B3ho6

The fine print:
This Contract is solely generated for the purpose of facilitating the transaction between the seller and the buyer, which refers to the pseudonyms used on bitcointalk.org.
The escrow holder, John, assumes and gives no liability or guarantees on the satisfaction of all parties involved, although he agrees to mediate and facilitate the deal to the fullest extent he is capable of.  On the event that any problems arises, he will release the escrow to whichever party that presents him with the most convincing proof and/or after an open discussion with others or theymos. 
The verbal acceptance by both parties (or the failure to reject) and the sending of Bitcoins to the escrow address above constitutes the acceptance of the terms and conditions stated, and the activation of this Contract.

Please understand that I am doing this partly as a community service for members, I am assuming the risk of holding the escrowed Bitcoins, and I am using my own time to facilitate this transaction.   
If it does not represent a burden to do so, please tip me at 1NB1KFnFqnP3WSDZQrWV3pfmph5fWRyadz .

Thank you.

John (the escrow holder)
7 April 2013
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